Explosions Rip Through Catholic Churches: Islamic Radicals Claim Responsibility

Onceler said:
And what smartass remark did I "pop off" about Christianity?

The difference w/ me is that I respect both religions.
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There is nothing to respect in Islam. It is nothing more than a tribal murderous cult from the dark ages used for centuries to control the masses. It was the Christian philosophy that civilized and modernized the world, not the Islamic philosophy.
 
Dixie said:
...the history of Christianity has just as many extremists, just as much terror, and just as much death & violence.

No, you don't respect both religions, you attack Christianity and defend Islam.



Not what I said, but that is probably about the running average. Women are stoned every day in Islamic countries, do you deny this happens?
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Well, a couple of things here. If I say that Islam has had violent extremists throughout history, and then say that Christianity also has had violent extremists throughout history...how am I attacking Christianity & defending Islam?

You bigots don't think straight.

Also, you said another woman would be stoned before I finished an average length sentence. What were you trying to say, exactly, if not that women are stoned every 10 seconds or so?

And no, Dix - they are not stoned daily, or even weekly, or even monthly.
 
Alias said:
There is nothing to respect in Islam. It is nothing more than a tribal murderous cult from the dark ages used for centuries to control the masses. It was the Christian philosophy that civilized and modernized the world, not the Islamic philosophy.
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Thanks for at least saying what you really believe. You were all dodgy about it before.

Good to put the hate out there & not deny it.
 
Onceler said:
Thanks for at least saying what you really believe. You were all dodgy about it before.

Good to put the hate out there & not deny it.
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The only hate around here is for the truth and you're the one showing that. Let me explain it as simply as I can.

When a Christian gets violent for Jesus, he is not acting like Jeus.

When a muslim gets violent for Allah and Muhammed, he is acting exactly like his prophet.

I can't make it any simpler than that.
 
Onceler said:
Well, a couple of things here. If I say that Islam has had violent extremists throughout history, and then say that Christianity also has had violent extremists throughout history...how am I attacking Christianity & defending Islam?
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That's not what you said. It's the part about "JUST AS MANY" that I have a problem with, because it's not even close. Radical Ismamists have killed FAR FAR more people than radical Christians. The violent extremism from Islam is stronger today than it has ever been, while you must go back hundreds of years to find examples of violent extremism from Christianity...(i.e.; Spanish Inquisition and Crusades) So the two religions are not comparable in terms of the death and violence they are responsible for, and to argue this is foolish.

You bigots don't think straight.
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Again, calling people bigots when they aren't, is the first indication you are a bigot. It's why you keep feeling the compulsion to say that.

Also, you said another woman would be stoned before I finished an average length sentence. What were you trying to say, exactly, if not that women are stoned every 10 seconds or so?
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Well, it's really irrelevant to the argument we were having, it's a diversion, some insignificant thing you can use to take the focus away from what we were discussing, because you are losing that argument. I'll say it again, and you are welcome to present some goddamn evidence to disprove it, or shut the fuck up and accept it... before you finish reading this sentence, another woman will be stoned in an Islamic country.

And no, Dix - they are not stoned daily, or even weekly, or even monthly.
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Yes, they are! They are stoned routinely, across the Islamic world. YOU aren't always privy to the information, it's not like Muslim countries have free press! But in your fucked up little simple mind, these backwards Muslim countries are just like America, with all the same freedoms and rights, and I'm just spreading a bunch of lies on them.
 
Classic Dixie spin. People are stoned every 10 seconds or so in the Muslim world because he just knows it; not because of any stats or reporting. He just knows it.

What a backwards, hateful person you are, Dix. You base nothing on facts, and everything on hate.
 
Dixie said:
No, it is actually YOU who is the bigot.



Well, you only mentioned a few isolated incidents where any significant number of people were killed in the name of Christianity, after claiming that Christianity had killed more than any religion. I guess that makes you a special kind of idiot.



Now here is the golden nugget in the turd you laid.... Extremists have used religion for THEIR OWN agenda... this happens in every religion and ideology for that matter, it's kind of what extremists are all about. It is important that we distinguish between what is done in the name of a radical extremist's agenda, and what is done in the name of the religious belief itself. These are two completely different things, and to somehow dishonestly and erroneously equate the two, is just plain ignorant. This is where your bigotry is exposed, btw.



To deny there is not a distinction between the actions of a radical nutjob and the religious foundations they claim to represent, is indeed insane. We've now established you are an insane bigot. Congrats!




Oh, there is no hair to split at all when it comes to comparisons of Islam and Christianity, they are two entirely different religious philosophies. Christianity teaches peace, love, forgiveness... Islam teaches violence, hate, vengeance and death. The entire middle east is full of mass graves, with literally millions of bodies still buried, no telling how many in all... We may never really know the extent of the horrors, but just from what we have unearthed, we can only imagine it must be horrific. In the time it took you to read this post, numerous people in Muslim countries were killed for not obeying Islamic law. Every day, men women and children are killed or dismembered, because they didn't follow 5th century religious customs, according to some Mullah or Cleric. Before you finish reading this sentence, another Muslim woman was stoned to death for disobeying her husband or allowing herself to be raped.

