FBI Going After Right-Wing Militias

[Dutch Uncle]

and the patriots will deal with antifa and blm

Vigilantes and other criminals will be shot down in the streets....sometimes in the back of the fucking head from 100-200 yards away. LOL

 

[Son of the Revolution]

Vigilantes and other criminals will be shot down in the streets....sometimes in the back of the fucking head from 100-200 yards away. LOL

LMFAO look at grandpa trying to be a tough guy... too fucking sad and funny are the same time

 

[Dutch Uncle]

LMFAO look at grandpa trying to be a tough guy... too fucking sad and funny are the same time

LOL Check six, asshole.

 

[Son of the Revolution]

LOL Check six, asshole.

ya keep an eye on your six pussyboy

 

[Dutch Uncle]

ya keep an eye on your six pussyboy

You're the one talking all tough but was too scared to go to Washington DC.

Why weren't you there, "Son of the Revolution"? Wouldn't your mommy sign your bus pass?

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Just leaving them alone will solve everything? Are you truly this fucking stupid or what?

You right wingnut BS artists have been whining about Ruby Ridge and Waco for years.....making excuses for an ex-con who violated his parole and then wouldn't comply with the Feds when they went to bring him in and opted for a shoot out....and then making excuses for a doomsday cult leader, who came on the ATF's radar for stockpiling illegal weapons, who had 1 full month to surrender to the feds, but instead chose suicide by cop. These are the people you defend.

Then you blame law enforcement for the the Oklahoma City bombing, although the culprits were the documented violent white supremacist group Aryan nation.

Unreal.

But the clincher is that you had NO PROBLEM with the Patriot Act or the creation of Homeland Security so long as you thought it was anyone of islamic faith or middle eastern extraction that was the target....Now you're going to whine because the very system you condoned is now going after (yet another) outburst of anti-gov't/alt-right anarchy.

Like I told you jokers almost 20 years ago...be careful what you wish for.

Yes, I am. The last time the Left went after the radical Right "militias" was in Clinton's first two years of office. Ruby Ridge, then Waco, and it ended with the Oklahoma City bombing. The last was a direct result of those same radicals deciding the government was coming for them instead of leaving them alone. Waco was a national disgrace. The FBI was badly tainted by Ruby Ridge. There were plenty of other less known fiascos by the ATF, FBI, etc., against other Right wing "militia" groups and individuals that were doing nothing up to that point.

I do blame the government for causing the Oklahoma City bombing. Had the above actions not occurred, McVey and Nichols would have been a couple of losers in a trailer park and little more. They were completely motivated by watching a giddy MSM gush about how the radical Right was being taken down, and that required government action. Neither McVey or Nichols was a member of any particular radical Right group, and certainly not part of the "Aryan Nation." That is a prison gang with small numbers, and neither McVey or Nichols had prison records.

And, I do have a problem with the Patriot Act and institution of the Department of Homeland Security. The former tramples some parts of the Constitution, and the later was an unnecessary expansion of the cabinet and federal government.

Yea, be careful what you wish for... I suggest leaving the radical Right alone and focus on good governance. But knowing the Left they'll go after their enemies first and to hell with good governance...

Your response is sheer apologist/revisionist BS. You just skip over the FACTS I referred to regarding the core of federal presence at Waco & Ruby Ridge and (again) blame the federal gov't for (GASP!) doing their job. And although you are correct that McVey & Nichols were not official members of any Aryan Nation(s), they sure as hell based their actions on literature from them.

Let me just pull the rug out from under this alt-right revisionist BS with some FACTS that you'll deny in typical Orange Oaf fashion:

The Aryan Nation(s) never needed an excuse to be the violent terrorist/insurrection leaning criminals that they were:

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/profiles/aryan-nations

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fed...ryan-brotherhood-crime-ring/story?id=63559060

As to McVey & Nichols, they were looking for ANY excuse to act on their anti-gov't paranoia. Funny how these "losers" got instant contact and assist from Aryan Nation types:

https://www.seattlepi.com/national/article/FBI-tied-McVeigh-to-supremacist-plotters-1107464.php

https://www.flatlandkc.org/news-issues/changed-elohim-city-including-beliefs-residents/

https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/21/us/oklahoma-blast-a-tale-in-2-books.html

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mcveigh/conspirators.html

And finally, your professed "problem" with the Patriot Act and Homeland Security is a dubious at best....because it was ONLY initiated AFTER 9/11...it's primary targets were Al Qaeda infiltraitors and supporters/sympathizer. Folk like you and those cretins you idolize weren't on the list, nor were they "detained" or "renditioned", despite being around for years prior, as my links show. So your premise doesn't hold with your excuses and apologies for the criminal element you seem intent on defending.

