FACT CHECK: Nope no video of BIDEN coming for your GUNS, another FAKE video!

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Centerleftfl said:
ALL guns are "assault" weapons. ANY guns that can mow down civilians as if they were engaged in WAR is useless, dangerous and BULLSHIT.

So yes, BAN THEIR SALE TO NON MILITARY AND POLICE ENTITIES. And ban the sale of AMMO of the ones that already exist.

Hell, I just wrote the bill.
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Never gonna happen. Deal with it.
 
Centerleftfl said:
Where does anyone say CONFISCATE?

You idiots walk into everytime!
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According to Biden's own website:

Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.
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Register now, confiscate later. That has always been the way of totalitarian governments.
 
Centerleftfl said:
Where does anyone say CONFISCATE?

You idiots walk into everytime!
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Beto did, Biden didn't. Where did I claim Biden said anything about confiscation?

Thanks for the name-calling. It just goes to prove you are no better than the RWNJs.
 
Centerleftfl said:
FACT CHECK: Nope no video of BIDEN coming for your GUNS, another FAKE video!

Speaking of fake videos.
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Looks like I was right about that auto worker guy Biden told to f*ck off. The guy was a rightwing deplorable who tried to pin Biden down on rightwing talking points and rightwing lies.

Originally Posted by Callinectes -- The guy ain't a Trump guy. Didn't vote for him in 2016, and he refused to say who he'll vote for this time around, he's also a union guy.


Cypress' response -- He can claim whatever he wants. Lies are cheap, and I have seen more than my fair share of rightwing liars.

The fact that this guy is patrolling Youtube and watching obscure youtube videos which claim Joe Biden is a radical out to abolish your second amendment rights, tells me everything I need to know about what this guy's agenda and motivations were for approaching Biden.

The fact that this deplorable then went out of his way to complain to Biden about an obscure Youtube video transparently telegraphs his entire agenda for trying to meet Biden, aka it was a partisan attempt to pin MAGA talking points on Biden.

Biden was smart enough to see what this guy's agenda and gig were - and justifiably told him to fuck off.

Wrapping up: You rightwingers are extremely upset that Joe Biden told a partisan deplorable to f*ck off. I suggest fainting couches and smelling salts if you need it, snowflakes.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...anity-laced-gun-dispute&p=3529066#post3529066
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Dark Soul said:
According to Biden's own website:

Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.
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Register now, confiscate later. That has always been the way of totalitarian governments.
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Agreed that's the trend. It wasn't until this year that any Democrats dared to voice the word "confiscation" in public. In 2016 Hillary danced with the idea of an "Australian-style" form of gun control which, of course, is mandatory buyback AKA confiscation. It's an obvious progression of the current Democratic agenda; to force Americans into giving up their right of self-defense.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed that's the trend. It wasn't until this year that any Democrats dared to voice the word "confiscation" in public. In 2016 Hillary danced with the idea of an "Australian-style" form of gun control which, of course, is mandatory buyback AKA confiscation. It's an obvious progression of the current Democratic agenda; to force Americans into giving up their right of self-defense.
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NO ONE is going to make you SELL BACK your weapons. When they do, get back to us.

Jezuzzf'gchrist!
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed that's the trend. It wasn't until this year that any Democrats dared to voice the word "confiscation" in public. In 2016 Hillary danced with the idea of an "Australian-style" form of gun control which, of course, is mandatory buyback AKA confiscation. It's an obvious progression of the current Democratic agenda; to force Americans into giving up their right of self-defense.
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As a monopoly FedCo will set the buyback price to whatever they want, and I guarantee hat it won't be the retail coast of the weapon. My son has well over $1000 invested in his AR15 and I don't think that he wants to give it to some jack-boot for some percentage of that.

That leaves the option of "registration". That's basically putting a target on your back since you would be the first to get paid a visit when FedCo decides that they don't want you to be armed.
 
Dark Soul said:
As a monopoly FedCo will set the buyback price to whatever they want, and I guarantee hat it won't be the retail coast of the weapon. My son has well over $1000 invested in his AR15 and I don't think that he wants to give it to some jack-boot for some percentage of that.

That leaves the option of "registration". That's basically putting a target on your back since you would be the first to get paid a visit when FedCo decides that they don't want you to be armed.
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Which are all good reasons to elect leaders who don't support banning things.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Which are all good reasons to elect leaders who don't support banning things.
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You mean like blowing shit up in your neighborhood, beating your wife or raping women or kids? Child porn? How about driving 125 miles an hour down US roads? How about carrying firearms onto trains, planes, into office buildings, courts, schools....
 
Centerleftfl said:
You mean like blowing shit up in your neighborhood, beating your wife or raping women or kids? Child porn? How about driving 125 miles an hour down US roads? How about carrying firearms onto trains, planes, into office buildings, courts, schools....
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I'm all for elimination of speed limits on certain sections of rural highways.
 
Centerleftfl said:
You mean like blowing shit up in your neighborhood, beating your wife or raping women or kids? Child porn? How about driving 125 miles an hour down US roads? How about carrying firearms onto trains, planes, into office buildings, courts, schools....
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No, but thanks for reinforcing my point on other threads about the authoritarian Left being no different than the authoritarian Right: They'll lie, twist words and fear-monger to push their agenda of forcing people into submission. You, "Centerleftfl" are no better than any RW or LW totalitarian.
 
