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lol... did you get the above talking points from whitehouse.gov?
False Benghazi outrage?
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lol... did you get the above talking points from whitehouse.gov?
maineman
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So Benghazi was the cradle of the revolution that swept Qadaffi from power. I still fail to understand why going there was so out fo character for the US ambassador. Do people believe that ambassadors stay holed up in their embassies? I remember going to a cocktail party with the US ambassador to Lebanon at the home of Walid Jumblatt, the Druze leader, in a druze town, which was a hotbed of anti- government activity. Should he have stayed home?
Reverend Bones
Pikachu is of the devil!
Yes Al-Qaeda has gotten smarter and more dangerous since 2001. Now they have a real shot at destroying the U.S. Back then the idea that they could defeat us was ridiculous now it seems highly plausible. Religious extremism has spread and the U.S is broke. Al-Qaeda ability to wage war has not been weakened but ours has. Many of the goals of Al-Qaeda are not achievable or realistic but the goals that they share with in common with other Islamic extremists groups and individuals are. The Koran is law throughout the entire Middle East. Secular Gaddafi is gone and Sharia is King in Libya. Libya has been taken over by extremists. The Rebels in Syria use chemical weapons. The Rebels in Syria are truer Muslims then Assad. All the secular leaders in the Middle East are being replaced by Islamists. The Middle East is spending out of control and chaos is raining.
You live in a different universe.
Sierra
Verified User
You can't wage a war on an emotion. Or on metabolical processes (drugs).
christiefan915
Catalyst
To confuse the issue even more:
Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say
By Nancy A. Youssef | McClatchy Foreign Staff
CAIRO — In the month before attackers stormed U.S. facilities in Benghazi and killed four Americans, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens twice turned down offers of security assistance made by the senior U.S. military official in the region in response to concerns that Stevens had raised in a still secret memorandum, two government officials told McClatchy.
Why Stevens, who died of smoke inhalation in the first of two attacks that took place late Sept. 11 and early Sept. 12, 2012, would turn down the offers remains unclear. The deteriorating security situation in Benghazi had been the subject of a meeting that embassy officials held Aug. 15, where they concluded they could not defend the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi. The next day, the embassy drafted a cable outlining the dire circumstances and saying it would spell out what it needed in a separate cable.
“In light of the uncertain security environment, US Mission Benghazi will submit specific requests to US Embassy Tripoli for additional physical security upgrades and staffing needs by separate cover,” said the cable, which was first reported by Fox News. Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did not wait for the separate cable, however. Instead, after reading the Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did not, the officials said.
Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no, the two officials said. “He didn’t say why. He just turned it down,” a defense official who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the subject told McClatchy.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/...o-to-military.html#.UZP2daKyB8G#storylink=cpy
christiefan915
Catalyst
This came from factcheck.org also.
The transcript does show that Obama said in a Rose Garden speech on Sept. 12: “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.” That night, he said at a Las Vegas fundraiser: “No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America.” Obama employed the “act of terror” phrase a third time a day later at a campaign event in Colorado.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Why do you have to be such a pig?
And don't get all huffy about being called vanilla, that's way different from white trash.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Numbnuts. Saddam had weapons etc. that weren't destroyed until the 1990s. I've been posting this interview for at least 10 years on various boards yet bozos like you will continue to ignore it.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/unscom950822.pdf
And this news was known in 2003 but it still didn't stop your Messiah, did it.
FAIR BLOG
Mar 04 2013
Ten Years Ago, the Truth About Iraqi WMDs Was Published–and Ignored
By Peter Hart
Ten years ago, a major American magazine published a bombshell report about the non-existence of Iraq's WMDs. But it was hardly noticed by a corporate press corps too busy hyping the threat from those non-existent weapons.
The story appeared in the March 3, 2003, issue of Newsweek–a short piece with the headline "The Defector's Secrets." It almost seemed as if the magazine didn't know what it had on its hands. Or perhaps it did.
The story by John Barry centered on defector Hussein Kamel, Saddam Hussein's brother-in-law. Kamel was widely cited by U.S. political leaders and media figures as providing the proof that Iraq had substantial quantities of banned weapons.
But Newsweek reported that what Kamel actually said in 1995 was that Iraq had destroyed those stockpiles. As Barry put it, these revelations raised "questions about whether the WMD stockpiles attributed to Iraq still exist."
(Continued)
http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/03/04...h-about-iraqi-wmds-was-published-and-ignored/
christiefan915
Catalyst
[FONT=Arial, Verdana, Helvetica]Rice: No Evidence Iraq Moved WMD to Syria
By Associated Press
January 9, 2004, 4:07 PM EST
WASHINGTON -- The United States has no credible evidence that Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria early last year before the U.S.-led war that drove Saddam Hussein from power, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said Friday.
Rice said, "Any indication that something like that happened would be a very serious matter.
"But I want to be very clear: we don't, at this point, have any indications that I would consider credible and firm that that has taken place, but we will tie down every lead," she said at a White House briefing about Bush's trip Monday to a hemispheric summit in Mexico.
In nine months, arms control experts in Iraq have failed to find a single item from a long list of weapons of mass destruction. The Bush administration cited an alleged weapons stockpile in Iraq as a primary reason for launching the war against Saddam's government.
"We're going to follow every lead on what may have happened here," Rice said. "I don't think we are at the point that we can make a judgment on this issue. There hasn't been any hard evidence that such a thing happened.
"But obviously we're going to follow up every lead," she said, "and it would be a serious problem if that, in fact, did happen."
Rice said the United States talks with Syria about a number of issues, "including the borders with Iraq and what may have happened in the past there and what may be continuing to happen there." Mainly, she said, the United States opposes Syria's support for terrorism, particularly its support for anti-Palestinian groups Hezbollah and Hamas.
Copyright © 2004, The Associated Press [/FONT]
http://www.ornery.org/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/15/455.html
You may have no interest, thats up to you.....we all know it was driven by their Muslim religion....they admitted that so there is no mystery....
I would bet those same generic declarations were made many times over the years by Obama....as did every President for the last 30 years or so.....
and thats the point....
christiefan915
Catalyst
No, the point is he made them about the Benghazi attack.
Maybe someone will explain how an act of terror is different from a terrorist act.
Read 'em again....any president could have said exactly what he said 10, 20, or 30 years ago.....thats what generic means....its non specific....