Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
All political extremists are. That doesn't change the fact that Pedo Nazis are evil and should be shot on sight.
Federal judges are headed into a constitutional crisis
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All political extremists are. That doesn't change the fact that Pedo Nazis are evil and should be shot on sight.
How violent you are... in the end, you'll face your own violence turned back upon yourself, as will all radical lefties. Enjoy!
Nobody trusts you, nobody wants the slime you are peddling.
The Radical Left, like the Democrats, are Obsolete.
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IBDaMann
Well-known member
How much $$ are you betting? I'll take you up on that.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Yes. I've been raised and trained to kill the enemies of the Constitution. Did you ever take an oath to the Constitution or were you a chickenshit cowardly piece of shit?How violent you are... in the end, you'll face your own violence turned back upon yourself, as will all radical lefties. Enjoy!
Nobody trusts you, nobody wants the slime you are peddling.
The Radical Left, like the Democrats, are Obsolete.
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IBDaMann
Well-known member
Walt, you are in error in this case, but I cannot fault you on your concern which is well placed and solidly founded. Habeus Corpus is the protection against unlawful incarceration. Habeus Corpus does not block deportations, the quelling of riots, or any execution of law.
The biggest Habeus Corpus challenge in our time resulted from Operation Desert Storm. US forces captured prisoners of war and detained them in Guantanamo and other places that were not on US soil, declaring that all such prisoners could be held, per the Geneva Conventions, until the end of the "conflict." Since the detained were not American citizens, and the detentions were not on US soil, they were beyond the reach of any American court. However, the conflict was never officially declared "over," prisoners were never released, and it appeared that American forces were simply incarcerating people indefinitely without ever providing any the possibility of even a day in court. In Boumediene v. Bush (2008), SCOTUS ruled that American military forces had to act within the Constitution, especially Article I, section 9, regardless of where they were operating in the world. SCOTUS determined that detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have the Constitutional right to challenge their detentions, and that regardless of military conflicts, the US cannot, on their own authority, simply incarcerate people and throw away the key.
You are correct that Habeus Corpus is an importan human rights protection/right, but it pertains to unlawul detention.
You are so wrong. If they were POWs, they would have had more rights, under the Geneva Convention. They were considered "detainees."
At least they were captured in a foreign battlefield.
We are now talking about people who were within our country.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
In order for them to be POW's they have to be part of a nation's organized military and wear an identifying uniform. Those who don't, like spies, saboteurs, terrorists, or resistance fighters, are treated separately under the Geneva Convention. Those found guilty by military court martial, including a simple battlefield court martial, can be summarily executed.
I doubt Trump is going to go that far and accepts instead their deportation back to their country of origin.
Even Hamas has figured that out. Their military Al Qassam brigades wear uniforms and identifying insignia today.
And, if treated as enemy combatants and captured not wearing an identifying uniform or other insignia, after a quick court martial to determine that's the case they can be summarily executed.
If they are designated enemies of the United States, then their presence within the US gives the President and military the right under the laws of war and Geneva conventions to court martial and execute them pretty much on the spot.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Cite the court cases and the text from the Geneva Conventions that show me to be wrong.
Yes. State for the record that your firmest belief is that they were never taken as prisoners.
Captured and taken prisoners. Yes, they were often called "detainees," and ...?
... and we are not talking about incarceration; we are talking about deportation. Notice the different words. Clue in on the different words.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
This is not Hamas. Al Qassam is a proxy of Iran alone. Your assertion is absurd and renders all your arguments discarded, and it doesn't justify your HATRED for Arabs.
Even Hamas has figured that out.
They are Al Qassam, as their headbands clearly read, not Hamas. Iran funds them at roughly $100 million annually to do the Ayatollah's bidding. Al Qassam is not affiliated with any other group.
I am no longer surprised at the lengths you will go to delude yourself into justifying the genocide of Gazans that you apparently are enjoying thoroughly.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
I broke Hume… again.So you concede that he won.