Centerleftfl said:
This is just really a fucking cliche. So Beto O'Rourke from TEXAS backs Biden, suddenly there is a video of BIDEN saying he is coming for your guns and Beto made him do it? And Beto is going to be the GUN CZAR. Anyone here believe that?

2 WORDS: FAKED VIDEO

QUESTION: So I'll ask it again. WTH! If DEMOCRATS are so dishonest, despicable, immoral, amoral .... then WHY does the RIGHT have to make shit up? There should be absolutely no need. Just run the real shit we say and do!



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O’Rourke Endorsement Triggers False Posts on Biden’s Gun Policy

By Saranac Hale Spencer
Posted on March 6, 2020

Quick Take

Beto O’Rourke’s endorsement of Joe Biden has been used as fuel for misinformation about the former vice president’s gun control policy. If elected president, Biden did not say he is “coming for your guns.”
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Joe Biden locked up endorsements from three former opponents in the Democratic presidential primary on the eve of Super Tuesday. Sen. and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke each pledged support for the former vice president.

The endorsement from O’Rourke, who has mandatory buyback policy for certain types of guns, has fueled a range of misinformation about Biden’s proposed gun policy, which hasn’t actually changed. That fact has been overlooked by many who are opposed to stricter gun laws, including at least one congressman who posted a video featuring his AR-15. Republican Rep. Ken Buck, of Colorado, challenged Biden and O’Rourke to “come and take it”.

 Buck knew that Biden’s proposed gun policy doesn’t include a mandatory buyback program, spokeswoman Lindsey Curnutte told FactCheck.org in a phone interview that the video was made “in response to Beto’s general view on the issue.”

After O’Rourke at a rally in Dallas on March 2, he and his wife, Amy, took Biden to a Whataburger restaurant and broadcast the dinner on Facebook live. A clip from that video has now been widely misconstrued to say that Biden is “‘coming for’ your guns.”

One story perpetuating the falsehood carries the headline: “Watch: Biden Looks Into The Camera And Promises To Take Away Americans’ Guns.”
He didn’t say that.

This is what he actually said:

“And by the way, this guy can change the face of what we’re dealing with, with regard to guns — assault weapons — with regard to dealing with climate change, and I just want — I’m warning Amy, if I win, I’m coming for him.”

This clip shows the exchange taken from the full video:

Other organizations, including the National Rifle Association’s lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action, have made more sweeping claims based on how Biden accepted the endorsement.

Here’s what Biden
after O’Rourke spoke at the rally:
“I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee this is not the last you’ve seen of this guy — you’re going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re going to be the one who leads this effort. I’m counting on you. I’m counting on you. We need you badly — the state needs you, the country needs you, you’re the best.”

The NRA-ILA took a clip of that statement and spliced it with a clip of O’Rourke advocating removal of certain types of guns during a Democratic debate in September. O’Rourke advocated a mandatory buyback program, “[H]ell yes, we’re going to take you’re AR-15, your AK-47. We’re not going to allow it to be used against our fellow Americans anymore.” The NRA-ILA posted its spliced platform on gun control does not include mandatory buybacks. Rather, it offers a buyback program for those who don’t want to register their “assault weapons” under the National Firearms Act.

While the NRA-ILA’s video is misleading, a headline on a website called The Truth About Guns goes further, claiming, “Biden Would Make Beto O’Rourke His Administration’s Gun Confiscation Czar.”

Biden has made no such commitment and has not supported “gun confiscation.”

A campaign advisor for Biden emphasized that O’Rourke will be working on “grassroots” efforts. This is the full statement that the campaign sent when we asked for clarification:

“Vice President Biden is the sole candidate in the race who has beaten the NRA — twice. The epidemic of gun violence that is wracking communities across our nation is a full-blown moral and safety crisis, especially for our children. He’s honored to have Beto O’Rourke’s endorsement, and is thrilled that Beto will be leading grassroots support for the Vice President’s gun reform proposals that we absolutely can’t afford not to make as soon as possible. It’s vital that the next president be able to take on and defeat the gun manufacturers and their lobby, and Joe Biden is the only candidate with the right background and credentials to do so.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/orourke-endorsement-triggers-false-posts-on-bidens-gun-policy/
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WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT..YOU AND "FACTCHECK" MISS THIS "LITTLE DETAIL"?



Joe Biden promises to put Beto O’Rourke in charge of gun control

https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden-promises-to-put-beto-orourke-in-charge-of-gun-control/





Beto O'Rourke says he expects Americans to surrender their guns

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/beto-orourke-says-he-expects-americans-to-surrender-their-guns/
 
Centerleftfl said:
You know assholes, if 'the government' tells you can't build a car in the US with speed of 200 or 250 miles an hour, don't bother to BUILD THEM, are they going to take your fucking car away?
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So now you're changing the subject to whether or not gun rights are valid? I thought we were debating your "fact-checker" lie that conservatives were lying about Biden being a gun-confiscator. What happened? Don't like being exposed as a gullible chump parroting partisan misinformation?

:thinking:
 
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