Florida smashes Daily Record for New Coronavirus Cases

Hello Concart,

Amen. He made a fool of himself by declaring victory in Trumpian manner, railing against those naysayers. Now we are at the epicenter of the outbreak. And in the next couple of weeks, the NBA will come to Orlando for the playoffs, Disney World will be re-opening, and Trump is coming for his coronation. I'm in Jax, in our county today we SMASHED the previous of high of about 400 cases. Today we had over 700. Jacksonville finally made mask wearing mandatory on Monday. Meanwhile, DeSantis continues to talk nonsense.

It is amazing masks are not required for the whole State. The whole COUNTRY, for that matter.
 
I'm saying some of the rise in cases can be attributed to increased testing. To put things in perspective, Tennessee currently has a higher infection rate than North Carolina, but it also has a substantially higher testing rate. Since the infection rate is already close between these states, it can logically be assumed that if NC increased its testing rate to match Tennessee, it would have a higher infection rate recorded.

With Florida, you can make a similar comparison between them and say... Pennsylvania. Florida has a higher infection rate than PA, but it also has a higher testing rate. So, if PA increased its testing rate to match that of Florida, it would likely have a higher infection rate recorded.

The problem with how people are often measuring the performance of each state is that they don't take into account differences in testing rates.

Maybe some, but not many. These cases are the result of bars, gyms, and other indoor businesses opening way too early. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the common characteristic of the states that are currently experiencing huge spikes. Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, North Carolina, Arizona, Texas, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi. What do they all have in common. I think you can figure that one out.
 
Hello Concart,



It is amazing masks are not required for the whole State. The whole COUNTRY, for that matter.

Amazing until you see the current occupant of the White House, and understand that his followers are a cult. Then it's easy. At this point. Here are the states with the most new cases today. In order. Florida, Georgia, Arizona, Texas, California, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi. With the exception of California and North Carolina, all have Republican Governors who are nothing but Trump sycophants. This is not a coincidence.
 
Maybe some, but not many. These cases are the result of bars, gyms, and other indoor businesses opening way too early. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the common characteristic of the states that are currently experiencing huge spikes. Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, North Carolina, Arizona, Texas, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi. What do they all have in common. I think you can figure that one out.

And the example you gave in the OP was outdoors.

There is a lot of cognitive dissonance going on right now with the media, health agencies, and the left. Just today, health experts have come out saying that the protests that happened a few weeks ago don't appear to have affected the spread of COVID.

When considering that plenty of the protesters did not wear masks or social distance, that implies that masks and social distancing aren't as vital as once believed.

Granted, there is also the possibility that these people are running cover for a political movement they favor or are afraid to criticize.

Either way, it's hard to tell people to social distance and wear masks while simultaneously saying that gatherings of hundreds and thousands of people in close proximity did not increase the spread of COVID.
 
Hello Woko Haram,

I'm saying some of the rise in cases can be attributed to increased testing. To put things in perspective, Tennessee currently has a higher infection rate than North Carolina, but it also has a substantially higher testing rate. Since the infection rate is already close between these states, it can logically be assumed that if NC increased its testing rate to match Tennessee, it would have a higher infection rate recorded.

With Florida, you can make a similar comparison between them and say... Pennsylvania. Florida has a higher infection rate than PA, but it also has a higher testing rate. So, if PA increased its testing rate to match that of Florida, it would likely have a higher infection rate recorded.

The problem with how people are often measuring the performance of each state is that they don't take into account differences in testing rates.

OK, the testing thing.

Testing does not make the pandemic worse. It makes it better because it is a valuable tool in reducing the spread.

There are a certain number of cases out there.

The more testing you have, the more cases you know about, the more cases you can do something about, at least tell the person so they know not to spread it.

If you do less testing it does not reduce the number of cases out there. All it does is makes it so you don't know about them. That makes the pandemic worse because people will be less careful if they are unaware they are carriers and could be infectious.

It is astonishing DT does not get this.

That's terrible leadership. Really, it is a lack of leadership.
 
Hello Woko Haram,



OK, the testing thing.

Testing does not make the pandemic worse. It makes it better because it is a valuable tool in reducing the spread.

There are a certain number of cases out there.

The more testing you have the more cases you know about, the more cases you can do something about, at least tell the person so they know not to spread it.

If you do less testing it does not reduce the number of cases out there. All it does is makes it so you don't know about them. That makes the pandemic worse because people will be less careful if they are unaware they are carriers and could be infectious.

It is astonishing DT does not get this.

That's terrible leadership. Really, it is a lack of leadership.

I would agree that more testing is a good thing, but again, it's hard to assess the performance of states in comparison with each other when the rates vary so much.
 
And the example you gave in the OP was outdoors.

There is a lot of cognitive dissonance going on right now with the media, health agencies, and the left. Just today, health experts have come out saying that the protests that happened a few weeks ago don't appear to have affected the spread of COVID.

When considering that plenty of the protesters did not wear masks or social distance, that implies that masks and social distancing aren't as vital as once believed.

Granted, there is also the possibility that these people are running cover for a political movement they favor or are afraid to criticize.

Either way, it's hard to tell people to social distance and wear masks while simultaneously saying that gatherings of hundreds and thousands of people in close proximity did not increase the spread of COVID.

What makes you think it was outdoors? Because they grilled food? LOL at you. It is beyond stupid to attempt to politicize this by saying 'they did it first'. The protesters, at least the ones without masks, were reckless as well. So what?
 
What makes you think it was outdoors? Because they grilled food? LOL at you. It is beyond stupid to attempt to politicize this by saying 'they did it first'. The protesters, at least the ones without masks, were reckless as well. So what?

People usually barbecue outdoors, but I'll concede that it could have been indoors. Maybe that's a California thing. Here in NC, we do it outdoors.

I was actually making the point that the media and the left have politicized this. They will heavily criticize any protesters for reopening businesses, but they will either support or ignore the same behaviors by BLM or Antifa.

Because they have politicized this, it engenders doubts regarding what is important to prevent the spread vs. what isn't. And the comments I referenced regarding the protests would actually seem to make the argument for reopening easier.
 
Majority recover. Will there be constant kvetching year-round now for all eternity for every one of the many corona viruses? Every flu season?
Every death due to cigarettes? Heart disease? Pulmonary disease? Diabetes? Obesity?
 
Majority recover. Will there be constant kvetching year-round now for all eternity for every one of the many corona viruses? Every flu season?
Every death due to cigarettes? Heart disease? Pulmonary disease? Diabetes? Obesity?

No one knows the long term effects this disease will have on their bodies.
 
Hello Woko Haram,

I would agree that more testing is a good thing, but again, it's hard to assess the performance of states in comparison with each other when the rates vary so much.

That is unimportant. Fighting the war we find ourselves in is.

Priorities.
 
Hello Woko Haram,



That is unimportant. Fighting the war we find ourselves in is.

Priorities.

I would say it is important to an extent. Being able to assess states accurately should give us an idea of which approaches work vs. which don't.

The beauty of our system is that each state sets its own rules. The hazard of this is that it does have ramifications for neighboring states, but over time, we can advise certain states to change course as needed.
 
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