Fiscal crises threaten Europe's generous benefits

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Fiscal crises threaten Europe's generous benefits

Financial crisis threatens Europe's cherished system of social welfare benefits

LONDON (AP) -- Six weeks of vacation a year. Retirement at 60. Thousands of euros for having a baby. A good university education for less than the cost of a laptop.

The system known as the European welfare state was built after World War II as the keystone of a shared prosperity meant to prevent future conflict. Generous lifelong benefits have since become a defining feature of modern Europe.

Now the welfare state -- cherished by many Europeans as an alternative to what they see as dog-eat-dog American capitalism -- is coming under its most serious threat in decades: Europe's sovereign debt crisis.

Deep budget cuts are under way across Europe. Although the first round is focused mostly on government payrolls -- the least politically explosive target -- welfare benefits are looking increasingly vulnerable.

"The current welfare state is unaffordable," said Uri Dadush, director of the Carnegie Endowment's International Economics Program. "The crisis has made the day of reckoning closer by several years in virtually all the industrial countries."

Germany will decide next month just how to cut at least 3 billion euros ($3.75 billion) from the budget. The government is suggesting for the first time that it could make fresh cuts to unemployment benefits that include giving Germans under 50 about 60 percent of their last salary before taxes for up to a year. That benefit itself emerged after cuts to an even more generous package about five years ago.

"We have to adjust our social security systems in a way that they motivate people to accept regular work and do not give counterproductive incentives," German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble told news weekly Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung on Saturday.

The uncertainty over the future of the welfare state is undermining the continent's self-image at a time when other key elements of post-war European identity are fraying.

Large-scale immigration from outside Europe is challenging the continent's assumptions about its dedication to tolerance and liberty as countries move to control individual clothing -- the Islamic veil -- in the name of freedom and equality.

Deeply wary of military conflict, many nations now find themselves nonetheless mired in Afghanistan on behalf of what was supposed to be a North Atlantic alliance, shying away from wholesale pullout while doing their utmost to keep troops from actual combat.

Demographers and economists began warning decades ago that social welfare was doomed by the aging of Europe's baby boomers. Some governments had been trimming and reforming, but now almost all are scrambling to close deficits in order to prevent a wider collapse of confidence in the euro.

"We need to change, to adapt ... for the sake of the protection of our social model," European Union Commissioner Joaquin Almunia of Spain told reporters in Stockholm Thursday.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fiscal-crises-threaten-apf-242192521.html?x=0

remind me again why many liberals want to be like europe....
 
couldn't be a better time to be a tea partier or worse time to be a liberal.
Saw this morning where cali is looking at all kinds of new taxes, luckely repubs will stomp that shit out.
 
Financial crisis threatens Europe's cherished system of social welfare benefits

LONDON (AP) -- Six weeks of vacation a year. Retirement at 60. Thousands of euros for having a baby. A good university education for less than the cost of a laptop.

I live in Europe and don't get to retire at 60 and a good university education costs a hell of a lot more than the best laptop on the market.

If i ever happened to become pregnant i wouldn't be confident of getting thousands of Euros from the government, although the media interest in a biological male having a baby (not like that woman with a beard who dropped a sprog in America last year) would likely see me catching Euros, dollars and pounds in huge butterfly net.

We don't even get 6 weeks statutory paid leave (5.6 weeks since you ask).

Anyone would think this "Europe" place is exactly the same everywhere.
 
I live in Europe and don't get to retire at 60 and a good university education costs a hell of a lot more than the best laptop on the market.

If i ever happened to become pregnant i wouldn't be confident of getting thousands of Euros from the government, although the media interest in a biological male having a baby (not like that woman with a beard who dropped a sprog in America last year) would likely see me catching Euros, dollars and pounds in huge butterfly net.

We don't even get 6 weeks statutory paid leave (5.6 weeks since you ask).

Anyone would think this "Europe" place is exactly the same everywhere.

so where are they talking about? they listed germany...france
 
they are all overtaxed socialist compared to the US. Check out France's property taxes, the owner pays and the freaking renter's pay as well.
 
so where are they talking about? they listed germany...france

I'd say it's an amalgamation of several countries individual national policies.

There are major differences between individual European states.
 
why do you think their welfare state isn't working out, whereas yours seems to be ok?

Nobody has a perfect sustainable system but some states recognise that, for example, a pension system allowing people to retire at 60 would be ok if most people died around the age of 60 (like in the good old days before television and obesity) but becomes more troublesome when people routinely live into their 70s and 80s. Anyone under 35 in the UK should be pretty clued up that they aren't going to get access to a state pension until they are closer to 70.

Unfortunately some states such as Greece and Italy have preferred to ignore minor inconveniences, such as human longevity and paying taxes.

We've all got problems, it's just that some of us are more aware than others that we're going to have to adapt our expectations.
 
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