I didn't wish for you right wingnuts and alt/right racists to carry on like you have for decades, I wished law enforcement would treat you and your ilk EXACTLY like they treated black folk during the Civil Rights movement, or people of Middle Eastern background and/or islamic faith after 9/11.

You jokers wail and rail against minorities, gov't, women's rights, etc., etc. You wished and hoped and prophesized for some type of large scale insurrection. Well son, you got your wish last Wednesday. Good luck with the consequences...you're gonna need it.

 

[Flash]

You are REALLY going to try to push this, Aren't you?? Truth doesn't need propaganda. It doesn't need anything!

Truth doesn't need propaganda, but when people are trying to influence others they use propaganda to do so. That propaganda can also include truth, elements of truth, or lies as part of that influence.

Not a diversion. A valid comparison. The FBI, the SS, the KGB; all arrest anti-government types. The story was NOT about the FBI or anyone else arresting militia members. You are lying once again.

Did you read the article?

"WASHINGTON — F.B.I. agents and prosecutors investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol have increasingly shifted their attention to dangerous right-wing extremist groups, arresting several people in recent days suspected of taking part in the violence and of possessing ties to notorious militias such as the Oath Keepers and the Three Percenters."

 

[Into the Night]

Truth doesn't need propaganda, but when people are trying to influence others they use propaganda to do so. That propaganda can also include truth, elements of truth, or lies as part of that influence.

Semantics fallacy. A deception is a lie. It is a falsehood.

Did you read the article?

Irrelevant.

"WASHINGTON — F.B.I. agents and prosecutors investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol have increasingly shifted their attention to dangerous right-wing extremist groups, arresting several people in recent days suspected of taking part in the violence and of possessing ties to notorious militias such as the Oath Keepers and the Three Percenters."

The SS and the KGB also arrested anti-government types.

 

[Into the Night]

and the patriots will deal with antifa and blm

But they don't. They let Antifa and BLM continue to burn and pillage.

 

[Flash]

The SS and the KGB also arrested anti-government types.

Irrelevant. The post was about FBI arresting militia members and you claimed it did not occur. The FBI said it made those arrests.

Because the SS and KGB arrested anti-government types does not mean the FBI did not arrest militia members who attacked the Capitol.

 

[Into the Night]

Irrelevant. The post was about FBI arresting militia members and you claimed it did not occur.

Never made any such claim. You are hallucinating again.

The FBI said it made those arrests.

So? The SS and KGB arrested anti-government types also.

Because the SS and KGB arrested anti-government types does not mean the FBI did not arrest militia members who attacked the Capitol.

Never said it did. You are hallucinating again.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I am not a woman, you asshole.

Are you an underaged girl? An over 40 virgin? When do you think you'll become a woman?

 

[Underdog]

Vigilantes and other criminals will be shot down in the streets....sometimes in the back of the fucking head from 100-200 yards away. LOL

What a creepy sociopathic post. your bloodlust seems to stem from your missing out.

 

[Underdog]

LOL Check six, asshole.

hmm, a second lame ass threat coming from you.

 

[Flash]

Never made any such claim. You are hallucinating again.

You have a very poor memory. You said: "The story was NOT about the FBI or anyone else arresting militia members. You are lying once again."

 

[Taichiliberal]

Ever notice how these right wingnut blowhards seem to suddenly disappear they nano-second they are faced with facts they cannot BS pass?

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ter-Right-Wing-Militias&p=4184126#post4184126

 

[BidenPresident]

Ever notice how these right wingnut blowhards seem to suddenly disappear they nano-second they are faced with facts they cannot BS pass?

