FACT FOCUS: Trump claims the US is the only country with birthright citizenship. It’s not

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FACT FOCUS: Trump claims the US is the only country with birthright citizenship. It's not

Not long before the Supreme Court heard arguments on whether to allow President Donald Trump’s restrictions on birthright citizenship to take effect, he falsely claimed on Truth Social that the United States is the only country that offers such a right.

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As the Supreme Court prepared to hear arguments Thursday on whether to allow President Donald Trump’s restrictions on birthright citizenship to take effect, he falsely claimed on Truth Social that the United States is the only country that offers such a right.

Trump signed an executive order on Jan. 20, the first day of his second term, that would deny citizenship to children who are born to people who are living in the U.S. illegally or temporarily. It has been put on nationwide holds by lower court orders.

The administration is now appealing, on an emergency basis, the authority of individual judges to issue these rulings, known as nationwide, or universal, injunctions. The constitutionality of the executive order itself is not yet before the court.

Here’s a closer look at the facts.

TRUMP, discussing birthright citizenship in a Truth Social post: “The United States of America is the only Country in the World that does this, for what reason, nobody knows.”


THE FACTS: This is not true. About 30 countries, including the U.S., offer unconditional birthright citizenship, according to the CIA World Factbook and the Library of Congress. Birthright citizenship was enshrined in the Constitution after the Civil War to ensure that formerly enslaved people would be citizens.


“The statement is pretty obviously wrong,” said Ilya Somin, a professor of law at George Mason University who is an expert on constitutional law and migration rights. “Many countries have birthright citizenship, though in some of them the rules are different from those in the US.”



Birthright citizenship is a principle known as jus soli or “right of the soil.” It bases citizenship on a person being born within a country’s territory. In contrast, the principle of jus sanguinis or “right of blood” determines citizenship based on the citizenship of one’s parents or other ancestors.


Citizenship is granted to anyone born in the U.S., regardless of the parents’ immigration status. Only children of diplomats, who have allegiance to another government, and of enemies present in the U.S. during hostile occupation do not qualify. Those born to parents of sovereign Native American tribes were also excluded until the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.


Most countries with unconditional birthright citizenship, among them Canada and Mexico, are concentrated in the Americas. The rest are in Africa and Asia. Some countries offer citizenship to those born in their territory to noncitizen parents only under certain conditions, such as the legal status of their parents or the age of the person applying for citizenship based on place of birth.

The first sentence of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, often referred to as the Citizenship Clause, guarantees birthright citizenship. It states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

This clause effectively overturned the notorious Dred Scott decision of 1857, in which the Supreme Court held that Black people, no matter whether or not they were enslaved, were not citizens. It was ratified, along with the rest of the 14th Amendment, in 1868 after it was passed by the Senate in 1866. The Civil War ended in 1865.



Trump’s executive order on birthright citizenship conflicts with a Supreme Court decision from 1898 that held that the Citizenship Clause made citizens of all children born on U.S. soil with narrow exceptions that are not at issue in the case currently before the court.

The justices are also considering appeals from the Trump administration on several other issues, many related to immigration.

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

The first sentence of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, often referred to as the Citizenship Clause, guarantees birthright citizenship. It states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

zakly. A person born to an illegal alien inherits her nationality and is subject to the jurisdiction of her county. The 14A bans birthright citizenship.

 

[Nordberg]

His term was prepared for by a staff of lawyers who tried to find workarounds to establish Project 2025, replacing the Constitutional Republic. He is trying to sidestep the Constitution with this one. The real brains behind this are the Federalist Society and the writers of the project. There are also many wealthy and powerful people working to build the oligarchy. Many involved in writing the Project are in his administration.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

FACT FOCUS: Trump claims the US is the only country with birthright citizenship. It's not

Not long before the Supreme Court heard arguments on whether to allow President Donald Trump’s restrictions on birthright citizenship to take effect, he falsely claimed on Truth Social that the United States is the only country that offers such a right.

apnews.com

As the Supreme Court prepared to hear arguments Thursday on whether to allow President Donald Trump’s restrictions on birthright citizenship to take effect, he falsely claimed on Truth Social that the United States is the only country that offers such a right.

Trump signed an executive order on Jan. 20, the first day of his second term, that would deny citizenship to children who are born to people who are living in the U.S. illegally or temporarily. It has been put on nationwide holds by lower court orders.

The administration is now appealing, on an emergency basis, the authority of individual judges to issue these rulings, known as nationwide, or universal, injunctions. The constitutionality of the executive order itself is not yet before the court.

Here’s a closer look at the facts.

TRUMP, discussing birthright citizenship in a Truth Social post: “The United States of America is the only Country in the World that does this, for what reason, nobody knows.”


