Well, if you put it that way it doesn't look very good.
Just highlighting the positions he takes on so called liberal causes.
Eric Holder: Feds Will Crack Down On Marijuana If Prop. 19 Passes
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Just highlighting the positions he takes on so called liberal causes.
LOL...you be so stoopie
CODEPINK are masculine looking feminazis whose use by the left was over when Obama was elected....any protests they do are nominal and unknown since Bush is gone. Not to worry they or something like them can always be resurected by leftist idgits when needed.I don't apologise for anyone...I do defend those who deserve it and I love to hold up the hypocrisy mirror. I don't need my candidates to be perfect; I do expect them to be as principled as humanly possible. I have no problem speaking out against anyone if they deserve it.
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L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca says deputies would enforce marijuana laws even if Prop. 19 passes
so the country sheriff can disregard the will of the majority and state legislation now?
so the country sheriff can disregard the will of the majority and state legislation now?
So far every issue I voted for Obama on in hopes of him correcting hes failed me.
Couple of my big issues were ending the wars, fixing the corruption on wallstreet (uptic/hedge funds/fractional trading), and ending pot prohibition.
Obama presidency thus far = Utter fail in my opinion.
Couple of my big issues were ending the wars, fixing the corruption on wallstreet (uptic/hedge funds/fractional trading), and ending pot prohibition.
Obama presidency thus far = Utter fail in my opinion.
Cancel 2016.2
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I doubt they have disappeared or stopped protesting... I think the answer is the media has simply stopped covering them.
I don't doubt that they have not disapeared...but their voclalism is certainly greatly diminished as a perusal of their site indicates. Regardless, the same point is made over media attention. An escalation in the use of rendition; drone attacks; and continued war in afghanistan with hardly a peep- have shown that it only seems to matter when a republican is in office.
Darla can give you more detail, she'd know when the Code Pink ladies were standing on the bypass with their signs.
The whole "media coverage" thing is so overplayed. After the initial "splash" they made protesting Iraq, Code Pink wasn't in the news that much except when they did something kid of outrageous, like when that protester got right up in Condi Rice's face. Truth be told, the only place I saw them covered aside from that over the past 5-6 years was on Fox, as they were portraying "the left."
I know from perusing the internets that Code Pink DOES still protest, and often, and as an organization, it would be hard to say they're "happy" with Obama. As I said, they've been at his fundraisers, outside his hotel & other places, protesting the wars as they always have.
The media itself does still cover the wars, btw; there have been no fewer than a half dozen front page articles on both CNN & MSNBC since the start of the summer. Media coverage of the wars in general took a sharp drop while Bush was still in office, largely because of war fatigue.
I know from perusing the internets that Code Pink DOES still protest, and often, and as an organization, it would be hard to say they're "happy" with Obama. As I said, they've been at his fundraisers, outside his hotel & other places, protesting the wars as they always have.
The media itself does still cover the wars, btw; there have been no fewer than a half dozen front page articles on both CNN & MSNBC since the start of the summer. Media coverage of the wars in general took a sharp drop while Bush was still in office, largely because of war fatigue.
How about showing us those "often" links?
The war fatigue you claim has some merit, but the absence of continued public outrage over increased rendition, failure to close gitmo, increased drone attacks into Pakistan killing "innocent villagers" and the escalation of war in afghanistan is huge news; especially in light of the fact that Obama was supposed to be an anti war guy.
You're not in w/ this crowd, but the far left - and many who don't necessarily consider themselves "far" but who are still on the left - are the most vocal about the policies you mentioned, and are among those who are the most dismayed w/ Obama on these issues.
As Damo mentioned, quite a bit goes on that simply isn't covered that much by the media anymore. And I would include Fox & the so-called conservative media in that. The media prints & broadcasts what they think will sell; the war was big news for awhile, but now it's the economy.
I don't know why Codepink is being singled out here, but what happened to the peace movement post-bush is a very long story and involves a hell of a lot more than Codepink. It's a story that needs to be written, but like any other story, everyone has a different, and even valid, perception.
