Example of how Harris's 'tax the rich' plan won't work

T. A. Gardner

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Seems Jeff Bezos has sold billions in Amazon stock this year. He did so after moving from Washington state where there is a pretty massive state capital gains tax on such transactions, to Florida where there is no capital gains state tax. By doing so he saved himself hundreds of millions that Washington state lost out on, not to mention the loss of any other state income tax Bezos was paying.



I keep saying the rich won't pay what they see as an unfair tax rate on themselves, they'll move elsewhere. Bezos did just that, leaving a blue Democrat, Leftist run state, for a red, Republican run one.
 
What? Not one Leftist on this board will defend Harris's fucked up economic plan?
Aren't YOU talking STATE taxes NOT Federal taxes?
" Seems Jeff Bezos has sold billions in Amazon stock this year. He did so after moving from Washington state where there is a pretty massive state capital gains tax on such transactions, to Florida where there is no capital gains state tax. By doing so he saved himself hundreds of millions that Washington state lost out on, not to mention the loss of any other state income tax Bezos was paying."

YOU do know they are different don't you?
I don't want to be the one to break it to you BUT the President / vice President of the USA does NOT have anything to do with States taxes.
 
Aren't YOU talking STATE taxes NOT Federal taxes?
" Seems Jeff Bezos has sold billions in Amazon stock this year. He did so after moving from Washington state where there is a pretty massive state capital gains tax on such transactions, to Florida where there is no capital gains state tax. By doing so he saved himself hundreds of millions that Washington state lost out on, not to mention the loss of any other state income tax Bezos was paying."

YOU do know they are different don't you?
I don't want to be the one to break it to you BUT the President / vice President of the USA does NOT have anything to do with States taxes.
Yes, I am. Bezos left Washington state, moving to Florida, to avoid Washington's very high state taxes. In doing so, he avoided over half-a-billion in taxes. The same thing applies to federal taxes if they are raised to a point where the rich think they're unfair.

Britain and France both in the last decade or so did exactly that and millionaires and billionaires living in those countries moved elsewhere in droves. They left. Tax revenue went down because of it. The Left doesn't get it. You cannot soak the rich for money because they have the smarts and money to leave and go somewhere else.

I hate to break it to you, but you're stupid, really stupid. Harris is proposing to do what Washington state (and California, among others) has already done. It won't work. The rich will leave rather than pay up and then she'll be wondering why tax revenues are going down instead of up.
 
The Rich and Elite never pay the rate of taxes that the middle and lower classes pay. Ever.

If you are a billionaire Dairy Farm owner, and the Federal government increases your taxes by 20%, then the Billionaire just raises the cost of a Gallon of Milk by 30%, gives himself a nice pay increase, and passes the 20% new tax on to the middle class consumer.

The Poor, the Muslim Asylum Imports, and the Illegals, get their milk for free, from government programs.

The few remaining middle class, just sacrifice any vacation, going to a movie, or buying a newer car, in order to pay the 30% increase in the cost of a gallon a milk, because their two kids need the milk to grow strong bones and teeth. (Or have no kids!)

The Poor, the Muslim Asylum Imports and Illegals don't pay the tax, the Rich don't pay the tax.

The middle class always ends up paying the taxes!
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After a few decades of this crap, there is no more middle class, just the poor, who all get their milk from government programs.

The middle class is GONE. So, the Government, in a socialist "Revolution", seizes the all means of production, including the above Dairy Farms.

Then the Government starts deciding who gets milk, and who doesn't, based on Identity Politics Birth-Guilt, so the people who have a vague similar appearance to someone who did something bad 200 years before they were born, and deemed "Guilty by Similar Appearance" (skin-tone) , and are denied Milk.

And Medicine...

And Education...

And Housing...

And a Winter Coat...

And the civil-war starts...

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After a few decades of this crap, there is no more middle class, just the poor, who all get their milk from government programs.

The middle class is GONE. So, the Government, in a socialist "Revolution", seizes the all means of production, including the above Dairy Farms.

