Epic smack down for the lefties

FactsRStubborn said:
Balak Obama owned GM. He could have opened the plant back up. Why didnt he? He promised to. He broke his promise
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ROTLMAO! You GED's are funny. No wonder most people with a college education are Democrats. At least they can think! LOL

But keep it up GED'sareStupid. You're the best comedian we have on JPP. :)
 
Mott the Hoople said:
ROTLMAO! You GED's are funny. No wonder most people with a college education are Democrats. At least they can think! LOL

But keep it up GED'sareStupid. You're the best comedian we have on JPP. :)
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You are my little puppet. Like I said, I could tell you all of the degrees I have, but there is really no way to prove it. I prefer my anonymity. But, you are acting like a typical liberal. You can't argue the facts so you try to marginalize your opponent because then you can just dismiss them. Won't work with me puddin. You would be better off putting me on ignore like Prune told you to
 
FactsRStubborn said:
You are my little puppet. Like I said, I could tell you all of the degrees I have, but there is really no way to prove it. I prefer my anonymity. But, you are acting like a typical liberal. You can't argue the facts so you try to marginalize your opponent because then you can just dismiss them. Won't work with me puddin. You would be better off putting me on ignore like Prune told you to
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Yea, sure you can. You pretty much write at a third grade level. I don't blame you. I'd be embarrased to show my GED too, if i was you.
 
Darla said:
Meh, that's a fact check. Unless you actually believe it's a "liberal position" to tell the truth? If you would like to claim that the 716 billion Obama saves in Medicare spending (by lowering payments, not by lowering benefits) is not also in Ryan's budget, if you would like to claim that Ryan voted for Simpson/Bowles, or that the GM plant he blames Obama for didn't go under during Bush's watch (and btw I have Ryan's original statement on that closing, and Obama wasn't president, Bush was), then I will gladly debate you on that. We can begin with those three blatant lies and go from there.

Game?
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See Annie.
See Annie run.
Run, Annie, run!
 
cawacko said:
I watch MSNBC's coverage last night and they were going crazy over this one. Neither of these two articles has Paul Ryan's quote from his speech. We need to see that again because my recollection was it was very lawyerly/politician like where he stated something to the effect of Obama said in '08 at a campaign stop that with his leadership this plant would stay open another 100 years. Again I'd have to see the exact quote but I thought it was phrased so it wouldn't be a 'lie' but it was obviously deceptive.
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I went to dinner and had wine and wonderful on versatile with friends!
 
FactsRStubborn said:
You are my little puppet. Like I said, I could tell you all of the degrees I have, but there is really no way to prove it. I prefer my anonymity. But, you are acting like a typical liberal. You can't argue the facts so you try to marginalize your opponent because then you can just dismiss them. Won't work with me puddin. You would be better off putting me on ignore like Prune told you to
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Yeah, OK moron. lol
 
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Originally Posted by FactsRStubborn
You are my little puppet. Like I said, I could tell you all of the degrees I have, but there is really no way to prove it. I prefer my anonymity. But, you are acting like a typical liberal. You can't argue the facts so you try to marginalize your opponent because then you can just dismiss them. Won't work with me puddin. You would be better off putting me on ignore like Prune told you to



Yea, sure you can. You pretty much write at a third grade level. I don't blame you. I'd be embarrased to show my GED too, if i was you.
You're Never Alone With A Schizophrenic!

Duh, kind of hard to ignore your dribble when someone else quotes you, retard.


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bravo said:
Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

More FACT:
There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling if Obama was not spending money that the country did
not have to spend....raising the debt to untenable levels.....that is the bottom line....without the spin.

Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under President George W. Bush. Ryan actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to prevent other plants from closing.

More FACT:
Obama: I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this (General Motors) plant will be here for another hundred years,” said Barack Obama in February, 2008, promising UAW workers at GM’s giant, troubled plant in Janesville, Wisc., that he would watch over them if elected president. “When I talk about real change that will make a real difference in the lives of working families, it’s not just the poll-tested rhetoric of a political campaign. It’s the cause of my life. And you can be sure that it will be the cause of my presidency from the very first day I take office.”
It was just poll-tested rhetoric.
Before Obama was sworn in, the Janesville plant closed in late 2008, eliminating 6,000 jobs. And by his first day in office, Obama had forgotten the people of Janesville and the big SUVs they used to build.

Fact: Though Ryan insisted that President Obama wants to give all the credit for private sector success to government, that isn't what the president said. Period.

Thats a matter of interpretation...."You didn't build that" claim speaks for itself....and defies the truth of our 230+ years history...

Fact: Though Paul Ryan accused President Obama of taking $716 billion out of Medicare, the fact is that that amount was savings in Medicare reimbursement rates (which, incidentally, save Medicare recipients out-of-pocket costs, too) and Ryan himself embraced these savings in his budget

More FACT:
Obama did....DID cut Medicare by $716 billion....agreeing with the 'savings' and disagreeing with
how they are achieved and are two different issues....


And incidentally, this nit-picking or Ryan proves that the claim that FOX is in the pocket of the Republicans and Conservatives, is bogus....

