Europe can Stop Lecturing Us Now...

Wow I am surprised they really try to curtail those people even limiting their freedom of speech.

But yeah Germany at least needs to shut the fuck up when talking about how bad we are.
 
Troglodyte27 said:
Wow, I thought that NAzis couldn't run in Germany. Were the laws changed?
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there must be ways to get around that law: hence, the word "neo-nazis".

Simply "relabel" and repackage yourself, and voila! You a "different" party than the Hitler nazis.
 
Yikes!

Well, I'm scratching Germany off of any list I've had, have or ever plan on having to visit.
 
Germany is far more conservative than the US in many ways. Many people mistake controlling every single part of your nations economy for liberalism - it isn't. Most of Europe is, in fact, except for the Scandanavian nations which are the bastion of liberalism in the world.

But these guys are only getting about 6% of the seates - just barely above the threshold. They aren't going to have any part any government at all. Germans and most Europeans simply carry that irrational immigrant hate to a ridiculous level. The NDP, if the political compass I'm looking at is correct, is actually more left than the social democrats in economics, but they're stuck way at the top in the area of authoritarianism. Right next to hitler, actually...
 
Watermark said:
Germany is far more conservative than the US in many ways. Many people mistake controlling every single part of your nations economy for liberalism - it isn't. Most of Europe is, in fact, except for the Scandanavian nations which are the bastion of liberalism in the world.

But these guys are only getting about 6% of the seates - just barely above the threshold. They aren't going to have any part any government at all. Germans and most Europeans simply carry that irrational immigrant hate to a ridiculous level. The NDP, if the political compass I'm looking at is correct, is actually more left than the social democrats in economics, but they're stuck way at the top in the area of authoritarianism. Right next to hitler, actually...
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A realization that Muslims went ape-shit in France for a couple weeks, destroyed ~1500 cars, and throw gas bombs at police is certainly an irrational reason to fear / hate immigrants.
 
Troglodyte27 said:
A realization that Muslims went ape-shit in France for a couple weeks, destroyed ~1500 cars, and throw gas bombs at police is certainly an irrational reason to fear / hate immigrants.
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The immigrants are that way because Europeans refuse to accomadate them and hate them. Can't you see that violence not only happens to white Christians, but exists in cycles?
 
YOu think they just randomly woke up one day and said "Hey, the French are good guys who respect me and don't discriminate against me at all, but I'm going to blow up their cars"? YOu seem like the kind of person who'd side with the racists whenever the blacks rioted in the south. It's not their place, you'd say, we need to get out the hose.

The reason those things don't happen in the US is because we accept our immigrants. The French blame every problem in the world on immigrants, and have sense they came, and refuse to recongnize them as individuals and not mere groups that get in their way. The bastards deserve the riots.
 
Watermark said:
The immigrants are that way because Europeans refuse to accomadate them and hate them. Can't you see that violence not only happens to white Christians, but exists in cycles?
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Why should the country to which the immigrant has come accomodate the immigrant? When in Rome... When a load of shit you're trying to peddle. Oh, the Europeans MADE them that way. Rubbish!
 
Watermark said:
YOu think they just randomly woke up one day and said "Hey, the French are good guys who respect me and don't discriminate against me at all, but I'm going to blow up their cars"? YOu seem like the kind of person who'd side with the racists whenever the blacks rioted in the south. It's not their place, you'd say, we need to get out the hose.

The reason those things don't happen in the US is because we accept our immigrants. The French blame every problem in the world on immigrants, and have sense they came, and refuse to recongnize them as individuals and not mere groups that get in their way. The bastards deserve the riots.
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The blacks were working for an equality of rights, not to force the society at large to overturn to their will. Blacks in the south were in fact citizens, immigrants - sorry, I feel their want and desire to escape the hellholes from which they came - do not have the same legal standing. They can choose to go home when ever they want.
 
Troglodyte27 said:
The blacks were working for an equality of rights, not to force the society at large to overturn to their will. Blacks in the south were in fact citizens, immigrants - sorry, I feel their want and desire to escape the hellholes from which they came - do not have the same legal standing. They can choose to go home when ever they want.
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I believe they were legal immigrants, most of them. It doesn't matter to the French. If a crime happens in France, they immediately start looking for Algerians. Their oppression of Algerians caused them to be poor and caused them to resent the French, and such communities always have high crime levels. And in response they just do more of the same to the Algerians. It's retarded. They need to just get along like we do in America.
 
Troglodyte27 said:
Why should the country to which the immigrant has come accomodate the immigrant? When in Rome... When a load of shit you're trying to peddle. Oh, the Europeans MADE them that way. Rubbish!
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OH! The whites MADE the blacks poor! RUBBISH!

Nations do not have rights, individuals do. As I should accomadate my neighbor they should accomadate their fellow human beings, not show a closed mind. They have no right.
 
Watermark said:
I believe they were legal immigrants, most of them. It doesn't matter to the French. If a crime happens in France, they immediately start looking for Algerians. Their oppression of Algerians caused them to be poor and caused them to resent the French, and such communities always have high crime levels. And in response they just do more of the same to the Algerians. It's retarded. They need to just get along like we do in America.
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So the French got tired of being robbed by the Algerians and now that the Algerians are ripping off other Algerians, suddenly it's a bad thing and we should understand their plight. They should look at their fellow Algerian that's ripping them off, not the French. In areas with lots of Algerains = high crime, in areas with less of them = not so much, but the French are to blame nonetheless. The whole "society made me" garbage has never flown with me.
 
Watermark said:
OH! The whites MADE the blacks poor! RUBBISH!

Nations do not have rights, individuals do. As I should accomadate my neighbor they should accomadate their fellow human beings, not show a closed mind. They have no right.
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A Nation has the right to a secure border, to defend its sovereign territory, etc. Nations certainly do have "rights." (Depending on the definition of the word.) Do you go over to your neighbors home and demand that he act a cetain way for your benefit? Feel free to do as you please in your home.
 
Troglodyte27 said:
So the French got tired of being robbed by the Algerians and now that the Algerians are ripping off other Algerians, suddenly it's a bad thing and we should understand their plight. They should look at their fellow Algerian that's ripping them off, not the French. In areas with lots of Algerains = high crime, in areas with less of them = not so much, but the French are to blame nonetheless. The whole "society made me" garbage has never flown with me.
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It's not the Algerians.

It's the poor. Many Algerians simply happen to be poor. Maybe if they want to stop crime they should just kill poor people. hey, it worked for the Natzi's...
 
Troglodyte27 said:
A Nation has the right to a secure border, to defend its sovereign territory, etc. Nations certainly do have "rights." (Depending on the definition of the word.) Do you go over to your neighbors home and demand that he act a cetain way for your benefit? Feel free to do as you please in your home.
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Equating a nation to a home is obscene. A home is much more than a nation, and it is protected by rights. All a nation does is infringe on rights. If an immigrant owns land, he owns it, it doesn't matter if you hate the color of his skin or the fact that he does your job better than you, it's not like he's forcing anything on anyone.
 
The immigrants are that way because Europeans refuse to accomadate them and hate them.

Have you ever been to Europe, Watermark?

We have huge immigrant populations in the UK and EU and the vast majority are accomodated well. The 'hate' is reserved for the right only, the vast majority of Europeans feel no hate for immigrants.

I might remind you of the 'irrationality' involved with Americans whenever Mexicans loom on the horizon.

You don't get armed militias forming in Europe to fight away immigrants....
 
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