Then the Government starts deciding who gets milk, and who doesn't, based on Identity Politics Birth-Guilt, so the people who have a vague similar appearance to someone who did something bad 200 years before they were born, and deemed "Guilty by Similar Appearance" (skin-tone) , and are denied Milk.

And Medicine...

And Education...

And Housing...

And a Winter Coat...

And the civil-war starts...

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There will be the slaves and their jailers, who will be brutal because they are sadists and there are too many humans on this planet.....they are more than fine with trouble makers being dead.

The piles of bodies will be massive this time.
 
A working class family can live without owning more than one cell phone in a household. At least one is needed, because Mom and Dad work, and their employer needs to be able to call them, to ask them to come on-shift early today, because Jose or Rita called out sick. But they don't need two cell phones, or one for each of the kids either.

They have to buy Milk, but they don't have to buy fruit juice or soda.

They have to have a PC, for the kids to do some homework assignments, and to file their taxes, apply for licenses and pay bills. But they do NOT need to have an X-box or play-station.

They have to watch the weather report, to see how to dress the kids for school, but they don't need Cable TV, or NetFlex, or Disney+

They need to eat, but they don't really need to eat from Dion's a pizza and a family salad, on Sally's Birthday. They can eat just re-fried beans on a corn tortilla, with a bit of fake cheese, made mostly from hydrogenated-corn-oil... which will cause intestinal cancer by age 50... but they're working class, and easily replaced by the next wave of illegals.

The point is, there are things most middle class have now, that are actually optional. When the Rich-Elite who owns all the regional Dairy Farms, gets taxed 20% more, he just passes the cost on to the consumer.

But the other shoe to drop, is that as the Milk-Guy passes on the cost, the family stops Cable, Netflex, the second, third and forth phone, the X-Box subscription, the night eating out on a birthday... they ONLY buy the absolute essentials.

So all those employers, Netflix, Dion's all start laying off people. And as each gets RIF'd, the household becomes another living on the Government Dole.

So the whole damn thing feeds on itself, and instead of increasing the total tax generated, the attempt at "20% tax on the Rich" actually lowers revenue, as it destroys the Middle Class.

Soon, there is an "Only the absolute Essentials Economy". The fruit juice farmer lays off its workers. The Soda Bottler lays off its workers. Dion's lays off its workers. Disney lays off its workers. All because milk is a Essential for growing kids, and now costs $14 a Gallon.

All of the laid off workers become households getting their Milk from a Government Program, which is so inefficient, that to the few remaining tax payers, each gallon of milk given to the "Poor" costs $42 per gallon.

So now they need even MORE Taxes on the Rich. But those Rich, working at Dion's Corp, and the Fruit Farm Corp, and Disney+ HQ, are not so Rich anymore, so they are paying allot less in Taxes.

Everyone is Miserable, including those who used be the Wealthy Elite CEOs who worked at the Corp Management level at Netflix, Dion's, Disney+ and X-box.

The middle class is gone. You have the Hyper-Rich Elites, and the masses living on the Dole. Only Essential Economic Activity remains, such as producing Milk to sell to the Government for Redistribution.

In the attempt to "Tax the Rich", the Leftie idiots just killed all economic activity in the society!

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The Rich and Elite never pay the rate of taxes that the middle and lower classes pay. Ever.

If you are a billionaire Dairy Farm owner, and the Federal government increases your taxes by 20%, then the Billionaire just raises the cost of a Gallon of Milk by 30%, gives himself a nice pay increase, and passes the 20% new tax on to the middle class consumer.

That only works some of the time. In England right now, the Leftist government just imposed a series of massive new taxes on landlords. They can't raise rents to cover the new costs and many are looking at an inability to rent their properties. So, they're selling them off instead creating a massive shortage of affordable rental properties.

The landlords make money, and the renters get screwed.
The few remaining middle class, just sacrifice any vacation, going to a movie, or buying a newer car, in order to pay the 30% increase in the cost of a gallon a milk, because their two kids need the milk to grow strong bones and teeth. (Or have no kids!)