THE FACTS: This is not true. About 30 countries, including the U.S., offer unconditional birthright citizenship, according to the CIA World Factbook and the Library of Congress. Birthright citizenship was enshrined in the Constitution after the Civil War to ensure that formerly enslaved people would be citizens.


“The statement is pretty obviously wrong,” said Ilya Somin, a professor of law at George Mason University who is an expert on constitutional law and migration rights. “Many countries have birthright citizenship, though in some of them the rules are different from those in the US.”



Birthright citizenship is a principle known as jus soli or “right of the soil.” It bases citizenship on a person being born within a country’s territory. In contrast, the principle of jus sanguinis or “right of blood” determines citizenship based on the citizenship of one’s parents or other ancestors.


Citizenship is granted to anyone born in the U.S., regardless of the parents’ immigration status. Only children of diplomats, who have allegiance to another government, and of enemies present in the U.S. during hostile occupation do not qualify. Those born to parents of sovereign Native American tribes were also excluded until the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.


Most countries with unconditional birthright citizenship, among them Canada and Mexico, are concentrated in the Americas. The rest are in Africa and Asia. Some countries offer citizenship to those born in their territory to noncitizen parents only under certain conditions, such as the legal status of their parents or the age of the person applying for citizenship based on place of birth.

The first sentence of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, often referred to as the Citizenship Clause, guarantees birthright citizenship. It states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

This clause effectively overturned the notorious Dred Scott decision of 1857, in which the Supreme Court held that Black people, no matter whether or not they were enslaved, were not citizens. It was ratified, along with the rest of the 14th Amendment, in 1868 after it was passed by the Senate in 1866. The Civil War ended in 1865.



Trump’s executive order on birthright citizenship conflicts with a Supreme Court decision from 1898 that held that the Citizenship Clause made citizens of all children born on U.S. soil with narrow exceptions that are not at issue in the case currently before the court.

The justices are also considering appeals from the Trump administration on several other issues, many related to immigration.

Trump is delusional and his usual idiots believe his delusions.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

zakly. A person born to an illegal alien inherits her nationality and is subject to the jurisdiction of her county. The 14A bans birthright citizenship.

QED

 

[T. A. Gardner]

While right now, citizenship is granted to anyone born in the US, I would say that two exceptions seem reasonable today:

Not granting it to anyone who is in the US on a tourist visa alone. That is, if you came to the US for a period of 30 or less days, as a tourist, citizenship isn't granted. That means a pregnant woman cannot come to the US on such a visa with the intent of giving birth to have a child be a US citizen. That's gaming the system for personal gain.

You are in the US illegally. By allowing someone here illegally to have a child and that child becomes a citizen automatically the adult(s) involved benefit from a criminal act--illegal immigration. We should not reward criminals.

In both cases, the child once an adult, could be given the opportunity to apply for citizenship based on their birth without 'waiting in line.'

 

[Dutch Uncle]

While right now, citizenship is granted to anyone born in the US, I would say that two exceptions seem reasonable today:

Not granting it to anyone who is in the US on a tourist visa alone. That is, if you came to the US for a period of 30 or less days, as a tourist, citizenship isn't granted. That means a pregnant woman cannot come to the US on such a visa with the intent of giving birth to have a child be a US citizen. That's gaming the system for personal gain.

You are in the US illegally. By allowing someone here illegally to have a child and that child becomes a citizen automatically the adult(s) involved benefit from a criminal act--illegal immigration. We should not reward criminals.

In both cases, the child once an adult, could be given the opportunity to apply for citizenship based on their birth without 'waiting in line.'

Awesome, Terry. By what process can your changes be made?:
A. Executive Order
B. Constitutional amendment process
C. Wishing for it really, really hard
D. Both A and C

Most JPP MAGAts seem to believe it's answer D. You?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

His term was prepared for by a staff of lawyers who tried to find workarounds to establish Project 2025, replacing the Constitutional Republic. He is trying to sidestep the Constitution with this one. The real brains behind this are the Federalist Society and the writers of the project. There are also many wealthy and powerful people working to build the oligarchy. Many involved in writing the Project are in his administration.

All true, yet the MAGATs see not a single thing wrong with this. They're still believers in the old "trickle down" theory and don't understand that the golden showers they expect to get from it are really piss, not $$.

 

[Phantasmal]

FACT FOCUS: Trump claims the US is the only country with birthright citizenship. It's not

Not long before the Supreme Court heard arguments on whether to allow President Donald Trump’s restrictions on birthright citizenship to take effect, he falsely claimed on Truth Social that the United States is the only country that offers such a right.

apnews.com

As the Supreme Court prepared to hear arguments Thursday on whether to allow President Donald Trump’s restrictions on birthright citizenship to take effect, he falsely claimed on Truth Social that the United States is the only country that offers such a right.