Yes, Codepink still protests. I am not involved with them at all, I had tired a long time ago, before bush left office, of some of their methods. But they're still active. I do know that one of their most active chapters is in Arizona and they are a constant thorn in Arpaio’s side. They recently had Alice Walker in DC (a couple of weeks ago for the demonstration which the unions mainly organized), at Poets and Busboys, and I would have gone to that because I love Walker. But I am going to DC on the 30th and staying for the weekend. So I skipped that.
They are not pro-Obama. Like many peace activists, they were put in a bad position by the election. In early 08 I remember reading a great interview on Democracy Now, with an ethicist who had published a book back then. And I remember very well he said that having analyzed the foreign policies of the top 3 dem contenders; he had concluded that an Edwards’s presidency would result in something like 30k fewer deaths from war. And he said you can't say 30 thousand lives is nothing. (because some on the left were making the old "they're both the same" argument).
I think that all peace activists of good faith struggled with that. Certainly, all of the ones I knew personally did. Obama has lost a lot of support, really all support, among people who were actively protesting the wars under bush, and continued to protest them after bush was gone. They really talk about him the same way the righties here talk about him. I mean, their main argument is that Obama=Bush and that both are Hitler, while the crazy right here and everywhere, maintains that Obama=Hitler with a "Bush who? Never heard of him" chaser.
But the righties who talk about what "the lefties" are doing during the Obama presidency, don't actually know any lefties so it's very wise to view their proclamations with the same skepticism you view everything else they pull straight out of their asses and post as if it means something.
Yes, Codepink still protests. I am not involved with them at all, I had tired a long time ago, before bush left office, of some of their methods. But they're still active. I do know that one of their most active chapters is in Arizona and they are a constant thorn in Arpaio’s side. They recently had Alice Walker in DC (a couple of weeks ago for the demonstration which the unions mainly organized), at Poets and Busboys, and I would have gone to that because I love Walker. But I am going to DC on the 30th and staying for the weekend. So I skipped that.
They are not pro-Obama. Like many peace activists, they were put in a bad position by the election. In early 08 I remember reading a great interview on Democracy Now, with an ethicist who had published a book back then. And I remember very well he said that having analyzed the foreign policies of the top 3 dem contenders; he had concluded that an Edwards’s presidency would result in something like 30k fewer deaths from war. And he said you can't say 30 thousand lives is nothing. (because some on the left were making the old "they're both the same" argument).
I think that all peace activists of good faith struggled with that. Certainly, all of the ones I knew personally did. Obama has lost a lot of support, really all support, among people who were actively protesting the wars under bush, and continued to protest them after bush was gone. They really talk about him the same way the righties here talk about him. I mean, their main argument is that Obama=Bush and that both are Hitler, while the crazy right here and everywhere, maintains that Obama=Hitler with a "Bush who? Never heard of him" chaser.
But the righties who talk about what "the lefties" are doing during the Obama presidency, don't actually know any lefties so it's very wise to view their proclamations with the same skepticism you view everything else they pull straight out of their asses and post as if it means something.
So he's a conservative now....at least on these issues. So are those who are conservative on these issues too gonna vote for him?
So he's a conservative now....at least on these issues. So are those who are conservative on these issues too gonna vote for him?
No, because the economic issues he is social on are much more pressing and anti conservative. War is not a conservative policy it is a Constitutional question always. The points made were to show that dems who opposed Bush on the war; gay marriage and marijuana and called him a mass murderer and anti gay among other things are hypocrites to support Obama.
Very well said.
Code Pink came into the discussion early on, as sort of a typical "where are they now" cry of hypocrisy from the usual suspects on the right (who, of course, assume that everyone is like them and abandons their principles as soon as "their guy" is in power).
I actually think they're a great example of how independent many on the left actually are; I remember when the GOP used to make fun of Democrat voters for this, saying they could never unify for anything because there were so many disparate groups who refused to get in line.....
