evince
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Good thing we didn’t cut off Europe during the WWII huh
EU sends 50 billion euros to Ukraine
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Good thing we didn’t cut off Europe during the WWII huh
evince
Truthmatters
Yeap
Most people who were hesitant will think exactly this
Then we can stay the course like we did in history which worked out GREAT for us and the world
You are a prime example of someone who spent their entire life smoking pot and dropping acid. You sure dont know much do you? If it werent for google I dont think you would be capable of finding your own ass with both hands.
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Truthmatters
Yes we know you hate facts
Especially fully documented ones that make you look like a puddle of shit stupid Putin whore
ExpressLane
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The US has given more than the entire EU. It is good to see the EU give some of their fair share.
I am being told that the EU plan is 4 years and will fund the Ukrainian government so that it does not fall...for the most part this is not military aid, that is to be provided by the US. Of course Europe no longer has hardly any military industrial complex....their ability to provide military aid is near zero.
serendipity
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It is essential that the West beats Russia, surely the lessons from history tell you that.
The West cannot afford to allow Russia to win its war against Ukraine
To preserve the rules-based international order and reduce the likelihood of fighting two wars in separate theatres, we must help Kyiv win
George Monastiriakos: The West cannot afford to allow Russia to win its war against Ukraine
To preserve the rules-based international order and reduce the likelihood of fighting two wars in separate theatres, we must help Kyiv win
The West must stop lying to itself. Moscow is fighting to win. Kyiv is doing the same. Either we want Ukraine to win, or we don’t. If we do, then we must get our act together immediately.
Politicians on both sides of the pond continue obstructing aid to Ukraine. Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, the Kremlin’s Trojan horse in Europe, has repeatedly blocked the European Union from sending financial assistance to Kyiv. Likewise, Republicans resort to every excuse in the book to block the White House from sending military aid to the Ukrainian armed forces.
Teams of lawyers and finance professionals based in EU member states like Cyprus have helped Russia avoid sanctions. Moscow has also circumvented export controls by using third countries like Armenia and Kyrgyzstan as entry points for sanctioned goods and materials.
The Kremlin has found ways to continue processing international financial transactions to facilitate the trade of sanctioned goods. Meanwhile, Russia’s shadow fleet, whose size grows with oil tankers sold by Greece’s shipping oligarchs, continues selling most of its seaborne crude for more than the $60 price cap imposed by the G7 and EU.
The EU, with a population of nearly 450 million and a $21-trillion economy, has failed to deliver on its promise to provide Ukraine with one-million artillery rounds. Not only has South Korea provided more ammunition to Ukraine than the EU, but famished and impoverished North Korea has provided one-million shells to Russia.
Even worse, nearly 10 years into the war, and almost 22 months since Russia’s full-scale invasion, western companies continue helping Moscow manufacture weapons. For example, many of the critical components for Russia’s Kalibr long-range cruise missiles that rain death on Ukrainian cities and civilian infrastructure are made with parts produced in, and provided by, the West.
The list of failures goes on and on. Whether these mistakes are made by the West to satisfy private western interests or as a means to appease Russia makes no difference on the battlefield: Russian President Vladimir Putin thanks them all the same for their thoughtful contributions to his war effort
Russia’s war against Ukraine is not only about Ukrainian sovereignty and self-determination. Putin’s mission is to destroy the rules-based international system that underwrites the West’s security and prosperity. He intends to replace it with a chaotic world order where the strong do as they please and the weak suffer what they must.
The West continues to be an economic powerhouse, while hostile states like Russia, Belarus, Iran, North Korea and Cuba are comparatively poor. Nevertheless, Moscow’s allies are meeting their commitments to the Kremlin, while isolationists and populists in the West act like we’re cash-strapped and incapable of sustaining our support for Ukraine.
The global balance of power, which favours the West, is unlikely to last forever — especially if we continue appeasing evil.
The best time to confront the enemies of the free world was yesterday. The next best moment to stand up for the rules-based international order is today, in Ukraine, by providing its armed forces with what they need to defeat Russia. Otherwise, more warmongers like Putin will be emboldened, the number of global crises will multiply and the West will have to fight wars it doesn’t want to fight.
If Russia succeeds against Ukraine, the best-case scenario for Europe would be the Baltic states, Poland, Romania and Finland requesting that NATO deploy reinforcements to their eastern borders. The worst-case scenario would be NATO finally fighting the war it was created for against Russia.
Responding to Moscow’s aggression in Ukraine with weakness will only embolden China to invade Taiwan. In fact, there are few conceivable ways for the People’s Liberation Army to begin that operation without launching pre-emptive strikes on U.S. forces at Okinawa, which would drag the U.S. and Japan into a war over the island’s fate.
The cost of defeating evil always increases over time. The West could’ve imposed crushing sanctions on Russia in 2008, when it invaded Georgia. Instead, Moscow was rewarded with Nord Stream 1 and the 2014 Winter Olympics.
Rather than fast-tracking Ukraine’s NATO membership after Russia’s invasion of Georgia, the West made excuses and responded to Moscow’s aggression with weakness. This culminated in the first invasion of Ukraine and the annexation of Ukrainian Crimea in 2014.
The West could’ve crippled Russia’s economy and turned Ukraine into a porcupine after 2014. Instead, Putin’s aggression was rewarded with Nord Stream 2 and the 2018 World Cup. The West also agreed to the Minsk agreements, intended to put a halt to the Donbas war, which set the stage for the 2022 invasion of Ukraine.
The West could’ve prevented this war a decade and a half ago. We failed repeatedly. Ukraine suffered the consequences.
Read more: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/th...o-allow-russia-to-win-its-war-against-ukraine
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ExpressLane
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Exactly. Now let's have an accurate accounting of where the money is going. I want every dollar/euro spent on killing Commies not lining some general's pockets.
Even if NATO went hard core with boots on the ground and trying to take control of the skies it is unlikely that NATO could beat Russia...Russia is too good and NATO is too deep into collapse.
The Germans a few years ago picked a new main rifle (to replace another deeply flawed weapon) which is complete shit....the testing was a sham...
I mean COME ON MAN!
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2024/01/30/german-army-assault-rifle-2/
I mean COME ON MAN!
https://www.thedefensepost.com/2024/01/30/german-army-assault-rifle-2/
The money spent on weapons is going to the West. For instance, when the USA ships artillery shells that are about to expire to Ukraine, and then buys from companies in the USA replacement shells, the money never leaves the USA.