Expanding the Map: Asians not Latinos

[tsuke]

https://tsukesthoughts.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/expanding-the-map-asians-not-latinos/

Expanding the Map: Asians not Latinos

In the aftermath of the Romney election, the Republican establishment came to one conclusion. We must get Latinos! This was thought to be the only path to expanding the Republican tent.

Make no mistake this is not an electoral strategy. Anyone can see how that this would be counterproductive as one. This is a method to force the Republican electorate to move left on the issue of illegal immigration. The Republican establishment has always been to the left of its base on that issue as the donor class needs the excess labor to keep wages low. While the base was against it as they want more available jobs for Americans. The
autopsy was meant as an ultimatum to the base. Move left on the issue or never see another Republican President again. This was of course shattered by Trump.

Compatibility

The Chinese have a saying, "Do not trample over old friends in your rush to make new". In order to gain new voters in this demographic would mean that the Republicans would have to take positions its base does not want which would make it lose its core voters. For every vote gained the Republicans would lose one as well.

To convince voters this was a good idea Latinos were sold as "natural conservatives" mainly because of their highly religious nature. The Catholic Church being fairly popular in their home countries. The strategists fail to inform the base that the teachings of latin American churches fall heavily on the side of liberation theology which is used to push a
socialist agenda. If anything they would be natural democrats.

The Republican party does have to expand its tent. After all we have won so many seats already we would need voters in new areas to win more. This will not be accomplished with Latinos but with Asians.

In the 2016 presidential election Asians and Latinos both voted 65% democrat and 29% Republican. There is just as much potential for growth here as there is in Latinos.

Asians

Asians are the natural target for party expansion because you do not have to take any new policy positions to attract them. You just have to expand on positions that your base is already in favor of.

The best example of this is affirmative action. The Republican base, who is mostly white, is against this as it negatively impacts them. What democrats don't want people to find out is that Asians are even more negatively impacted by affirmative action than whites are. A recent study found that while blacks and hispanics gained points due to affirmative actions and whites had no change Asians actually lost 50 points in their SAT's due to affirmative action. Couple this with the fact that asians are very competitive when it comes to the educational accomplishments of their children and you have an issue that is guaranteed to attract them.

In the case of employment Democrats have always tried to make the case for more minorities in the technology field. A field currently dominated by whites and you guessed it asians. Hiring more blacks and latinos means lost opportunities for asians.

In terms of immigration they are also the most likely beneficiaries of something like the raise act. Most of the applicants would already either speak perfectly good english (being involved in call centers) or are among the wealthy in Japan, China, or Korea which you would want to bring in anyway.

It has been argued that Republicans need to attract Latinos because they reside in swing states. Yet Republicans are already winning those states with their current level of support from latinos. Exerting effort to attract asians to the party would allow it to expand into other areas. Equally important since they vote for democrats at the same rate as latinos it would serve to break up the democrat coalition.

Conclusion

It is a lie fed to us by the Republican establishment that we have to move left on illegal immigration to win elections. We already have a demographic that is a perfect natural fit for the Republican party. We just have to reach out to them.

 

[dukkha]

you guys keep marginalizing elections and you'l lbe extinct.. stop thinking of immigration as "left and right"
think of it as secure or insecure - stop demonizing those who cross (I include Trump here) looking for better job.

Instead stress order, and fairness ( to those who go thru process )and security

 

[tsuke]

you guys keep marginalizing elections and you'l lbe extinct.. stop thinking of immigration as "left and right"
think of it as secure or insecure - stop demonizing those who cross (I include Trump here) looking for better job.

Instead stress order, and fairness ( to those who go thru process )and security

that not the point. The point is republicans do not have to do give up their core values to attract new voters. They just have to double down on things like affirmative action which are hurting some members of the democrat base to draw them in. Just like trump doubled down on illegal immigration and trade to draw in the union working class vote.

 

[archives]

that not the point. The point is republicans do not have to do give up their core values to attract new voters. They just have to double down on things like affirmative action which are hurting some members of the democrat base to draw them in. Just like trump doubled down on illegal immigration and trade to draw in the union working class vote.

In other words, demogogue issues, hell, the right wing media has been doing that for decades, why explain complex problems when you have a scapegoat available, problem with that approach is that eventually everyone sees thru it

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Asians share our political views, the more asian a place is the more liberal it is. You've turned off multiple generations of minorities and now you have no choice but trying to chase higher and higher percentages of the dwindling white share of the pie.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Plus most asians tend to live in already heavily blue states... so you brought the Democratic vote in Hawaii and California slightly down, whoopdie fucking doo.

 

[cawacko]

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Expanding the Map: Asians not Latinos

In the aftermath of the Romney election, the Republican establishment came to one conclusion. We must get Latinos! This was thought to be the only path to expanding the Republican tent.

