Felony Insurrectionist: 8 Months In Federal Prison and $2000 Fine.

When will these trump whatabout retards understand that

1. I want these 1-6 traitors jailed and
2. I want anyone who torched a bank or looted a store also jailed.

You traitors have no argument here. Show me the rioter
who took advantage of the BLM protests and committed felonies and I'll show you a guy
I want jailed in excess of a year.


YOU HAVE NO VALID POINT. STOP USING BLM TO DEFEND YOUR TREASON
 
Dude (or Fem?) in west VA concerned about unarmed foreign invasion. LMAO

Hey I live 20 minutes from the most highly trafficked border that exists, and
I have no problem with it. People come and go every day to work, school, play,
whatever. And you sit in west VA fantasizing about its impact from your ruined coal
town that/ who (forget my tense) never sees a Latino or Latina period.

Don't lecture anyone about border problems ya insular hayseed.
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Well, in my opinion 1/6 wasn’t an insurrection lol. So far, the courts agree with me.

What you fail to see is that you gave up ground once you conceded the point on using terms
in a colloquial sense. A colloquialism is a termed used loosely. You can’t [if you want to play fair] invoke a strict definition on ‘invasion’ for the identical reasons it’s pointless for me to object to your use of ‘insurrection’ when your using it in a colloquial sense.

At the end of the day we’re both using word games.
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Stating fact and definitions is not word games. The words games were rather obviously used on one side of this discussion as a ploy to distract from the OP.

It is not feasibly possible for anyone of an open mind to watch the short vid in the OP link and not get that it was an insurrection.

Two proud boys are featured. Orders are given to the organized group, which responds by creating the ordered formation, then advances on and faces off with the police, yelling to the police: "Get Back! We don't want to hurt you!" The group then advances on the police position, overwhelms them, and pours into the Capitol.

This is no peaceful tourist visit. It was an insurrection. They violently broke and entered into the Capitol with the distinct goal to take over and disrupt the proceedings.

The first felon sentenced did not take part in the violence, so he got off comparatively light, even though his life is totally trashed now because he believed in Trump too much. We note that Trump did nothing for him, didn't pay his legal fees, didn't offer any pardons.

There are over 150 Insurrectionists who have been charged with more serious crimes involving violence. They have yet to come to trial.

This first sentenced felon is just the tip of the iceberg. Over 400 took part in the insurrection but did not get charged with violence. Their trials and sentences will also be coming.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



Stating fact and definitions is not word games. The words games were rather obviously used on one side of this discussion as a ploy to distract from the OP.

It is not feasibly possible for anyone of an open mind to watch the short vid in the OP link and not get that it was an insurrection.

Two proud boys are featured. Orders are given to the organized group, which responds by creating the ordered formation, then advances on and faces off with the police, yelling to the police: "Get Back! We don't want to hurt you!" The group then advances on the police position, overwhelms them, and pours into the Capitol.

This is no peaceful tourist visit. It was an insurrection. They violently broke and entered into the Capitol with the distinct goal to take over and disrupt the proceedings.

The first felon sentenced did not take part in the violence, so he got off comparatively light, even though his life is totally trashed now because he believed in Trump too much. We note that Trump did nothing for him, didn't pay his legal fees, didn't offer any pardons.

There are over 150 Insurrectionists who have been charged with more serious crimes involving violence. They have yet to come to trial.

This first sentenced felon is just the tip of the iceberg. Over 400 took part in the insurrection but did not get charged with violence. Their trials and sentences will also be coming.
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It will have been a insurrection when charges and convictions attest to it being an insurrection. As it stands, it was a violent riot inside the Capitol.

Plenty of violent riots in 2020, no?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Strongly disagreed. Prison isn't picnic. Notice that he wasn't convicted of any violence; simply being part of the mob that disrupted Congress.

Also note the ramifications: If he was employed, he's now an unemployed 38 year old who will be close to 40 ex-Felon by the time he gets out of prison. He can't vote, he can't own a gun and he is unlikely to ever get a job that pays over minimum wage. His life is most likely ruined.

As the nation is seeing with other insurrectionists, many are already estranged from their own families because of their wacky beliefs.

BTW, IIRC, short sentences like that are likely to see him serve the entire sentence, not get out after 2/3s or so of serving his sentence.
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Get back with us when there is equal treatment under the law and then we’ll celebrate with you.
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
It will have been a insurrection when charges and convictions attest to it being an insurrection. As it stands, it was a violent riot inside the Capitol.

Plenty of violent riots in 2020, no?
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What this country needs, for social healing, is for Trump to be criminally charged with Incitement Of Insurrection.

What Trump did was a felony.

" 18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

U.S. Code

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)"

US Code.

It would do this country a world of good to see Trump judged guilty of Incitement Of Insurrection and sent to prison for it.

He called them to gather. He whipped them into a frenzy. He told them to fight like hell. He sent them to the Capitol. He incited that insurrection.
 
PoliTalker said:
" CNN —

A man who pleaded guilty to breaching the Senate chamber during the US Capitol insurrection was sentenced Monday to eight months in prison in a closely watched case that could influence how hundreds of other rioters charged with the same felony are punished.

