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OK, I've read the entire thread and have seen some jumping to conclusions from blaming Obama (crazy, just crazy) to "it's terrorism because he is a muslim (again, just crazy...I know several muslims who would never do this & I know some 'Christians' who just might). As more comes out we'll know all that we can about this fellow but until then I won't blame anyone but him personally. Time will tell & jumping to premature conclusions doesn't do a bit of good.
 
leaningright said:
OK, I've read the entire thread and have seen some jumping to conclusions from blaming Obama (crazy, just crazy) to "it's terrorism because he is a muslim (again, just crazy...I know several muslims who would never do this & I know some 'Christians' who just might). As more comes out we'll know all that we can about this fellow but until then I won't blame anyone but him personally. Time will tell & jumping to premature conclusions doesn't do a bit of good.
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You Da man!
 
leaningright said:
OK, I've read the entire thread and have seen some jumping to conclusions from blaming Obama (crazy, just crazy) to "it's terrorism because he is a muslim (again, just crazy...I know several muslims who would never do this & I know some 'Christians' who just might). As more comes out we'll know all that we can about this fellow but until then I won't blame anyone but him personally. Time will tell & jumping to premature conclusions doesn't do a bit of good.
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Good post.

I don't think Dixie really wants to re-visit his original contention on this thread. He posted it literally minutes after the news broke, and we have still only scratched the surface of what happened here the next day.
 
Onceler said:
How do you know I didn't say anything? On what basis are you citing hypocrisy?

You fail, because I have been outspoken about this on both sides. Don't assume, lest you want to look as idiotic as Dixie.
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And who said I said you didn't speak out then?

I am talking now and what I am seeing now. It is obvious to me, as has been throughout this whole thread with your comments that this isn't about being even-handed. This about your need to villify Dixie and to discredit everything he says with some moral authority you do not possess.

You fail because you want to make it seem like you're here for honest reasons.

The venom in your writing voice does not go unnoticed, so if you want to appear fair, work on that.
 
Jarod said:
Is every attack terrorism? Do you understand what terrorism is? It could be an act of insanity, or revenge or rage....

It could also be terrorism, but to insist it must be terrorism based on the above facts alone is silly and ignorant..
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The question is do you understand what terrorism is?

Definition of Terrorism under U.S. Law

the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;


ter⋅ror⋅ism
   ˈtɛr əˌrɪz əmShow Spelled Pronunciation [ter-uh-riz-uh m] Show IPA
–noun
1.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2.the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.

Was this terrorism? It could very well be.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
The question is do you understand what terrorism is?

Definition of Terrorism under U.S. Law

the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;


ter⋅ror⋅ism
   ˈtɛr əˌrɪz əmShow Spelled Pronunciation [ter-uh-riz-uh m] Show IPA
–noun
1.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2.the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.

Was this terrorism? It could very well be.
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No one is arguing that fact that it could be a possibility here...
 
usaloyal2theend said:
And who said I said you didn't speak out then?

I am talking now and what I am seeing now. It is obvious to me, as has been throughout this whole thread with your comments that this isn't about being even-handed. This about your need to villify Dixie and to discredit everything he says with some moral authority you do not possess.

You fail because you want to make it seem like you're here for honest reasons.

The venom in your writing voice does not go unnoticed, so if you want to appear fair, work on that.
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I don't care if my writing voice sounds like venom. This thread pisses me off, in a big way. I think the instant conclusion (literally, within minutes of the news) that this is somehow Obama's fault because of delays on Afghanistan, is despicable. It's shameless hackery, and worthy of nothing but 100% contempt. It's not worthy of a fair or moderate tone. It's worthy of condemnation in the strongest possible terms & tone.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
The question is do you understand what terrorism is?

Definition of Terrorism under U.S. Law

the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;


ter⋅ror⋅ism
   ˈtɛr əˌrɪz əmShow Spelled Pronunciation [ter-uh-riz-uh m] Show IPA
–noun
1.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2.the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.

Was this terrorism? It could very well be.
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:good4u:
 
Onceler said:
Low, spare me the "pc" lecture. I am not a big proponent of pc, and it usually bugs me.

But, according to Dixie, there is no way this can NOT be an act of terrorism (a designation which, for obvious reasons, the government only applies to certain actions & motivations), because the person involved has a Muslim affiliation.

I don't think there is anything else I need to say. You do the math...
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No, of course he wasn't a terrorist, he didn't look like Timothy McVeigh or listen to Rush! IF that had been the case, it would be a fucking pinhead consensus, but being he is a MUSLIM who has a history of cheerleading alQaeda... NAW, he can't possibly be a terrorist, and this can't possibly be an act of terrorism!
 
usaloyal2theend said:
Take a look at the most recent news about this Major and his internet shenanigans. Take a long hard look and you will see the military tried to keep a tight lid on this nutbar.

Now saying this is Obama's fault is out of line, but what is patently apparent is we bend over backwards to give a wide berth to Muslims and there are a good many amongst us who want to kill you, your parents, your aunts, and uncles and couldn't care less about your "feelings" thank you very much.
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Before this gets off on a "Ugly Muslim" tangent I would suggest you read up on the murders that have occurred at Fort Carson in Colorado. 3 soldiers in particular that shot and killed a fellow soldier because he defended himself successfully againt one of the three, the fact that they also shot a man putting gas in his car and did a drive by in which no one was killed. That is Damo's neck of the woods he can tell you that Soldiers at Carson are going nuts too.
 
I do think muslims should be banned from the military.
How can you expect them to murder innocent muslems.
 
Socrtease said:
Before this gets off on a "Ugly Muslim" tangent...
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Yes, because we all have to be sensitive to Muslims, they are so picked on these days and singled out for absolutely no reason at all. Not all Muslims believe in the teachings of Muhammad and believe they are destined to rule half the world, some of them are peace loving people, like that Ghandi dude!

You people are the most vapid bird-brained idiots in the whole fucking world! I am not sure how WE wound up with you, but I suspect it has a lot to do with your pansy-ass liberal European genes. You pinheads are probably all part French!

Yes, let's not let this turn into an "Ugly Muslim" thing, just because one of them murdered a dozen Americans while praising Allah, doesn't mean he was a terrorist!
 
usaloyal2theend said:
The question is do you understand what terrorism is?

Definition of Terrorism under U.S. Law

the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;


ter⋅ror⋅ism
   ˈtɛr əˌrɪz əmShow Spelled Pronunciation [ter-uh-riz-uh m] Show IPA
–noun
1.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2.the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.

Was this terrorism? It could very well be.
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except you didn't identify a subnational/clandestine group and the violence was against military personnel.
 
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