IBDaMann
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Nazi caring for, and feeding of, pets? How was that abominable?
Fear of Atheism
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IBDaMann
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What are the consequences of not having any theism? I don't have any theism and this is the first I'm learning of any such consequences. Please do tell.
Until the official morality is published and made the law of the land, each individual's morals are subjective. Who gets to claim that his morals are absolute truth?
You've never been any good at expressing yourself accurately or clearly in English. Atheists are the only ones who acknowledge not knowing what the ultimate purpose or meaning of life is, not that there isn't any.
Nobody has any rational basis for believing that anything other than time, energy and space exist. Many have religious reasons for believing in more, but no rational bases.
You have never been able to get this point correct. While matter is a form of energy, not all energy is matter. You nonetheless insist that all matter and energy is somehow "interchangeable" (you can't make this shit up), and you cite your misunderstanding of Einstein's special theory of Relativity for your error. One would have thought that you would have long-since stopped pretending to be able to contribute to this topic in any value-added way.
Where is Evil currently in the standings?
This is what all objective analyses show.
Christians, not atheists, make the "fine-tuned" arguments. Nobody knows how long life has been evolving but I don't know of any atheists who claim millions of years. Billions of years is always the claim. Again, nobody knows; nobody has been around through all the time in question to serve as a witness.
You have never described free will as anything other than an impossibility stemming from an omnipotent, omniscient creator who created a particular timeline from which nothing can deviate.
Every post of yours contains a pearl of absurdity, and this post is no exception. How can a lack of theism somehow be correct?
Perhaps if you were to articulate valid consequences of atheism, this might have a possibility of holding intellectual value.
Maybe you need to contemplate what you totally misunderstand about atheism.
Taichiliberal
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Frankly, I could care less about his personal religious beliefs. He made a declarative statement and when the flaws in that statement are logically pointed out, he pulls nonsense similar to what we're seeing in the current political administration and its allies. Essentially, he's all condescending defense mode and self-aggrandizing repetition. A pity, as we've had pleasant exchanges in the past whether we fully agree on a subject or not.
Bai Lan
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its more pity than a real apology.
you and all your stupidity and incomprehension are quite a shit show.
Bai Lan
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morals are not subjective.
immorality is not a consequene of atheism because morality is rational.
morality is threatened by atheism as much as math is threatened by atheism.
it's you mason war freaks insisting morality is forever entangled in religion.
the truth is you're just evil.
Bai Lan
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cypress is a typical Masonic gatekeeper charged with making sure morality stays in the realm of fucked up religious dogma, so he and his hawk friends can keep making holy wars for all eternity.
they are truly evil.
Irrelevant. I never said anything about morality coming from the God of Abraham. Plato and Socrates believe in an objective moral truth, and they weren't Christians.
You have hundreds of posts on this board openly expressing disdain for Jews and blacks. Your pronouncements on morally bear no weight with me.
Bai Lan
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IBDaMann
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Awesome! I now get to claim victim status. I win.
To be clear, you're talking about my globalist fascism, right?
Bai Lan
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IBDaMann
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Are you familiar with the word "irony"?
Why do I feel like such a winner?
Bai Lan
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i said you were a special non nihilist atheist who realizes morality is rational.
you are like me, jr.
IBDaMann
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Correct. I have my own views on purpose and morality, and they are not nihilistic. They are more of an Einsteinian take.
Bai Lan
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atheism is known for mass murder.
is it scientific improvement of the species?
IBDaMann
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Nope. Atheism is only correctly known for its lack of any theism. Misunderstandings, however, abound. Just talk to Cypress.
There is nothing scientific about atheism, although science itself is atheistic, just as it is amoral, apolitical, asexual, asymptomatic, asynchronous, anaerobic, aseptic, achromatic and definitely atypical.
Bai Lan
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i was referring to your views on purpose and morality.
this is the place to share those, smug taint.
IBDaMann
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OK, I'll answer your question. You have a religion that gives you a ready-made complete "model" of reality, and that model includes rules/hueristics that provide guidance on living your life. From these rules you can derive, or otherwise logically deduce, specific rule sets for specifiic situations.
I have no such ready-made complete model. I work in the other direction. I deduce rules/heuristics from my observations, from science, math, logic and economics, and I determine how things must work in order to make the world a better place, what must occur for society to avoid collapsing, etc. I am in the process of building my model.
Your model comes with your "purpose" and "morality" included. I, on the other hand, must continually apply rational bases to build "purpose" and "morality." I do not have all the answers so I often need to reflect and draw from my experiences to ascertain answers to new questions.
Plato was wrong.
Agree. I do not take him seriously.