Paul Hodgkins, a 38-year-old Floridian, is now the first Capitol rioter convicted of a felony to be sentenced. He pleaded guilty last month to obstructing congressional proceedings – specifically, the counting of the electoral votes, which he helped delay on January 6. He spent about 15 minutes inside the Senate chamber, wearing a Donald Trump shirt and carrying a Trump flag.

The sentence is far less than the 1.5-year prison term that the Justice Department requested. At a hearing Monday, prosecutors argued that 1.5 years would deter future political violence and send a strong warning to “people who may be contemplating a second act” after January 6.

District Judge Randolph Moss departed from that recommendation. He said Hodgkins contributed to a grave offense against democracy but deserved some leniency because he pleaded guilty “exceptionally early,” wasn’t involved in violence and issued a “sincere” apology.

“Hodgkins was staking a claim on the floor of the United States Senate, not with the American flag but with a flag declaring his loyalty to a single individual over the entire nation,” Moss said. "

"In addition to prison, Hodgkins was ordered to pay $2,000 to repair damage to the Capitol. "

First US Capitol rioter convicted of a felony gets 8 months in prison after DOJ says stiffer sentence could stop future attacks

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He got off easy. Wait till the violent ones get sentenced...
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Why dont you show where theres a felon law for Insurrection he was convicted of 8nstead of lying like the bastard you are
 
The impeachment trial charging Trump with Incitement of Insurrection was not a court of law.

It was a popularity contest with nearly half the jury being his own sycophants, fearing for their own future if they should vote one way or another, and requiring 60% of them to vote guilty.

Incredibly, nearly that number did, with 57 Senate votes guilty, just short of the required 60.

Let's see how he does in a real court of law on the same charge.
 
PoliTalker said:
The impeachment trial charging Trump with Incitement of Insurrection was not a court of law.

It was a popularity contest with nearly half the jury being his own sycophants, fearing for their own future if they should vote one way or another, and requiring 60% of them to vote guilty.

Incredibly, nearly that number did, with 57 Senate votes guilty, just short of the required 60.

Let's see how he does in a real court of law on the same charge.
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The politicians can play their games, but the courts will be sentencing the planners of the Insurrection to hard time.

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PoliTalker said:
The impeachment trial charging Trump with Incitement of Insurrection was not a court of law.

It was a popularity contest with nearly half the jury being his own sycophants, fearing for their own future if they should vote one way or another, and requiring 60% of them to vote guilty.

Incredibly, nearly that number did, with 57 Senate votes guilty, just short of the required 60.

Let's see how he does in a real court of law on the same charge.
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A secret ballot would have been 100-0 to convict.
 
PoliTalker said:
I fully understand, however, if buying in to The Big Lie also requires Trump supporters to refuse to call an insurrection an insurrection. Naturally, I also get it that if it had been a mob of liberals that did the exact same crimes? There would be no problem at all calling an insurrection an insurrection.

It wouldn't even be an issue.
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Yes.

I've already been using a similar concept as a teaching aid for the under educated.

Pretend trump never beat Hillary, and she did the same exact thing if she lost last November.
My, how we would be seeing an entirely different narrative from Fox, and 'Ol 61'.
Of course, his moniker wouldn't apply, as the trump virus would never have become the disaster that it is in this nation.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



What this country needs, for social healing, is for Trump to be criminally charged with Incitement Of Insurrection.

What Trump did was a felony.

" 18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

U.S. Code

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)"

US Code.

It would do this country a world of good to see Trump judged guilty of Incitement Of Insurrection and sent to prison for it.

He called them to gather. He whipped them into a frenzy. He told them to fight like hell. He sent them to the Capitol. He incited that insurrection.
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No he didn’t and his own words strongly indicate he didn’t. You’re cherry picking from the speech.

The left has wanted their pound of Trump flesh ever since he had the audacity to beat Hillary in 2016. There’s nothing they won’t stoop to in order to get it.

A *real investigation* would look at every facet of 1/6 including who was responsible for security that day. As soon as it becomes apparent there’s no Trump angle to that question Pelosi’s ‘investigation’ will drop that angle like a hot potato.

Another angle that needs investigated is possible involvement of federal informants. Or should I say the degree of involvement because it’s almost impossible that they weren’t.

This is related to the security question because how was it that Christopher Wray wasn’t beating someone’s door down and warning them about what was going to go down on 1/6. Yet, Capitol security that day was as if it was set up for—any other day.

A related angle is more insidious: given the involvement of federal agents *were any of them* involved in its planning? Very recently, it was discovered by investigative journalists that the kidnapping plot of Gov Whitmer involved an ‘inordinate’ number of federal agents; furthermore, they were involved in the planning and execution to such a degree its a mystery how they escaped being charged with entrapment.

Did this sort of thing go on with 1/6? The country needs real answers to all these questions and then we can talk about healing. And they aren’t going to get them from any ‘investigation’ run by Nancy Pelosi.
 
Hello Althea,

Althea said:
Yes.

I've already been using a similar concept as a teaching aid for the under educated.

Pretend trump never beat Hillary, and she did the same exact thing if she lost last November.
My, how we would be seeing an entirely different narrative from Fox, and 'Ol 61'.
Of course, his moniker wouldn't apply, as the trump virus would never have become the disaster that it is in this nation.
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Hundreds of thousands of Americans died needlessly because of Trump.
 
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