....and here you are, defending that shit! Putting it on the same level as Christianity, a religion of forgiveness, salvation, redemption, love and peace?

Yep.... You're an Insane Bigot for sure.... you nailed that one!
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Dixie, I'm not diverting anything. This is what you are basing your argument on. Everything above - literally, everything - is pulled straight from your arse.

It's what you have done since I have known you. You don't research anything; you don't read anything (unless it's stump speeches you have lying around from politicians). You make up whatever you need to - completely out of thin air.

You want to prove what I just said wrong? Show me any stat, from anywhere, that shows that women are stoned every 10 seconds. Hell - I'll take daily, or even weekly. Show me anything.

You can't.
 
Dixie said:
As is always the case with bigots.
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Yes - bigots make up stats like "by the time you finish this sentence, another woman will be stoned" out of thin air, and then stand by it and say that someone is creating a diversion when they're questioned on it.

That's exactly what bigots do.

Dixie - I have seen you post for years. You are a bigot, through & through...
 
Onceler said:
Yes - bigots make up stats like "by the time you finish this sentence, another woman will be stoned" out of thin air, and then stand by it and say that someone is creating a diversion when they're questioned on it.

That's exactly what bigots do.

Dixie - I have seen you post for years. You are a bigot, through & through...
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You can't grasp a simple concept. That concept is Christianity and Islam are not equal. Christianity is good and Islam is evil. Only a bigot who understands neither one would not be able to grasp such a simple concept.
 
Onceler said:
Yes - bigots make up stats like "by the time you finish this sentence, another woman will be stoned" out of thin air, and then stand by it and say that someone is creating a diversion when they're questioned on it.

That's exactly what bigots do.

Dixie - I have seen you post for years. You are a bigot, through & through...
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Actually, bigots tend to have plenty of stats to back up whatever crazy view they hold, and don't mind showing you. It is from these stats they create a series of 'if/then' arguments, which conclude in their bigoted view. I haven't done any of that, I don't care what you want to believe. I have no need to convince you by presenting stats or whatever, as if there are reliable stats to back up what I said. Oh yeah... you jumped on that with both feet, because YOU are the bigot... it's important for you to have stats on your side! Therefore, it must be important to Dixie... well, guess what? It's not, because I am not bigoted like you. Like most people who aren't bigoted, I can accept rhetorical statements for the point they are intended to make, and I don't feel compelled to dissect them and derail the argument..... because, I am not a bigot like you.

Before you can read this thread, hundreds of people will be stoned across the Islamic world.
 
It is nice to finally hear you admit that you don't care at all about facts. I mean, we all knew that, but still, it's good to hear you say it.
 
Onceler said:
It is nice to finally hear you admit that you don't care at all about facts. I mean, we all knew that, but still, it's good to hear you say it.
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When are you going to accept the fact that the Koran is a book of hate and bigotry? Jesus was a man of love and peace who went around doing good. Muhammed was a thug who murdered, raped and pillaged and wrote a book of hate and bigotry.

Get real.
 
Alias said:
When are you going to accept the fact that the Koran is a book of hate and bigotry? Jesus was a man of love and peace who went around doing good. Muhammed was a thug who murdered, raped and pillaged and wrote a book of hate and bigotry.

Get real.
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I'm a huge fan of JC. But Mohammed was alright, as well.

Like most of the greats, both of them have had their words miswritten & misrepresented over the years, to support a variety of agendas that neither would agree with.
 
Onceler said:
I'm a huge fan of JC. But Mohammed was alright, as well.

Like most of the greats, both of them have had their words miswritten & misrepresented over the years, to support a variety of agendas that neither would agree with.
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Ah, so you just claim everything Ive presented is miswritten, and everything youve presented, all 3 or 4 verses about jesus with a sword and burning sticks, is not miswritten. You kind of just reject reality and replace it with your own. How do you determine mohammad was all right if you just dismiss, anything recorded about him to be miswritten.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

[2.244] And fight in the way of Allah,...

[2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

[3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

[3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

[4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

[4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them,
 
Onceler said:
I'm a huge fan of JC. But Mohammed was alright, as well.

Like most of the greats, both of them have had their words miswritten & misrepresented over the years, to support a variety of agendas that neither would agree with.
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Oh my God, man. Muhammed raped, pillaged, murdered, had sex with children, and spread his religion with the sword. Perhaps I missed something. Can you tell us what Muhammed did that was honorable?

When Jesus talked about a sword, he was speaking figuratively about the Word of God, the "sword of the spirit". When Muhammed talks about a sword and chopping off heads, he means exactly what he says.

Do you understand that?
 
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