Make no mistake this is not an electoral strategy. Anyone can see how that this would be counterproductive as one. This is a method to force the Republican electorate to move left on the issue of illegal immigration. The Republican establishment has always been to the left of its base on that issue as the donor class needs the excess labor to keep wages low. While the base was against it as they want more available jobs for Americans. The
autopsy was meant as an ultimatum to the base. Move left on the issue or never see another Republican President again. This was of course shattered by Trump.

Compatibility

The Chinese have a saying, "Do not trample over old friends in your rush to make new". In order to gain new voters in this demographic would mean that the Republicans would have to take positions its base does not want which would make it lose its core voters. For every vote gained the Republicans would lose one as well.

To convince voters this was a good idea Latinos were sold as "natural conservatives" mainly because of their highly religious nature. The Catholic Church being fairly popular in their home countries. The strategists fail to inform the base that the teachings of latin American churches fall heavily on the side of liberation theology which is used to push a
socialist agenda. If anything they would be natural democrats.

The Republican party does have to expand its tent. After all we have won so many seats already we would need voters in new areas to win more. This will not be accomplished with Latinos but with Asians.

In the 2016 presidential election Asians and Latinos both voted 65% democrat and 29% Republican. There is just as much potential for growth here as there is in Latinos.

Asians

Asians are the natural target for party expansion because you do not have to take any new policy positions to attract them. You just have to expand on positions that your base is already in favor of.

The best example of this is affirmative action. The Republican base, who is mostly white, is against this as it negatively impacts them. What democrats don't want people to find out is that Asians are even more negatively impacted by affirmative action than whites are. A recent study found that while blacks and hispanics gained points due to affirmative actions and whites had no change Asians actually lost 50 points in their SAT's due to affirmative action. Couple this with the fact that asians are very competitive when it comes to the educational accomplishments of their children and you have an issue that is guaranteed to attract them.

In the case of employment Democrats have always tried to make the case for more minorities in the technology field. A field currently dominated by whites and you guessed it asians. Hiring more blacks and latinos means lost opportunities for asians.

In terms of immigration they are also the most likely beneficiaries of something like the raise act. Most of the applicants would already either speak perfectly good english (being involved in call centers) or are among the wealthy in Japan, China, or Korea which you would want to bring in anyway.

It has been argued that Republicans need to attract Latinos because they reside in swing states. Yet Republicans are already winning those states with their current level of support from latinos. Exerting effort to attract asians to the party would allow it to expand into other areas. Equally important since they vote for democrats at the same rate as latinos it would serve to break up the democrat coalition.

Conclusion

It is a lie fed to us by the Republican establishment that we have to move left on illegal immigration to win elections. We already have a demographic that is a perfect natural fit for the Republican party. We just have to reach out to them.

This is Fvcking retarded not to mention no minorities want to join the populist alt right

 

[tsuke]

This is Fvcking retarded not to mention no minorities want to join the populist alt right

Republicans will have a lot easier time appealing to asians than latinos. The positions their base wants already benefit the asians.

 

[dukkha]

Republicans will have a lot easier time appealing to asians than latinos. The positions their base wants already benefit the asians.

I don't think you should marginalize any demographic-and like I mentioned above, you Republicans need to overcome media NOISE with some clarity and truth and not try to use identity politics like the Dems rely on.
That's their sacred cow. they play it best, change the topic

 

[cawacko]

I don't think you should marginalize any demographic-and like I mentioned above, you Republicans need to overcome media NOISE with some clarity and truth and not try to use identity politics like the Dems rely on.
That's their sacred cow. they play it best, change the topic

He's not a republican. He's alt right. He's in his own little grouping offering horrible advice

 

[dukkha]

He's not a republican. He's alt right. He's in his own little grouping offering horrible advice

Curious as to what a Republican actually IS these days..all i see are #neverTrump establishments types
or Trump-peeps like me who are "just renting" the party.

 

[tsuke]

I don't think you should marginalize any demographic-and like I mentioned above, you Republicans need to overcome media NOISE with some clarity and truth and not try to use identity politics like the Dems rely on.
That's their sacred cow. they play it best, change the topic

You use issues to divide the oppositions base all the time. It happened with trade and immigration and the unions voting for trump. Pushing hard against affirmative action and highlighting how it negatively impacts asians will cause Democrats to lose one of their pet minorities.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

He's not a republican. He's alt right. He's in his own little grouping offering horrible advice

what crawled up your ass? I don't think his point is "fucking retarded" - I am not sure if it is entirely correct but I don't think it's so off the reservation that it doesn't merit consideration. Lets not kid ourselves parties (mostly democrats) have been using identiy politics. This is just another way of looking at it.