Trump signed an executive order on Jan. 20, the first day of his second term, that would deny citizenship to children who are born to people who are living in the U.S. illegally or temporarily. It has been put on nationwide holds by lower court orders.

The administration is now appealing, on an emergency basis, the authority of individual judges to issue these rulings, known as nationwide, or universal, injunctions. The constitutionality of the executive order itself is not yet before the court.

Here’s a closer look at the facts.

TRUMP, discussing birthright citizenship in a Truth Social post: “The United States of America is the only Country in the World that does this, for what reason, nobody knows.”


THE FACTS: This is not true. About 30 countries, including the U.S., offer unconditional birthright citizenship, according to the CIA World Factbook and the Library of Congress. Birthright citizenship was enshrined in the Constitution after the Civil War to ensure that formerly enslaved people would be citizens.


“The statement is pretty obviously wrong,” said Ilya Somin, a professor of law at George Mason University who is an expert on constitutional law and migration rights. “Many countries have birthright citizenship, though in some of them the rules are different from those in the US.”



Birthright citizenship is a principle known as jus soli or “right of the soil.” It bases citizenship on a person being born within a country’s territory. In contrast, the principle of jus sanguinis or “right of blood” determines citizenship based on the citizenship of one’s parents or other ancestors.


Citizenship is granted to anyone born in the U.S., regardless of the parents’ immigration status. Only children of diplomats, who have allegiance to another government, and of enemies present in the U.S. during hostile occupation do not qualify. Those born to parents of sovereign Native American tribes were also excluded until the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.


Most countries with unconditional birthright citizenship, among them Canada and Mexico, are concentrated in the Americas. The rest are in Africa and Asia. Some countries offer citizenship to those born in their territory to noncitizen parents only under certain conditions, such as the legal status of their parents or the age of the person applying for citizenship based on place of birth.

The first sentence of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, often referred to as the Citizenship Clause, guarantees birthright citizenship. It states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

This clause effectively overturned the notorious Dred Scott decision of 1857, in which the Supreme Court held that Black people, no matter whether or not they were enslaved, were not citizens. It was ratified, along with the rest of the 14th Amendment, in 1868 after it was passed by the Senate in 1866. The Civil War ended in 1865.



Trump’s executive order on birthright citizenship conflicts with a Supreme Court decision from 1898 that held that the Citizenship Clause made citizens of all children born on U.S. soil with narrow exceptions that are not at issue in the case currently before the court.

The justices are also considering appeals from the Trump administration on several other issues, many related to immigration.

Trump says a lot of things he knows absolutely nothing about and the simpleminded believe everything he says.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

All true, yet the MAGATs see not a single thing wrong with this. They're still believers in the old "trickle down" theory and don't understand that the golden showers they expect to get from it are really piss, not $$.

It appears most JPP MAGAts loooove Golden Showers just like their Orange Messiah!

 

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Days until Trump is out of office

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Lots and lots of time to make necessary changes...

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Awesome, Terry. By what process can your changes be made?:
A. Executive Order
B. Constitutional amendment process
C. Wishing for it really, really hard
D. Both A and C

Most JPP MAGAts seem to believe it's answer D. You?

E. Legal interpretation of the 14th Amendment. After all, the Supreme Court at one point found that abortion was a right when the Constitution was silent on the issue, as but one example. So, A coupled with E is one process.

 

[Jarod]

FACT FOCUS: Trump claims the US is the only country with birthright citizenship. It's not

Not long before the Supreme Court heard arguments on whether to allow President Donald Trump’s restrictions on birthright citizenship to take effect, he falsely claimed on Truth Social that the United States is the only country that offers such a right.

apnews.com

As the Supreme Court prepared to hear arguments Thursday on whether to allow President Donald Trump’s restrictions on birthright citizenship to take effect, he falsely claimed on Truth Social that the United States is the only country that offers such a right.

Trump signed an executive order on Jan. 20, the first day of his second term, that would deny citizenship to children who are born to people who are living in the U.S. illegally or temporarily. It has been put on nationwide holds by lower court orders.

The administration is now appealing, on an emergency basis, the authority of individual judges to issue these rulings, known as nationwide, or universal, injunctions. The constitutionality of the executive order itself is not yet before the court.

Here’s a closer look at the facts.

TRUMP, discussing birthright citizenship in a Truth Social post: “The United States of America is the only Country in the World that does this, for what reason, nobody knows.”


THE FACTS: This is not true. About 30 countries, including the U.S., offer unconditional birthright citizenship, according to the CIA World Factbook and the Library of Congress. Birthright citizenship was enshrined in the Constitution after the Civil War to ensure that formerly enslaved people would be citizens.


“The statement is pretty obviously wrong,” said Ilya Somin, a professor of law at George Mason University who is an expert on constitutional law and migration rights. “Many countries have birthright citizenship, though in some of them the rules are different from those in the US.”



