Evidence dump October 26, 2017
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MAGA MAN
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"Trump has approved the long scheduled release..."
I don't buy the single shooter explanation, but the LBJ theory is too conspiratorial, what will be interesting is to see how much Garrison was correct or if his investigation was just bogus
MAGA MAN
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LBJ hated Kennedy, and had him killed because he wanted to be president. RFK collected enough evidence so LBJ had him killed too.
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Too melodramatic for me, I'll wait to see what is released
MAGA MAN
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My age is inconsequential of the validity of my theory. LBJ had means, motive and opportunity. The fact that he refused to run for re-election in '68 adds to my theory that the evidence against him was overwhelming, he was shown it and offered a deal that he couldn't refuse.
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Ted Cruz's father was the 2nd shooter.
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Why didn't they show him the evidence in 1964 and stop him running for his first term, any idea?
MAGA MAN
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They didn't have it all buttoned up yet.
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Got it - the evidence wasn't watertight enough in '64.
I've been reading that the Soviets wanted to implicate LBJ, in case anyone tried to blame them, I guess.
Do we have any idea who carried out LBJ's plan? He couldn't have done it all himself.
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There exists no solid proof of any kind that LBJ had anything to do with JFK's assassination, what you are exchanging is pure conjuncture without even the whisper of evidence, you might as well say Jackie Kennedy did it because she caught JFK fooling around
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MAGA MAN
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LBJ was from TX, had his tentacles in organized crime operations in TX and LA, and the assassination took place in TX. My guess is the Mob. Jack Ruby also had ties to the Mob.
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Means, motive and opportunity. LBJ had all three.
LBJ had several elements supporting a role in the JFK assassination:
1. Huge ambition, almost maniacal, to be president.
2. His health made him conclude that his only chance to be president was quickly.
3. Some believe he had used criminal means to gain power, from falsifying an election even to the point of murder to protect himself.
4. He was at great odds with the Kennedys generally, and reportedly just miserable as Kennedy's VP, which changed when he became president.
5. There is evidence that while JFK wanted LBJ to never be president and was already discussing how to keep him off the ticket in 1968, Robert Kennedy as Attorney General was feeding information to a national magazine to publish a scandal on Johnson that was scheduled for publication - and of course cancelled - the week after the assassination to drive him off the ticket in 1964. It's believed the assassination protected LBJ from criminal prosecution. The Bobby Baker scandal was ready to explode.
Jackie: ""Jack said it to me sometimes. He said, 'Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon were president?'""
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Jacq...s-jfk-feared-lbj-presidency/story?id=14477930
6. LBJ's differences with Kennedy could be bitter. In particular, JFK sent LBJ to Vietnam where he didn't want to go - and LBJ formed a close relationship with the dictator president, Diem. Against Kennedy's wishes LBJ told the press that Diem was the 'Winston
Churchill of Southeast Asia', giving high praise at the time Kennedy was trying to pressure Diem to reform. LBJ was bitter when Diem was assassinated in a US-backed coup and later said he suspected JFK had been assassinated in revenge for that.
7. Small anecdote - I recall a very odd filmed interview where LBJ referred to President Kennedy as "that fellow" in a way that was pretty shocking for a VP to refer to the president. Unfortunately I can't quickly find a link to it.
8. The Soviets reportedly believed LBJ had been involved.
9. LBJ had much better relations with the security establishment than JFK - as shown by his agreeing to the war in Vietnam they wanted that Kennedy refused.
In short, a lot of the pieces for LBJ to be involved fall into place.
Having said that, these are just some of the pieces - motive is not proof.
They move the question from the realm of the absurd and extremely unlikely much closer to plausible - but not much more.
It seems more likely to me that if there were a conspiracy, LBJ's role ranged from none to a quite hands-off role.
1. Huge ambition, almost maniacal, to be president.
2. His health made him conclude that his only chance to be president was quickly.
3. Some believe he had used criminal means to gain power, from falsifying an election even to the point of murder to protect himself.
4. He was at great odds with the Kennedys generally, and reportedly just miserable as Kennedy's VP, which changed when he became president.
5. There is evidence that while JFK wanted LBJ to never be president and was already discussing how to keep him off the ticket in 1968, Robert Kennedy as Attorney General was feeding information to a national magazine to publish a scandal on Johnson that was scheduled for publication - and of course cancelled - the week after the assassination to drive him off the ticket in 1964. It's believed the assassination protected LBJ from criminal prosecution. The Bobby Baker scandal was ready to explode.
Jackie: ""Jack said it to me sometimes. He said, 'Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon were president?'""
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Jacq...s-jfk-feared-lbj-presidency/story?id=14477930
6. LBJ's differences with Kennedy could be bitter. In particular, JFK sent LBJ to Vietnam where he didn't want to go - and LBJ formed a close relationship with the dictator president, Diem. Against Kennedy's wishes LBJ told the press that Diem was the 'Winston
Churchill of Southeast Asia', giving high praise at the time Kennedy was trying to pressure Diem to reform. LBJ was bitter when Diem was assassinated in a US-backed coup and later said he suspected JFK had been assassinated in revenge for that.
7. Small anecdote - I recall a very odd filmed interview where LBJ referred to President Kennedy as "that fellow" in a way that was pretty shocking for a VP to refer to the president. Unfortunately I can't quickly find a link to it.
8. The Soviets reportedly believed LBJ had been involved.
9. LBJ had much better relations with the security establishment than JFK - as shown by his agreeing to the war in Vietnam they wanted that Kennedy refused.
In short, a lot of the pieces for LBJ to be involved fall into place.
Having said that, these are just some of the pieces - motive is not proof.
They move the question from the realm of the absurd and extremely unlikely much closer to plausible - but not much more.
It seems more likely to me that if there were a conspiracy, LBJ's role ranged from none to a quite hands-off role.