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ter-Right-Wing-Militias&p=4184126#post4184126

Yes, true.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Instead of going after Muslim terrorists like they should..color me not surprised.

The FBI did let 9/11 happen, after all.

They had all the info and everything, and fucking fudged it.

So we need more government agencies because they failed at their job? I do not understand that.

If something isn't working, stop that crap and do something else!

 

[Into the Night]

Your response is sheer apologist/revisionist BS. You just skip over the FACTS I referred to

Buzzword fallacies. Learn what 'fact' means. It does not mean 'Universal Truth'. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

regarding the core of federal presence at Waco & Ruby Ridge and (again) blame the federal gov't for (GASP!) doing their job.

The government was NOT doing it's job at either event. Both events were murder by federal agents.

And although you are correct that McVey & Nichols were not official members of any Aryan Nation(s), they sure as hell based their actions on literature from them.

Irrelevant. McVeigh was executing a retaliatory attack on the federal government that caused the Waco disaster.

Let me just pull the rug out from under this alt-right revisionist BS with some FACTS that you'll deny in typical Orange Oaf fashion:

Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). Buzzword fallacy.

The Aryan Nation(s) never needed an excuse to be the violent terrorist/insurrection leaning criminals that they were:

As opposed to the KKK, Antifa, or BLM, all funded and supported by the Democrats? Aryan Nations is also funded and supported by Democrats. Did you know that?

As to McVey & Nichols, they were looking for ANY excuse to act on their anti-gov't paranoia. Funny how these "losers" got instant contact and assist from Aryan Nation types:
...deleted Holy Links...

Fake News. They needed no assistance. Ammonium nitrate is easily available from any farm supplier. So is the fuel oil. So is the M80 firecracker that was the primer to detonate it. The timing method to set off the M80 was common firework fuse. The truck is was easily rented from anywhere.

And finally, your professed "problem" with the Patriot Act and Homeland Security is a dubious at best

Not at all. Searching left nostrils at airports has done NOTHING to make airlines safer, and have actually introduced some hazards. It is extraordinarily easy to shut down the whole domestic airline system with a single envelope of sugar or salt left on an airport seat somewhere. Fake bombs used to test the system have caused airline incidents.

....because it was ONLY initiated AFTER 9/11..

So?

.it's primary targets were Al Qaeda infiltraitors and supporters/sympathizer.

Didn't stop any one of them. Their mission had already been accomplished. BTW, lines at security gates is an excellent terrorist target.

Folk like you and those cretins you idolize weren't on the list, nor were they "detained" or "renditioned", despite being around for years prior, as my links show.

Bulverism fallacy. YAVC

So your premise doesn't hold with your excuses and apologies for the criminal element you seem intent on defending.

No one is defending criminals except you. Criminals in government. You obviously do not recognize the Constitution of the United States.

I didn't wish for you right wingnuts and alt/right

Bigotry.

racists

Racism.

to carry on like you have for decades, I wished law enforcement would treat you and your ilk EXACTLY like they treated black folk during the Civil Rights movement,

Racism.

or people of Middle Eastern background and/or islamic faith after 9/11.

Racism.

You jokers wail and rail against minorities,

Racism.

gov't,

Bigotry.

women's rights,

Racism.

etc., etc. You wished and hoped and prophesized for some type of large scale insurrection.

Nope. That's Democrats. It is Democrats funding and supporting the KKK, Antifa, BLM, Aryan Nations, and a whole host of others. Democrats supported radical Muslim extremists as well.

Well son, you got your wish last Wednesday.

No one wanted Antifa and BLM to riot in Washington DC, nor to enter the Capitol building in a false flag operation except Democrats.

Good luck with the consequences...you're gonna need it.

Bad luck with the consequences of your actions and of the actions of the people you support. Fuck you.

 

[Into the Night]

Ever notice how these right wingnut blowhards seem to suddenly disappear they nano-second they are faced with facts they cannot BS pass?

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ter-Right-Wing-Militias&p=4184126#post4184126

Still here. Still calling out your BS and circular argument fallacies.