Fracking in California

Threedee said:
Fukushima hysteria has already been discussed at length on this forum. Sorry you missed it. As for clean alternatives, perhaps you could link us to some decent research on how much progress we're making on one or more of those instead of simply suggesting that they are out there
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Oh wow, Fukushima? Man, that's the biggest load of horseshit I've heard all week.
 
Anti-Party said:
Clearly neither of you know about alternative energy or the Nuclear energy radiation dump that has contaminated the Ocean after Japan........Clearly you kids are only here to troll and not to discuss topics..

This week radiation was found off the Coast of California. Eat more fish idiots.
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Hysterical rubbish, yet another scientific illiterate to join all the others here.
 
Anti-Party said:
Here is the issue. Water in California is already in short supply. Look at where Fracking started. Oil frackers use to just pump the water back into the earth before it killed lot's of people. But since the documentary "Gasland" exposed the lubricants of fracking (the ingredients of the lubricants were deemed not able to test by a big oil Bush bill that passed. Trying not to be bias, but it's truth)

Today, the Frackers don't seem to be re-introducing the water back into the earth. And here is the result;

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/aug/11/texas-tragedy-ample-oil-no-water <---watch the link small brains.....

In response to this, you can call on god all you want. But god works through PEOPLE.
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THat's probably the single biggest issue dogging fracking in this nation is the petroleum derived waste exemption that excludes fracking return water from hazardous waste regulations.

The water issue is certainly another fracking related issue out west in which the gas companies are going to be pitted against farmers, municipalities and other industries for very limited sources of water. In fact some southwest and western lobbies are trying to lobby so that they can purchase water rights from the Mississippi basin and the great lakes basin. Those effort to date have failed I believe.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
THat's probably the single biggest issue dogging fracking in this nation is the petroleum derived waste exemption that excludes fracking return water from hazardous waste regulations.

The water issue is certainly another fracking related issue out west in which the gas companies are going to be pitted against farmers, municipalities and other industries for very limited sources of water. In fact some southwest and western lobbies are trying to lobby so that they can purchase water rights from the Mississippi basin and the great lakes basin. Those effort to date have failed I believe.
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Why can't they use sea water?
 
IWI Tavor said:
Why can't they use sea water?
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This answers that question very well.

It can be used, depending on the reservoir chemistry. Sometimes there are minerals in the reservoir rock that don't play nice with the minerals dissolved in seawater. For example the project I was recently working on in the Gulf of Mexico had a large amount of dissolved barium in the rocks, so we had to keep the sulfate levels in our fluids down around zero or barium sulfate scale would precipitate and clog up the well. We had to keep seawater out of all our fluids, which can be difficult on an offshore well.

Acid stimulation with seawater is a huge no-no because of chemical compatibility issues. Many wells are acidized at the same time they're fracked, which means you need to start with fresh water if you want to inject acid.

Aside from that, most shale gas fields are far from the ocean so there is no local source of seawater. It wouldn't make sense to truck seawater a thousand miles to the well sites.

Also, fracking doesn't actually use much water compared to agriculture. The water usage problems are very overblown by fracking opponents. Oil companies can usually drill water wells in non-potable aquifers (too deep and briny to drink) to provide all of their necessary water if the local fresh water supplies are limited. So salt water fracking is an option, but usually not very advantageous except in very dry regions or for offshore wells.
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http://www.quora.com/Hydraulic-Frac...-logistics-of-location-Is-it-a-chemical-issue
 
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