Hi-lighted for Christiafan....
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Fact:

Ryan's hero, got on a public transportation bus every day, and attended a state college.

Good thing the govt. was there in her time of need, to enable her to eventually open a small business.
 
Rune said:
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Originally Posted by FactsRStubborn
You are my little puppet. Like I said, I could tell you all of the degrees I have, but there is really no way to prove it. I prefer my anonymity. But, you are acting like a typical liberal. You can't argue the facts so you try to marginalize your opponent because then you can just dismiss them. Won't work with me puddin. You would be better off putting me on ignore like Prune told you to



Yea, sure you can. You pretty much write at a third grade level. I don't blame you. I'd be embarrased to show my GED too, if i was you.
You're Never Alone With A Schizophrenic!

Duh, kind of hard to ignore your dribble when someone else quotes you, retard.


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Same ole story with you libs. Always someone else's fault
 
Dixie said:
YES... I would say, that something happening 93 days after Obama became president, is certainly his fault. Just as things that happened 93 days after Bush became president was his fault. Is there some magical liberal 'grace period' we're not aware of here? Why is it Obama gets a pass for things that clearly happened under his watch, while at the same fucking time, you want to BLAME THE ECONOMY off on Republicans, who have no control over Congress or the White House? Does any of this make any sense to someone who isn't marinated in liberal kook-aide?
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The plant closed before Obama took office. Period. Did Ryan expect all the equipment, etc., be cleared out on day 1? While we're at it, why didn't Ryan get help for the plant? Was it because he made an agreement in exchange for other subsidies for Janesville????? hmmmm.....

FactsRStubborn said:
You are my little puppet. Like I said, I could tell you all of the degrees I have, but there is really no way to prove it. I prefer my anonymity. But, you are acting like a typical liberal. You can't argue the facts so you try to marginalize your opponent because then you can just dismiss them. Won't work with me puddin. You would be better off putting me on ignore like Prune told you to
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You are fucking insane. Certifiable.

Mott the Hoople said:
Yea, sure you can. You pretty much write at a third grade level. I don't blame you. I'd be embarrased to show my GED too, if i was you.
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The only degree he has is in Stupid Ignoramus.

Althea said:
Well you know....facts are indeed, stubborn
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I choke up a little puke everytime I read his board name. Couldn't be farther from the truth.
 
Fact check:

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-08-30/fact-check-ryan-takes-factual-shortcuts-in-speech

GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan took some factual shortcuts during the Republican convention when he attacked President Barack Obama's policies on Medicare, the economic stimulus and the budget deficit. His running mate, Mitt Romney, was expected to speak later Thursday in the convention's culmination.

A closer look at some of Ryan's remarks Wednesday at the GOP convention in Tampa, Fla.:

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RYAN: "And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obamacare came at the expense of the elderly. ... So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama."

THE FACTS: Ryan's claim ignores the fact that Ryan himself incorporated the same cuts into budgets he steered through the House in the past two years as chairman of its Budget Committee, using the money for deficit reduction. And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.

In addition, Ryan's own plan to remake Medicare would squeeze the program's spending even more than the changes Obama made, shifting future retirees into a system in which they would get a fixed payment to shop for coverage among private insurance plans. Critics charge that would expose the elderly to more out-of-pocket costs.

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RYAN: "The stimulus was a case of political patronage, corporate welfare and cronyism at their worst. You, the working men and women of this country, were cut out of the deal."

THE FACTS: Ryan himself asked for stimulus funds shortly after Congress approved the $800 billion plan, known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Ryan's pleas to federal agencies included letters to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis seeking stimulus grant money for two Wisconsin energy conservation companies.

One of them, the nonprofit Wisconsin Energy Conservation Corp., received $20.3 million from the Energy Department to help homes and businesses improve energy efficiency, according to federal records. That company, he said in his letter, would build "sustainable demand for green jobs." Another eventual recipient, the Energy Center of Wisconsin, received about $365,000.

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RYAN: Said Obama misled people in Ryan's hometown of Janesville, Wis., by making them think a General Motors plant there threatened with closure could be saved. "A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: 'I believe that if our government is there to support you ... this plant will be here for another hundred years.' That's what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didn't last another year."

THE FACTS: The plant halted production in December 2008, weeks before Obama took office and well before he enacted a more robust auto industry bailout that rescued GM and Chrysler and allowed the majority of their plants — though not the Janesville facility — to stay in operation. Ryan himself voted for an auto bailout under President George W. Bush that was designed to help GM, but he was a vocal critic of the one pushed through by Obama that has been widely credited with revitalizing both GM and Chrysler.

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RYAN: Obama "created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way and then did exactly nothing."

THE FACTS: It's true that Obama hasn't heeded his commission's recommendations, but Ryan's not the best one to complain. He was a member of the commission and voted against its final report.
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FactsRStubborn said:
It is clear Ryan left a mark on the side of the face of the halfrican American. I love watching the libtards spin in circles
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If the word "spin" means proving you wrong time and time again while disputing every stupid word coming out of your racist mouth, then you have a point.

I believe I'll start doing what I've done with another board troll with you. You're simply not worth the keystrokes.
 
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