Watermark brings up the best point though in that most asians are concentrated in blue states, so the effect might be negligible vs. say getting hispanics in a state like new mexico or arizona.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

I wonder how long it will be before the idea of being more inclusive to asians becomes racist.

 

[Bill]

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Expanding the Map: Asians not Latinos

In the aftermath of the Romney election, the Republican establishment came to one conclusion. We must get Latinos! This was thought to be the only path to expanding the Republican tent.

Make no mistake this is not an electoral strategy. Anyone can see how that this would be counterproductive as one. This is a method to force the Republican electorate to move left on the issue of illegal immigration. The Republican establishment has always been to the left of its base on that issue as the donor class needs the excess labor to keep wages low. While the base was against it as they want more available jobs for Americans. The
autopsy was meant as an ultimatum to the base. Move left on the issue or never see another Republican President again. This was of course shattered by Trump.

Compatibility

The Chinese have a saying, "Do not trample over old friends in your rush to make new". In order to gain new voters in this demographic would mean that the Republicans would have to take positions its base does not want which would make it lose its core voters. For every vote gained the Republicans would lose one as well.

To convince voters this was a good idea Latinos were sold as "natural conservatives" mainly because of their highly religious nature. The Catholic Church being fairly popular in their home countries. The strategists fail to inform the base that the teachings of latin American churches fall heavily on the side of liberation theology which is used to push a
socialist agenda. If anything they would be natural democrats.

The Republican party does have to expand its tent. After all we have won so many seats already we would need voters in new areas to win more. This will not be accomplished with Latinos but with Asians.

In the 2016 presidential election Asians and Latinos both voted 65% democrat and 29% Republican. There is just as much potential for growth here as there is in Latinos.

Asians

Asians are the natural target for party expansion because you do not have to take any new policy positions to attract them. You just have to expand on positions that your base is already in favor of.

The best example of this is affirmative action. The Republican base, who is mostly white, is against this as it negatively impacts them. What democrats don't want people to find out is that Asians are even more negatively impacted by affirmative action than whites are. A recent study found that while blacks and hispanics gained points due to affirmative actions and whites had no change Asians actually lost 50 points in their SAT's due to affirmative action. Couple this with the fact that asians are very competitive when it comes to the educational accomplishments of their children and you have an issue that is guaranteed to attract them.

In the case of employment Democrats have always tried to make the case for more minorities in the technology field. A field currently dominated by whites and you guessed it asians. Hiring more blacks and latinos means lost opportunities for asians.

In terms of immigration they are also the most likely beneficiaries of something like the raise act. Most of the applicants would already either speak perfectly good english (being involved in call centers) or are among the wealthy in Japan, China, or Korea which you would want to bring in anyway.

It has been argued that Republicans need to attract Latinos because they reside in swing states. Yet Republicans are already winning those states with their current level of support from latinos. Exerting effort to attract asians to the party would allow it to expand into other areas. Equally important since they vote for democrats at the same rate as latinos it would serve to break up the democrat coalition.

Conclusion

It is a lie fed to us by the Republican establishment that we have to move left on illegal immigration to win elections. We already have a demographic that is a perfect natural fit for the Republican party. We just have to reach out to them.

Gee, I wonder why the smart ppl in the GOP never thought of this?? Maybe you should Email the RNC & let them know of your brilliant plan to save the grand OLD party...

 

[cawacko]

what crawled up your ass? I don't think his point is "fucking retarded" - I am not sure if it is entirely correct but I don't think it's so off the reservation that it doesn't merit consideration. Lets not kid ourselves parties (mostly democrats) have been using identiy politics. This is just another way of looking at it.

Watermark brings up the best point though in that most asians are concentrated in blue states, so the effect might be negligible vs. say getting hispanics in a state like new mexico or arizona.

Many Asians originally were republicans so it's not like this is some new idea. What's retarded is the idea of trying to win them over strictly by being anti AA. That's an alt right mindset

 

[tsuke]

Gee, I wonder why the smart ppl in the GOP never thought of this?? Maybe you should Email the RNC & let them know of your brilliant plan to save the grand OLD party...

because they are more interested in having the base accept open borders immigration than anything else.

 

[tsuke]

Plus most asians tend to live in already heavily blue states... so you brought the Democratic vote in Hawaii and California slightly down, whoopdie fucking doo.

the point of it was to win more congressional and senatorial seats not for presidential elections. As things are now republicans can already win swing states.

 

[tsuke]

I wonder how long it will be before the idea of being more inclusive to asians becomes racist.

it already is ^__^

 

[Bill]

because they are more interested in having the base accept open borders immigration than anything else.

& that has what to do w/ your brilliant plan??