Birthright citizenship is a principle known as jus soli or “right of the soil.” It bases citizenship on a person being born within a country’s territory. In contrast, the principle of jus sanguinis or “right of blood” determines citizenship based on the citizenship of one’s parents or other ancestors.


Citizenship is granted to anyone born in the U.S., regardless of the parents’ immigration status. Only children of diplomats, who have allegiance to another government, and of enemies present in the U.S. during hostile occupation do not qualify. Those born to parents of sovereign Native American tribes were also excluded until the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.


Most countries with unconditional birthright citizenship, among them Canada and Mexico, are concentrated in the Americas. The rest are in Africa and Asia. Some countries offer citizenship to those born in their territory to noncitizen parents only under certain conditions, such as the legal status of their parents or the age of the person applying for citizenship based on place of birth.

The first sentence of the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, often referred to as the Citizenship Clause, guarantees birthright citizenship. It states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

This clause effectively overturned the notorious Dred Scott decision of 1857, in which the Supreme Court held that Black people, no matter whether or not they were enslaved, were not citizens. It was ratified, along with the rest of the 14th Amendment, in 1868 after it was passed by the Senate in 1866. The Civil War ended in 1865.



Trump’s executive order on birthright citizenship conflicts with a Supreme Court decision from 1898 that held that the Citizenship Clause made citizens of all children born on U.S. soil with narrow exceptions that are not at issue in the case currently before the court.

The justices are also considering appeals from the Trump administration on several other issues, many related to immigration.

He lies

 

[Jarod]

While right now, citizenship is granted to anyone born in the US, I would say that two exceptions seem reasonable today:

Not granting it to anyone who is in the US on a tourist visa alone. That is, if you came to the US for a period of 30 or less days, as a tourist, citizenship isn't granted. That means a pregnant woman cannot come to the US on such a visa with the intent of giving birth to have a child be a US citizen. That's gaming the system for personal gain.

You are in the US illegally. By allowing someone here illegally to have a child and that child becomes a citizen automatically the adult(s) involved benefit from a criminal act--illegal immigration. We should not reward criminals.

In both cases, the child once an adult, could be given the opportunity to apply for citizenship based on their birth without 'waiting in line.'

Might be reasonable but it’s not constitutional.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Trump says a lot of things he knows absolutely nothing about and the simpleminded believe everything he says.

It's been interesting to see the reaction of various JPP personalities when Joe Biden said something stupid or garbled and when Donald Trump says something stupid or garbled.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

E. Legal interpretation of the 14th Amendment. After all, the Supreme Court at one point found that abortion was a right when the Constitution was silent on the issue, as but one example. So, A coupled with E is one process.

So you'll be happy if SCOTUS supports the Constitution as is? Or will you join your Orange Jesus in attacking the Justices?

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THE SUPREME COURT WON’T ALLOW US TO GET CRIMINALS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY!

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Might be reasonable but it’s not constitutional.

That depends on how you interpret things like the 14th Amendment. Persons illegally in the country are technically foreign nationals not subject to US law except through criminal activity while tourists are essentially just guest foreign nationals who are not subject to US law except through civil and criminal actions and courts. That is, neither has some obligation to the US government or expects to get some benefit from the US government.

That makes them essentially equal to Native Americans prior to the changes in law that made Natives citizens. In this case, illegals and tourists don't count as 'citizens' and therefore are not given the Right to their offspring being citizens as with Native Americans at one time.

 

[Jarod]

That depends on how you interpret things like the 14th Amendment. Persons illegally in the country are technically foreign nationals not subject to US law except through criminal activity while tourists are essentially just guest foreign nationals who are not subject to US law except through civil and criminal actions and courts. That is, neither has some obligation to the US government or expects to get some benefit from the US government.

That makes them essentially equal to Native Americans prior to the changes in law that made Natives citizens. In this case, illegals and tourists don't count as 'citizens' and therefore are not given the Right to their offspring being citizens as with Native Americans at one time.

You are absolutely wrong, foreign nationals in the United States are subject to jurisdiction of the United States. There are no exceptions.

They are criminally subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. They are civilly subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. They are subject to the jurisdiction of the IRS if they make money in the United States. In every way, shape or form, they are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You are absolutely wrong, foreign nationals in the United States are subject to jurisdiction of the United States. There are no exceptions.

They aren't subject to paying taxes, getting benefits from the government, and a whole plethora of other stuff. They are subject to civil and criminal law however. That doesn't make them count under the 14th Amendment like you claim.

 

[FastLane]

They aren't subject to paying taxes, getting benefits from the government, and a whole plethora of other stuff. They are subject to civil and criminal law however. That doesn't make them count under the 14th Amendment like you claim.

You can't trial them for treason.