The middle class shrinks to a point where what's left are those that are necessary to support the lavish lifestyles of the political leadership and ultra-rich. Everybody else lives in poverty.
 
The Rich and Elite never pay the rate of taxes that the middle and lower classes pay. Ever.

If you are a billionaire Dairy Farm owner, and the Federal government increases your taxes by 20%, then the Billionaire just raises the cost of a Gallon of Milk by 30%, gives himself a nice pay increase, and passes the 20% new tax on to the middle class consumer.

The Poor, the Muslim Asylum Imports, and the Illegals, get their milk for free, from government programs.

The few remaining middle class, just sacrifice any vacation, going to a movie, or buying a newer car, in order to pay the 30% increase in the cost of a gallon a milk, because their two kids need the milk to grow strong bones and teeth. (Or have no kids!)

The Poor, the Muslim Asylum Imports and Illegals don't pay the tax, the Rich don't pay the tax.

The middle class always ends up paying the taxes!
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Just like tariffs

The cost is passed on

That means when we tax the wealthy you should stop fucking complaining about it under your own idiot claims
 
Rightys are so ignorant. America's highway system was built when the top tax rate was in the 90s. They did not pay that much, but they paid a lot more. There were still rich people. The Repubs cut taxes on the wealthy and corporations since Reagan. We have created a wealth gap worse than the Gilded Age. Many people never have enough. There are billionaires using their money and power to get more from the American system.
Money-power, Power means getting all they can from tax payers. We are being looted.
 
Rightys are so ignorant. America's highway system was built when the top tax rate was in the 90s. They did not pay that much, but they paid a lot more. There were still rich people. The Repubs cut taxes on the wealthy and corporations since Reagan. We have created a wealth gap worse than the Gilded Age. Many people never have enough. There are billionaires using their money and power to get more from the American system.
Money-power, Power means getting all they can from tax payers. We are being looted.

In 2008---> Which of the two major political parties represents the interests and policies of the Elite?

In 2008--> Which of the two major political Parties represents the common, working class people?

Why are Taxes on the Rich in the interest of the Working class people?

Why are freebies for Obama Muslim Asylum people or for Illegals, paid for by huge increases in Taxes, which are paid for, in the end, by the working class... Why are the Freebies for Foreign Born Dole-ists in the interest of the Working Class People?

( The Freebies for American Citizen's who are now among the poor-unemployed, due to Illegals taking their job at half the wages, are used by the Were-Working-Class Americans. But, they'd be allot better off if they still had their job! )

Just because we are (or were) working class, does not mean we are STUPID!

We know the difference between a Tax (*sic on the Rich) and a Tariff.
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Seems Jeff Bezos has sold billions in Amazon stock this year. He did so after moving from Washington state where there is a pretty massive state capital gains tax on such transactions, to Florida where there is no capital gains state tax. By doing so he saved himself hundreds of millions that Washington state lost out on, not to mention the loss of any other state income tax Bezos was paying.



I keep saying the rich won't pay what they see as an unfair tax rate on themselves, they'll move elsewhere. Bezos did just that, leaving a blue Democrat, Leftist run state, for a red, Republican run one.
That's why I believe in a strong central government, not "states' rights."
We'll have to relieve him of his excess money at the national level.
 
That's why I believe in a strong central government, not "states' rights."
We'll have to relieve him of his excess money at the national level.
ohhhhh, I see...

And there is no insider trading kick-backs to Congressman.

And there has never been special tax exemptions passed for the wealthy Elites at a Federal Level.

Oh no, it is never happened, not even once.

Who is Nancy Pelosi again?
 
What? Not one Leftist on this board will defend Harris's fucked up economic plan?
Where have you been, there is a reason individuals move to Florida and corporations flee to Delaware, it is nothing new, but those are State tax, not Federal, and corporations, just like individuals, don’t pay the rate they are assigned, Trump is proof of that facf. Also guarantee Bezos won’t die in Florida, it’s death and estate tax make up for some of the income lost
 
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