EU moves to distinguish between Israel and its illegally occupied territory.

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The Israeli Foreign Ministry is working on a last minute push ahead of Monday's meeting of the European Union's Foreign Affairs Council, to halt a pending resolution that would more firmly distinguish Israel and the additional territory gained during the 1967 war, a report by the Israeli daily Haaretz reveals.


http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israe...9304-160115-european-union-settlements-israel
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Sooner or later the Israelis will be forced to withdraw to the internationally-recognised pre-1967 borders. The rule of international law is far , far more important to every country on earth than continuing to provide blanket support to a regime which attempts to flaunt the United Nations at every opportunity.
The UN- like it or not- has prevented a third world war which none of us would survive. It is absolutely essential that this is recognised when weighing the consequences of continued Israeli provocation and immaturity.
 
moon2012 said:
Sooner or later the Israelis will be forced to withdraw to the internationally-recognised pre-1967 borders. The rule of international law is far , far more important to every country on earth than continuing to provide blanket support to a regime which attempts to flaunt the United Nations at every opportunity.
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Ideally it would withdraw substantially, pay enormous reparations to the Arabs and Palestinians, and have its much of it's leadership sent to the Hague. The idea of a Jewish state (an entity which differentiates itself by race, religion, and nationality, etc., and then acts violently against those who won't/can't conform to its categories) is something that should be condemned and abandoned/destroyed.
 
moon2012 said:
Sooner or later the Israelis will be forced to withdraw to the internationally-recognised pre-1967 borders. The rule of international law is far , far more important to every country on earth than continuing to provide blanket support to a regime which attempts to flaunt the United Nations at every opportunity.
The UN- like it or not- has prevented a third world war which none of us would survive. It is absolutely essential that this is recognised when weighing the consequences of continued Israeli provocation and immaturity.
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Do you have insight in how they are going to "be forced to withdraw to the internationally-recognized pre-1967 borders"?

Maybe you can give the Arabs some lessons in how if you start shit, you lose shit. :D
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Do you have insight in how they are going to "be forced to withdraw to the internationally-recognized pre-1967 borders"?

Maybe you can give the Arabs some lessons in how if you start shit, you lose shit. :D
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It was the Europeans who gave the now-Israelis any reason to go into the region in the first place.
 
Rose said:
Ideally it would withdraw substantially, pay enormous reparations to the Arabs and Palestinians, and have its much of it's leadership sent to the Hague. The idea of a Jewish state (an entity which differentiates itself by race, religion, and nationality, etc., and then acts violently against those who won't/can't conform to its categories) is something that should be condemned and abandoned/destroyed.
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In which case Arab nation should pay enormous reparations to Israel for the 850,000 Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews that were forcibly ejected by them after 1948.
 
Borboletta said:
In which case Arab nation should pay enormous reparations to Israel for the 850,000 Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews that were forcibly ejected by them after 1948.
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Not to Israel, no- but there will, undoubtedly, be Jews who once lived peacefully in Arab states who, unlike those who left voluntarily as a result of Zionist propaganda, deserve to be compensated. Such victims should be treated as individuals , not as a form of bolt-on appendage to the Zionist dream of conquest.
The situation regarding the Palestinians driven from their homes is far more clear-cut. They , and their descendants , today form a diaspora of some six million people who are recognised as refugees and who are granted protection and rights under the auspices of the United Nations. Their compensation is already a matter of law as outlined in UN Resolution 194 of 1948
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_194
Members of this diaspora have kept detailed records of events which will form the basis of their individual legal claims and which must be tested against Zionist claims that they too left their Palestinian homes and property ' voluntarily '. Hearings will demand evidence- and theirs has been carefully preserved.

Everybody should bear in mind that Zionism adopted policies of brutal force and ethnic cleansing very early on . This is , indisputably, proven by the recorded speeches and writings of the doctrine's early promoters such as ben Gurion and Jabotinsky. The misfortunes which befell Jews living in Arab states in 1948 are directly subscribable to the European invasion of Palestine- without which the region and its indigenous people, both Muslim and Jewish, would be relatively peaceful today. This is not simple speculation. Jews live and prosper elsewhere all over the world, including in Iran. It is the doctrine of Zionism which is the barrel's rotten apple and it is the failure of the victors of WW2 to recognise this, as Rose points out, which has led to the situation which exists today.
Monday's EU vote, should it succeed in bolstering opposition to any Zionist claim to illegally occupied Palestinian territories, will form an important milestone in the road to justice for people all over the world- including Jews.
 
