Fifth grader creates device to prevent hot car deaths

I'm looking for a device that upon noticing a parent has forgotten their child in the car chases down the parent and kicks the shit out of them........
 
Asshole in Lunaticland posted links to a few phone apps, reminders and alarms, claiming they would be competing products, when that is not exactly so.

The product the kid is developing is a cooling device designed to mitigate the hot conditions and alerts the authorities to come to the child's aid.

Totally different product and hardly the same thing.
 
Yaya said:
I am actually surprised at the negativity in this thread. And Nomad was the least negative, another shocker.

You guys have no idea whether this will actually work, but other smarter people are investing in him and that money will better help ensure it does work and even if it doesn't, his idea could help the next inventor to create something that does work.

This a 5th grader for pete's sake. And you guys are bitching.
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He 'created' an idea, not a device. The title in the article is wrong. Whereas the idea is an interesting one...better for pets than kids, Nomad's points are valid.


All that's necessary is a notification system like the one this kid proposes, to be engaged once a temperature is hit inside the car.

But...the problem with this entire concept is that it isn't necessary. I believe the assumption is that people forget children in the back seat? I don't think that happens.


So...if you are shopping with your pet/child in the hot car, you would have to engage the system as you exit the car. In essence, you are going to engage a system that will notify authorities that you are abusing your child/pet. I don't see that happening. If this is an issue of 'forgetting' your child, then you will forget to activate the system as well.

Otherwise, it would have to be automatic, and authorities will be chasing hot, empty cars all day long.
 
Yaya said:
If you read the many sad stories of parents doing this, they had no intention of doing so. Maybe buying this device will serve as 1. a reminder and 2. a safeguard.

Most of the stories I read of are of inattentive parents. If this device by a 5th grader, saves one life, why the F are you bitching about it?
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I don't know if you can come up with a 12 volt cooling system that would be effective.

But if you can, this applies more to pets than kids.
 
As I mentioned in an earlier post, one of our local news anchors, after reporting that same story, told about how he always made a habit of taking off one shoe and putting it in the back seat near his strapped in child.

You are then forced to open the rear door to retrieve it after stepping out of your car with only one shoe on.

Ingenious idea. Effective and costs nothing.
 
Althea said:
I don't know if you can come up with a 12 volt cooling system that would be effective.

But if you can, this applies more to pets than kids.
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I was thinking maybe a compressed, canned propellant of some kind.

That stuff comes out ice cold.

Release it slowly while a small battery operated fan blows the cold towards the kid.

In the pic of the kid inventor holding the prototype, you can see a battery lead hanging off of it.
 
Yaya said:
Good lord, "intend". Really? You really the vast majority of people who leave their kids in hot cars "intend" to do so?

How can you be so cynical in a positive thread?
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Wow, you gotta work on comprehension. That was clearly saying that nobody intentionally leaves their kid in a seat. Do you not understand sarcasm?
 
Althea said:
He 'created' an idea, not a device. The title in the article is wrong. Whereas the idea is an interesting one...better for pets than kids, Nomad's points are valid.


All that's necessary is a notification system like the one this kid proposes, to be engaged once a temperature is hit inside the car.

But...the problem with this entire concept is that it isn't necessary. I believe the assumption is that people forget children in the back seat? I don't think that happens.


So...if you are shopping with your pet/child in the hot car, you would have to engage the system as you exit the car. In essence, you are going to engage a system that will notify authorities that you are abusing your child/pet. I don't see that happening. If this is an issue of 'forgetting' your child, then you will forget to activate the system as well.

Otherwise, it would have to be automatic, and authorities will be chasing hot, empty cars all day long.
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Yep. There would need to be a sensor to detect that the seat is occupied if it were to be an automatic system. If you have to activate it when exiting the vehicle, then you've already not forgotten the child. You must have to activate it when you put the kid in the seat?

Where are they getting the cool air? Compressed gas? Looks like CO2 cartridges. LOL will that really do anything to cool a car?

The only way a product like this would sell is if the government mandated it.
 
Nomad said:
As I mentioned in an earlier post, one of our local news anchors, after reporting that same story, told about how he always made a habit of taking off one shoe and putting it in the back seat near his strapped in child.

You are then forced to open the rear door to retrieve it after stepping out of your car with only one shoe on.

Ingenious idea. Effective and costs nothing.
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Yes. This supposes that the majority of cooked kid incidents were due to forgetting, when you typically see the parent come out and state that they were only in the store for a few minutes. Honestly, most parents who do this just don't want to be bothered with a cranky kid in the store.

The concept does have merit for use with pets, who are intentionally left in the car all the time. The logistics are still a long way from being perfected.

Nomad said:
I was thinking maybe a compressed, canned propellant of some kind.

That stuff comes out ice cold.

Release it slowly while a small battery operated fan blows the cold towards the kid.

In the pic of the kid inventor holding the prototype, you can see a battery lead hanging off of it.
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I assumed the wires were meant to denote a sensor system attached to the aforementioned notification device.

I can see your assumption being one of the only viable options, but it's an uphill battle to cool down any car in 90 degree (or above) weather. A more viable option would be a separate battery operated system under the hood, that drives the compressor/blower without running the engine. Of course, that's not possible with today's serpentine belts that are run by the crankshaft pulley.

tinfoil said:
Yep. There would need to be a sensor to detect that the seat is occupied if it were to be an automatic system. If you have to activate it when exiting the vehicle, then you've already not forgotten the child. You must have to activate it when you put the kid in the seat?

Where are they getting the cool air? Compressed gas? Looks like CO2 cartridges. LOL will that really do anything to cool a car?

The only way a product like this would sell is if the government mandated it.
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Yea...I'm not buying into the 'I forgot the kid was in the car' issue.
 
tinfoil said:
Where are they getting the cool air? Compressed gas? Looks like CO2 cartridges. LOL will that really do anything to cool a car?
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Althea said:
I can see your assumption being one of the only viable options, but it's an uphill battle to cool down any car in 90 degree (or above) weather.
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I'm not sure that cooling down the entire inside of the vehicle is the intent or goal, here.

I'm thinking maybe the idea is just to blow some cool air directly on the kid for a few minutes until the authorities, who were summoned by the device, arrive to rescue said kid.

Then of course, there's always the "redneck" version of auto a/c....


:awesome:
 
Nomad said:
Asshole in Lunaticland posted links to a few phone apps, reminders and alarms, claiming they would be competing products, when that is not exactly so.

The product the kid is developing is a cooling device designed to mitigate the hot conditions and alerts the authorities to come to the child's aid.

Totally different product and hardly the same thing.
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Best defense no be there
 
Yaya said:
I am actually surprised at the negativity in this thread. And Nomad was the least negative, another shocker.

You guys have no idea whether this will actually work, but other smarter people are investing in him and that money will better help ensure it does work and even if it doesn't, his idea could help the next inventor to create something that does work.

This a 5th grader for pete's sake. And you guys are bitching.
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So people who donate to gofundme are smarter? Smarter than whom?
 
The only way it would work is if you planned to leave the kid in your car, and who does that?

If it somehow sensed a person in the car, this would be amazing. But really, you have to turn it on and have it ready to go otherwise your car is going to get hot and it will release all that stuff and start telling authorities you are killing your kid... figure a way to make it part of a car seat with a baby sensor and you've sold me. Otherwise, it is useless.
 
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