j-mac
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That is exactly right, and If I am not mistaken even if you buy weapons like handguns, and semi auto rifles from private individuals, you are by law supposed to report, and register the weapon.
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That is exactly right, and If I am not mistaken even if you buy weapons like handguns, and semi auto rifles from private individuals, you are by law supposed to report, and register the weapon.
Careful and well thought out regulation can do better about keeping these firearms from getting into the hands of the evil intenders, no? The 2nd amendment has been interpreted numerous times and will continue to be reinterpreted as long as we have these type problems. The people demand it and ultimately the NRA and other gun nuts can't stop it.
Good luck with all that "supposed to" stuff, jaybird. If people did what they were supposed to do we wouldn't even be having this conversation, would we? Can we face and discuss realities?
j-mac
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the reality of this discussion is that when you take the guns out of the hands of responsible, law abiding citizens then you are left with those that are not law abiding, responsible citizens owning the guns against an unarmed population....
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Unless the lunatic in question was declared mentally unstable or had committed a felony, things could have worked as they were supposed to (as far as the firearms are concerned) and this could still have happened.
j-mac
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Mental instability is something to be determined, we don't know the motives yet. Felonies, the answer is none, reports have him with nothing more than a traffic ticket a year ago. And the firearms are reported to have been purchased legally.
Those with an agenda of taking guns away from responsible citizens started in less than 24 hours after the incident...Shameful really.
It is still no excuse for not having some restrictions.
People are using automobiles as an example of a killing weapon, well, there are restrictions when it comes to driving.
There are laws and they don't prevent every crime, but it is a way of keeping people's actions in check and makes rational people realize there will be consequences for ignoring those restrictions.
Gun owners just have to realize there needs to be some restrictions on gun ownership.
Laws bring some control to society, otherwise, there would more chaos than we currently experience.
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strawman. very few people argue there is no need for restrictions on gun ownership....WB is not one of them.
it would be like me taking the extreme left position of no gun ownership and applying it to you.
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The problem is, the changes that have been suggested here could largely be circumvented by anyone with a modicum of intelligence.
Not sure addressing firearms could have done much to change this. Addressing the laws concerning mental health, and funding mental healthcare would do far more.
Maybe, it is because those people are tired of these types of things happening and wish to try to end this type of violence in the USA.
You aren't the one targeted if you are a responsible gun owner, it is prevention to maybe, just keep someone from doing this, again.
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And I have no problem with people exploring solutions to the problem.
What I objected to, and still object to, is the blanket statement that there are no responsible gun owners at all.
Winterborn, why do people need assault weapons? Have you addressed that, if you have, I missed it. I don't understand the need for a private citizen to have a need for one. Just like hand grenades and nuclear weapons.
I see in history, but again, I am not an expert, that when a government turns against it citizenry, unless a portion of the military doesn't side with the citizens, or a foreign nation intervene on the citizens behalf, then you having your own little assault weapon isn't going to do too much except prolong the inevitable. I guess it is just the human condition, the will to survive.
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Just how many gun laws should we have in this country? We have federal, state, local, and some figures that I have heard estimate the number of all gun laws at some 20,000 laws....How many more would you like?
I have mentioned the ban on assault rifles with some teeth. Monitoring of the sale of munitions on the Internet. Times, they are a changing.
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still nothing howey?
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If there was a national database where every outlet had to reference and update then purchases could be checked.
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thank you mr. 1984
j-mac
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But you have yet to define 'assualt rifles' accurately, plus ammo sales in the US would be virtually impossible without numbering every single round. Times are a changing alright, but not in the direction of freedom if you want every facet of life approved by government.
What is often espoused by those who are not on the side of gun owners is nothing short of what the same folks were against with the Patriot Act. It is a limitation of freedoms and privacy for some folks (gun owners)...and (some non gun owners) I'm all for it as long as it isn't my freedoms and privacy your limiting...seems to be the attitude.
Winterborn has made some good cases on this thread and I agree with much that he has said.
Winterborn has made some good cases on this thread and I agree with much that he has said.