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Rose said:
It was the Europeans who gave the now-Israelis any reason to go into the region in the first place.
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Which has nothing to do with now, nor was it a thought out response to my post; so I guess you just wanted to see your words in a post. :dunno:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Do you have insight in how they are going to "be forced to withdraw to the internationally-recognized pre-1967 borders"?

Maybe you can give the Arabs some lessons in how if you start shit, you lose shit. :D
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Divestment was the tool which worked against Apartheid South Africa, that's why Israel is running scared about it right now and trying desperately to paint it as anti-semitic.
 
EU adopts resolution criticising Israeli settlement activity

The European Union has unanimously adopted a tough resolution criticising Israeli settlement activity in the occupied Palestinian territories, despite fierce efforts by Israel to persuade some EU members to block it.

The adoption of the document is the latest diplomatic setback for an increasingly isolated Israel after Netanyahu’s failure to derail the Iran nuclear deal, which came into force over the weekend.

Intended as a follow-up step to the EU’s decision last year to insist that products produced in Israeli settlements were labelled as settlement products, not as Israeli, diplomats involved in the drafting of the language told the Guardian that the resolution was important in underlining the policy of strongly “differentiating” between the state of Israel and illegal settlements in the West Bank.

The strongest paragraph of the communique underlined the illegality of Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories.

It said: “Recalling that settlements are illegal under international law, constitute an obstacle to peace and threaten to make a two-state solution impossible, the EU reiterates its strong opposition to Israel’s settlement policy and actions taken in this context, such as building the separation barrier beyond the 1967 line, demolitions and confiscation – including of EU-funded projects – evictions, forced transfers including of Bedouins, illegal outposts and restrictions of movement and access.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ent-activity-occupied-palestinian-territories
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And that, friends, is a mortal blow to any neoZionist notion of a ' Greater Israel ' . The settlement blocks- which Israel hoped would prove to be ' facts on the ground ' in its land-grab schemes- are now irredeemably located firmly in the state of Palestine and are not ' Israeli ' at all. Of course, this was the legal position prior to today's EU resolution but its affirmation is to be welcomed and built upon.
Congratulations to everybody participating in the BDS movement which forced the labelling of squatter goods as such which has, in turn, led to today's landmark resolution.
 
Israel must recongnize Palestine's right to exist as a Palestinian state. The blatant denial of Palestine's right to exist by figures in the Israeli government, such as Bennet, and the building of settlements which are squarely aimed at establishing a Jewish state in the West Bank, are acts of aggression against the Palestinian people and active denials of its right to exist.
 
Rose said:
Ideally it would withdraw substantially, pay enormous reparations to the Arabs and Palestinians, and have its much of it's leadership sent to the Hague. The idea of a Jewish state (an entity which differentiates itself by race, religion, and nationality, etc., and then acts violently against those who won't/can't conform to its categories) is something that should be condemned and abandoned/destroyed.
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Israel needs to be punished for being attacked by it's neighbors, does it?
 
kaz said:
Swish, LMAO. Once again a reading challenged liberal. Classic
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Making allowances for your sloth- some Arab states do recognise Israel, albeit by way of bribery by Washington Zionists. Palestine recognised Israel over twenty years ago. In addition, many non-Arab states do not recognise Israel- amounting to a significant proportion of the world's population.
Of course, the 30-odd countries which do not recognise Israel act legitimately as Israel is in breach of its United Nations membership responsibilities. This does not apply to the Palestinian state and Israel's only reason for not recognising Palestine is that Israel wishes to steal it. Tough titty. The EU applied further pressure on the brake just yesterday.
 
moon2012 said:
Making allowances for your sloth- some Arab states do recognise Israel, albeit by way of bribery by Washington Zionists. Palestine recognised Israel over twenty years ago. In addition, many non-Arab states do not recognise Israel- amounting to a significant proportion of the world's population.
Of course, the 30-odd countries which do not recognise Israel act legitimately as Israel is in breach of its United Nations membership responsibilities. This does not apply to the Palestinian state and Israel's only reason for not recognising Palestine is that Israel wishes to steal it. Tough titty. The EU applied further pressure on the brake just yesterday.
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If you can't follow a discussion, then there's not point in explaining it to you, Bart
 
Rose said:
Ideally it would withdraw substantially, pay enormous reparations to the Arabs and Palestinians, and have its much of it's leadership sent to the Hague. The idea of a Jewish state (an entity which differentiates itself by race, religion, and nationality, etc., and then acts violently against those who won't/can't conform to its categories) is something that should be condemned and abandoned/destroyed.
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Palestinians are not a people!

http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/01/09/palestinians-invented-people/
 
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