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[Wolverine]

What if you are attacked before you have a chance to get another one (that you'll also end up losing)?




Yeah. Pretty much.

They can't get their hands on a gun if you aren't supplying them with those guns for them to steal, or for you to lose.




The 2A is about a "Well-regulated militia".

How are you a "well-regulated militia"?

You have a lot of confidence in thieves? We have covered the losing part. I will not be unarmed in the hope that criminals won't get their hands on guns, if that is what you choose to do with your freedom so be it.
So if they do not steal law abiding citizens guns they won't get them?
No the 2nd is not about a militia
The Second Amendment to the Constitution is clearly about the right of individuals to own and carry guns, George Mason University law Professor Nelson Lund said February 6 in a talk sponsored by the Federalist Society. The claim that the Amendment's language is limited to maintaining organized militias only developed in the 20th century, Lund said.

"The Second Amendment is now among the most misunderstood provisions of the Constitution," he said. "There are two schools of interpretation now: one that it's about the right of individuals and the other that it's about the right of a state to have a militia. Last year the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit became the first court to adopt the correct view: it's an individual right." The operative phrase in the Amendment is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," Lund said. The prefatory phrase about militias is "an ablative absolute clause giving context for the main clause," and is illuminating in that function. "The Second Amendment does not say it protects the right of state militias to bear arms," he noted.
https://www.law.virginia.edu/news/2001_02/amendment.htm

 

[LV426]

You have a lot of confidence in thieves? We have covered the losing part. I will not be unarmed in the hope that criminals won't get their hands on guns, if that is what you choose to do with your freedom so be it.

But criminals are only getting their hands on guns because of you and people like you...you're the supplier.

So if they do not steal law abiding citizens guns they won't get them?

Everyone seems to be a law abiding citizen and responsible gun owner up until the moment they aren't. That's not an acceptable standard.

No the 2nd is not about a militia

Then why is "Well-Regulated Militia" the subject of the sentence?

The Second Amendment to the Constitution is clearly about the right of individuals to own and carry guns, George Mason University law Professor Nelson Lund said February 6 in a talk sponsored by the Federalist Society. The claim that the Amendment's language is limited to maintaining organized militias only developed in the 20th century, Lund said.

Ah, I see...you can't formulate an argument on your own, so you just rely on others to do your thinking for you.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Right, so if they can get through all that, isn't it possible they could also steal your gun, like they do to 200,000 people just like you every year?

What happens if the gun they stole from you was sold to someone who then uses that gun against you?

you're an idiot.

 

[Wolverine]

But criminals are only getting their hands on guns because of you and people like you...you're the supplier.




Everyone seems to be a law abiding citizen and responsible gun owner up until the moment they aren't. That's not an acceptable standard.




Then why is "Well-Regulated Militia" the subject of the sentence?




Ah, I see...you can't formulate an argument on your own, so you just rely on others to do your thinking for you.

Wait I am to blame for their criminal activity?
I don't care what your standard is, you support criminals stealing my constitutionally protected gun!
I spelled it out for you with the link sorry if you didn't read it carefully!
I spelled it out for you with the link sorry if you didn't read it carefully!

 

[LV426]

Wait I am to blame for their criminal activity?

You're putting the gun in their hand by being the supplier.

I don't care what your standard is, you support criminals stealing my constitutionally protected gun!

I don't support it, I just think it's inevitable.

You people struggle with wearing masks, so how am I to believe you'd responsibly and securely store your weapons?

 

[Wolverine]

You're putting the gun in their hand by being the supplier.




I don't support it, I just think it's inevitable.

You people struggle with wearing masks, so how am I to believe you'd responsibly and securely store your weapons?

That is an insane statement, do you suppose they won't be criminal if they don't steal my gun?
I wear a mask where I am supposed to, i do not live in fear however!

 

[LV426]

That is an insane statement, do you suppose they won't be criminal if they don't steal my gun?

Well, they won't be able to commit a crime with a gun if they couldn't steal one from you.

I wear a mask where I am supposed to, i do not live in fear however!

You literally said you have a gun because you live in fear of criminals.

 

[LV426]

I wear a mask where I am supposed to, i do not live in fear however!

You: I do not live in fear!

Also you: I have a gun because I live in fear of criminals armed with guns.

 

[Wolverine]

Well, they won't be able to commit a crime with a gun if they couldn't steal one from you.




You literally said you have a gun because you live in fear of criminals.

There is a difference between living in fear, and living intelligently! I fear God only, the rest are threatening me with heaven, having said that, God gave me a brain, and the responsibility of protecting my family, the chance the criminal may have a weapon means I will also have a weapon to even the odds!

