So?
FOX IS NOT BACKING TRUMPY ON SYRIA
- Thread starter evince
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So?
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Canceled
Who is "Mudock?"
Who the fuck knows, she's batshit crazy.
I blame meth.
Eagle_Eye
Well-known member
Our track record with the Kurds leaves much to be desired. Remember when they revolted against Saddam and we left the hanging?
evince
Truthmatters
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Feel free to join them as a private citizen, at you own expense.
Who is "Murdock," Desh?
evince
Truthmatters
how can you guys not know who owns the only station you trust?
Actually it goes back to WW1.........
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#AMERICAISDEAD
So what?
Do you think we should keep troops in Syria? What is your position? Or are you just interested in trying to bash President Trump?
Personally, I would pull all troops out of the middle east. What say you cunt?
The US, unlike Russia and Iran, was never invited into Syria. They swore, though, that they were only there to save Syria from the Islamic State. Recently, however, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson tipped the American hand. America has no intention of leaving Syria once the Islamic State is checkmated. The US will stay after the war is over, and the uninvited stay has to do with more than just keeping the Islamic State down. It has more to do with keeping Iran out.
Consistent with the current strategical pivot from Syria to Iran and Hezbollah, keeping American forces in Syria has more to do with kicking Iran and the Iranian ally Bashar al-Assad out of Syria than it does with keeping the Islamic State out of Syria.
But to checkmate the Ayatollah, America needs to employ its pawn, and that pawn, once again, is the Kurds. The 30,000 soldier border force the US would deploy to block Iran would be made up mostly of Kurds. But an armed Kurdish presence on the northern border with Turkey is a red line that Turkey has long warned it would not allow the Kurds to cross. So, the American decision has brought the wrath of Turkey down upon the Kurds.
As Turkey invades and bombs Afrin and the villages around it, experts on the region, like Patrick Cockburn, warn that the Kurdish villages will be "reduced to mounds of smashed masonry." As the number of dead and wounded rises, and as doctors in the region warn "of a rapidly worsening humanitarian situation," senior Kurdish politician Aldar Khalil demanded that the US"should meet their obligations toward this force that participated with them." "How can they stand by and watch?" he asked.
But this is not the first time the Kurds have asked that very question. In March of 1975, the desperate Kurds begged the CIA: "Our people’s fate in unprecedented danger. Complete destruction hanging over our head. No explanation for all this. We appeal you and US government intervene according to your promises."
The promise to which they were referring was a US promise to support the Kurds if they would provide the troops for a covert action against Saddam Hussein: if they would be the pawns in the great powers’ game.
In the 1970’s, Iran and Iraq were quarreling over a number of border disputes. In the hope of keeping the Iraqis preoccupied and busy, the Shah offered money and arms to the Kurds to fight Saddam Hussein. But the Kurds didn’t trust the Shah and made their acceptance conditional upon an American guarantee that Iran would not cut the lifeline to the Kurdish uprising.
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Betrayal of the Kurds has a long history. The Kurds were first given their own land when a small piece of what had been Turkey was given to them in 1920. They quickly lost it back to Ataturk and the Turks, and the international community abandoned them. The Kurds found themselves in the vulnerable position they are now in, scattered across Turkey, Syria, Iran and Iraq.
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https://original.antiwar.com/ted_snider/2018/02/01/america-kurds-history-pawn-game/
Consistent with the current strategical pivot from Syria to Iran and Hezbollah, keeping American forces in Syria has more to do with kicking Iran and the Iranian ally Bashar al-Assad out of Syria than it does with keeping the Islamic State out of Syria.
But to checkmate the Ayatollah, America needs to employ its pawn, and that pawn, once again, is the Kurds. The 30,000 soldier border force the US would deploy to block Iran would be made up mostly of Kurds. But an armed Kurdish presence on the northern border with Turkey is a red line that Turkey has long warned it would not allow the Kurds to cross. So, the American decision has brought the wrath of Turkey down upon the Kurds.
As Turkey invades and bombs Afrin and the villages around it, experts on the region, like Patrick Cockburn, warn that the Kurdish villages will be "reduced to mounds of smashed masonry." As the number of dead and wounded rises, and as doctors in the region warn "of a rapidly worsening humanitarian situation," senior Kurdish politician Aldar Khalil demanded that the US"should meet their obligations toward this force that participated with them." "How can they stand by and watch?" he asked.
But this is not the first time the Kurds have asked that very question. In March of 1975, the desperate Kurds begged the CIA: "Our people’s fate in unprecedented danger. Complete destruction hanging over our head. No explanation for all this. We appeal you and US government intervene according to your promises."
The promise to which they were referring was a US promise to support the Kurds if they would provide the troops for a covert action against Saddam Hussein: if they would be the pawns in the great powers’ game.
In the 1970’s, Iran and Iraq were quarreling over a number of border disputes. In the hope of keeping the Iraqis preoccupied and busy, the Shah offered money and arms to the Kurds to fight Saddam Hussein. But the Kurds didn’t trust the Shah and made their acceptance conditional upon an American guarantee that Iran would not cut the lifeline to the Kurdish uprising.
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Betrayal of the Kurds has a long history. The Kurds were first given their own land when a small piece of what had been Turkey was given to them in 1920. They quickly lost it back to Ataturk and the Turks, and the international community abandoned them. The Kurds found themselves in the vulnerable position they are now in, scattered across Turkey, Syria, Iran and Iraq.
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https://original.antiwar.com/ted_snider/2018/02/01/america-kurds-history-pawn-game/
tell it to Erdogan
The US has used and betrayed the Kurds repeaatedly.
https://original.antiwar.com/ted_snider/2018/02/01/america-kurds-history-pawn-game/
good link. Indeed we do, but we also make promises we cannot keep w/the Kurds
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Betrayal of the Kurds has a long history. The Kurds were first given their own land when a small piece of what had been Turkey was given to them in 1920. They quickly lost it back to Ataturk and the Turks, and the international community abandoned them. The Kurds found themselves in the vulnerable position they are now in, scattered across Turkey, Syria, Iran and Iraq.
From these events to the current situation in Syria runs an unbroken chain of America using and abandoning their Kurdish pawns
Old Trapper
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Probably one of Trumps other supporters, Russia, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Turkey?
Iran will take over Syria and then Lebanon..
Iran and Russia -possibly.
But what can we do about it? 2000 troops aren't going to do anything -they are not really an offensive force.
about all they can do is coordinate with 'the coalition" and keep from getting attacked
Syria is not our problem, much as I despise Iranian expansion. But there isnt a damn thing we can do about it