LMAO... so tell us apple... how many troops were in Afghanistan when Obama came to office vs. how many are there now? So bombs are now ok because Obama is in office and he 'has to do something', but when troops were in Iraq it was evil for Bush to use bombs to protect the troops? Is that your stance?
It looks like we'll have to start at square one. When Afghanistan was invaded all the security forces in that country were abolished. In other words no army, no police, etc. Total anarchy. That allows any foreign power or corrupt domestic power to take over unless the allies are there to govern, supervise, keep control. The allies thought that once the government was removed the citizens would simply fall into line and adopt democracy/western ways. Oops, wrong guess as we've seen the occasional Afghan citizens that were trained by the allies end up turning their guns on the allies. Traitors in the ranks, so to say.
So, who are the traitors? Are there traitors just waiting out the time till the allies leave? Is it 10 years now? We're still told the Afghans are not ready to protect their country. Is it that they're not ready to protect their country or is it a case of them not wanting to enforce western laws? The point being when the allies leave Afghanistan may become worse than it was before they invaded. This situation was not started by Obama so he's walking the path of fighting the foreign and corrupt domestic powers that want to take over while, at the same time, trying to leave. The foreign and corrupt domestic powers know the allies (Obama) are leaving so doesn't it look better for them to keep up the fight and make it appear they drove the allies out?
LOL... it was Obama that expanded troop presence in Afghanistan. As for Iraq, he simply followed the plan put in place by Bush and the Iraqi government.
How many plans have been put in place over the years? Withdraw. Surge. Withdraw. Surge. Throw in a new President or whatever they call their leader over there. Wait a few months. Change leaders. One more surge for good luck. Change the guy in charge of the troops. Try another plan. On and on and on it goes.
Yes, Obama is following Bush's plan which just happened to be the last plan before Bush left office. It is a plan to get the troops out. Would it have been the Repub's final plan if the Repubs had won in 2008? That's the question because Bush and the Repubs had a multitude of plans over the years all supposedly to get the troops out but they never left. The plan was always changed. The point is Obama is following it. He's slowly getting the troops out just as he did in Iraq. That's the goal.
and yet Obama got us involved in Libya... that turned out well
GITMO is still open
Drones are bombing more and more
Sabers are rattling on Syria
But you ignore all this and pretend Obama is somehow different than Bush. Amusing.
Yes, he is different than Bush. How many troops are in Libya and Syria? Has major infrastructure been damaged by US bombs like what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq? Are troops in those countries rebuilding and getting blown up by IEDs?
Obama is quite different than Bush. A sign of strength is not the number of blown off arms and legs or the number of trips to the Arlington Cemetery. A sign of strength is getting bin Laden while he's abusing himself with a Playboy magazine. (I seem to recall hearing he had a collection of them.)
Look at the uproar over Benghazi. While it was a tragedy and hearings are being conducted maybe open warfare wasn't the prudent thing to do. Who are the "good guys" over there, anyway? The government? The rebels? The terrorists? The muslims who just saw the movie? Troops could have been sent in and ended up in a trap. The perpetrators could have used the embassy staff as hostages as well as the troops. Another '79 Iran? Or one more all-out war with the current shortage of troops?
While Bush was building permanent bases Obama is trying to get out. Iraq. Afghanistan. Syria. Egypt. Iran. Where will it end? Obama knows that's not the place to be and the last thing he wants is another conflict. When the US runs out of troops what do you think will be used?
Being in that area is like sitting in a bar and seeing a dozen bikers walk in and start exchanging words with a rival gang already there. It's best to just leave your beer on the table and quietly exit. You can take my word for that.