 

[Wolverine]

You: I do not live in fear!

Also you: I have a gun because I live in fear of criminals armed with guns.

Fear can be a healthy thing, no? It's fear for my families protection!

 

[LV426]

There is a difference between living in fear, and living intelligently

No there isn't.

I fear God only

Then you don't need a gun.

he rest are threatening me with heaven, having said that, God gave me a brain, and the responsibility of protecting my family, the chance the criminal may have a weapon means I will also have a weapon to even the odds!

So you're afraid. You're so afraid that you make your home less safe in order to feel more safe.

So when you said you don't live in fear, that's not true. You live entirely in fear, so much so that you have actually defined who you are by this silly object.

 

[LV426]

Fear can be a healthy thing, no? It's fear for my families protection!

Wait, YOU SAID you "didn't live in fear."

But that's not true, is it?

The truth is that you live entirely in fear.

 

[LV426]

It's fear for my families protection!

Then why did you get a gun? Because a gun makes your family LESS SAFE, not more safe.

You are far more likely to harm yourself or others than you will ever, ever use the gun in self defense.

You are also adding to the supply of available guns for a criminal to steal.

 

[Wolverine]

No there isn't.




Then you don't need a gun.




So you're afraid. You're so afraid that you make your home less safe in order to feel more safe.

So when you said you don't live in fear, that's not true. You live entirely in fear, so much so that you have actually defined who you are by this silly object.

If you don't want a gun don't own one! I will protect my family, if a criminal comes to my house and breaks in he will most likely get shot, the door was there for his safety not mine!
Do you know what common sense is? In this case it's having a way to protect yourself if needed!

 

[Wolverine]

Then why did you get a gun? Because a gun makes your family LESS SAFE, not more safe.

You are far more likely to harm yourself or others than you will ever, ever use the gun in self defense.

You are also adding to the supply of available guns for a criminal to steal.

That is absolutely wrong! Again you want me to not protect myself so criminals can't get guns?

 

[LV426]

If you don't want a gun don't own one!

I don't!

But the problem is that we cannot trust YOU to responsibly own one because we can't trust YOU to securely store your weapons, since you had such a difficult time wearing a mask.

This moving bar of "responsible gun ownership" is the proof of that...everyone is a "responsible gun owner" up until the moment they aren't.

When 200,000 of you don't lose your guns every year, then you can make the argument that you're "responsible gun owners"...but until that day comes, you're not inherently one and you never will be.

 

[Wolverine]

I don't!

But the problem is that we cannot trust YOU to responsibly own one because we can't trust YOU to securely store your weapons, since you had such a difficult time wearing a mask.

This moving bar of "responsible gun ownership" is the proof of that...everyone is a "responsible gun owner" up until the moment they aren't.

When 200,000 of you don't lose your guns every year, then you can make the argument that you're "responsible gun owners"...but until that day comes, you're not inherently one and you never will be.

Covered all this before, I thought it was lose or have stolen!

 

[LV426]

I will protect my family, if a criminal comes to my house and breaks in he will most likely get shot, the door was there for his safety not mine!

What if they break in when you're not home? After all, most break-ins occur when the homeowner isn't even there.

Then what good is your gun?

No good, because a thief would probably just steal it, since guns are one of the things thieves look for when breaking into a home.

Let's also not gloss over the fact that you are so murder-happy and have so much bloodlust that you fantasize about killing someone for trying to steal something from you. So, let's not ignore the gross overcompensation there, and murderous intent. But what's more likely to happen is that you will mistake a family member or a friend for an intruder, and end up killing or wounding them by accident.

Because let's face it, you're not someone who acts responsibly anyway...you couldn't even wear a mask correctly.

So since y'all had such troubles with the mask, how can we be secure in the knowledge that y'all know what you're doing with your gun?

 

[LV426]

IDo you know what common sense is?

Common sense dictates that in order to keep your family safe, you wouldn't bring a gun into your home since all a gun does is increase risk.

In this case it's having a way to protect yourself if needed!

But you can't make that assumption because you don't know what your frame of mind would be in any given moment.

So unless you can control for all variables in what is a very uncontrollable situation, you're not more protected with a gun than without one.

In fact, you're in more danger because that gun could end up in that threat's hands just as easily as it's in yours.

 

[LV426]

That is absolutely wrong

No, it isn't!

It's a fact that a gun in your house makes your house less safe, and society less safe because you're adding to the supply of guns for criminals to steal.

Again you want me to not protect myself so criminals can't get guns?

You said you have dogs, a security system, and strong locks...so how are you not able to protect yourself when you've already given three ways that don't involve a gun?