EPA chief admits climate change is real — but ‘the real issue is how much we contribu

Yaya said:
The issue really is how much do we contribute. If that is not a correct question to make, then what is the correct question?

One massive volcano changes the climate more than humans do. Massive solar flares change things. Ocean phenomenon like El Nino change the climate more than humans.

I think it is an important question. I am not sure we contribute as much as alarmist think we do.
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There you have it, folks.

Goal post moving, at it's finest, by the denialist community.

First, there was no global warming. None. Nada. Zilch.

Then, the denialists said there was warming, but hey, it was all natural.

Then, the warming was faked by an international conspiracy of scientists who fudged the data.

Now, well yes there is warming, but maybe humans aren't contributing as much as the IPCC says they are.

You know what type of people keep moving the goal posts, and keep changing their stories a full 180 degrees?

That's right. People who actually know they are wrong, but can't bring themselves to admit it on an obscure message board forum.

It doesn't matter what you think, what I think, or what any rube on jpp thinks. None of us are trained and qualified climate research scientists. The leading experts worldwide in the field have studied this topic for 40 years, and have concluded that all the weight of evidence strongly indicates man is largely responsible for the current rapid global warming trend.
 
Nomad said:
Anyone who can look back over the past hundred years and take into consideration the constant stream of man-made automobile and factory emissions and various other forms of pollution that have been being pumped NON-STOP AND WORLDWIDE the entire time into the earth's atmosphere, yet still lacks the mental ability to even consider that all of that garbage just might very well be having a negative effect on it, is either a willing dupe of the pro-industry Repugnant Party, or just plain lacks the common sense God gave a turnip.
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You should give up your modern life and go live in a cave if you are so much

I ain't changing a thing.
 
Cypress said:
There you have it, folks.

Goal post moving, at it's finest, by the denialist community.

First, there was no global warming. None. Nada. Zilch.

Then, the denialists said there was warming, but hey, it was all natural.

Then, the warming was faked by an international conspiracy of scientists who fudged the data.

Now, well yes there is warming, but maybe humans aren't contributing as much as the IPCC says they are.

You know what type of people keep moving the goal posts, and keep changing their stories a full 180 degrees?

That's right. People who actually know they are wrong, but can't bring themselves to admit it on an obscure message board forum.

It doesn't matter what you think, what I think, or what any rube on jpp thinks. None of us are trained and qualified climate research scientists. The leading experts worldwide in the field have studied this topic for 40 years, and have concluded that all the weight of evidence strongly indicates man is largely responsible for the current rapid global warming trend.
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I've always held the POV, so pound sand.

And when the next cooling period comes, you will cry and move the goal posts.

You know nothing, except talking points.
 
Cypress said:
Yes CO2 is a pollutant under the law.

But if you were actually informed about the topic you would know that, eh?

I understand your bottom line. You would rather see harm come to your grandchildren than admit you were wrong about global warming to anonymous people on the internet you don't know and will never meet
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Yep it is such a pollutant that deserts are greening as a result.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/10/the-world-is-getting-greener-why-does-no-one-want-to-know/

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Cypress said:
It's bad form to move the goal posts. You really know nothing about this topic, eh?

Lead can poison you at trace concentrations.

But if your contention is that a pollution can not occur at trace concentrations, I suggest you convert all the plumbing in your house to lead lined pipe, and enjoy some refreshing, trace concentration lead drinking water. Bon appetite!
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You are an effing idiot, just thought you ought to know.

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Cypress said:
There you have it, folks.

Goal post moving, at it's finest, by the denialist community.

First, there was no global warming. None. Nada. Zilch.

Then, the denialists said there was warming, but hey, it was all natural.

Then, the warming was faked by an international conspiracy of scientists who fudged the data.

Now, well yes there is warming, but maybe humans aren't contributing as much as the IPCC says they are.

You know what type of people keep moving the goal posts, and keep changing their stories a full 180 degrees?

That's right. People who actually know they are wrong, but can't bring themselves to admit it on an obscure message board forum.

It doesn't matter what you think, what I think, or what any rube on jpp thinks. None of us are trained and qualified climate research scientists. The leading experts worldwide in the field have studied this topic for 40 years, and have concluded that all the weight of evidence strongly indicates man is largely responsible for the current rapid global warming trend.
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You truly are the living embodiment of the saying "empty vessels make the most noise".

http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/f...rbon-among-the-biggest-climate-experts-around

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Cypress said:
There you have it, folks.

Goal post moving, at it's finest, by the denialist community.

First, there was no global warming. None. Nada. Zilch.

Then, the denialists said there was warming, but hey, it was all natural.

Then, the warming was faked by an international conspiracy of scientists who fudged the data.

Now, well yes there is warming, but maybe humans aren't contributing as much as the IPCC says they are.

You know what type of people keep moving the goal posts, and keep changing their stories a full 180 degrees?

That's right. People who actually know they are wrong, but can't bring themselves to admit it on an obscure message board forum.

It doesn't matter what you think, what I think, or what any rube on jpp thinks. None of us are trained and qualified climate research scientists. The leading experts worldwide in the field have studied this topic for 40 years, and have concluded that all the weight of evidence strongly indicates man is largely responsible for the current rapid global warming trend.
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Why don't you post some more shite from the likes of those charlatans Stefan Lewandowsky and Dana Nuttertelli?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04...ky-flees-australia-in-wake-of-investigations/

https://realclimatescience.com/2017/02/dana-nuttercelli-gets-something-right/




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Cypress said:
It's bad form to move the goal posts. You really know nothing about this topic, eh?

Lead can poison you at trace concentrations.

But if your contention is that a pollution can not occur at trace concentrations, I suggest you convert all the plumbing in your house to lead lined pipe, and enjoy some refreshing, trace concentration lead drinking water. Bon appetite!
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Have you ever had freshman biology lol?

CO2 is literally plant food and the EPA managed to make a poison out of it. I say who let the clowns out?

I don't know that Lead is used for anything in biological terms. The analogy is absurd.
 
Cypress said:
A decade ago the wingnut position was to first deny there was any warming at all.
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I almost think you're stupid enough to think that's true.......and then I remember you're a liberal......of course you're stupid enough.....its just that a decade ago you were too busy mocking us for being right, to listen to what we were saying.......
 
Cypress said:
The 5 stages of global warming denial.

Stage 1: Deny the Problem Exists
Stage 2: Deny We're the Cause
Stage 3: Deny It's a Problem
Stage 4: Deny We can Solve It
Stage 5: It's too Late to Do Anything
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stage 6: wake up and notice it didn't happen......
 
Cypress said:
You know what type of people keep moving the goal posts, and keep changing their stories a full 180 degrees?
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you mean like "man caused global warming" changing to "man contributed to global warming" to "conservatives used to deny global warming even happened"?.....at least you're consistent about demanding we turn the entire country into a third world nation in order to "solve" the problem of global warming......
 
Micawber said:
"Increasing carbon emissions in the atmosphere are having a warming effect. There is a broad scientific and policy consensus that action must be taken to further quantify and assess the risks.

ExxonMobil is taking action by reducing greenhouse gas emissions in its operations, helping consumers reduce their emissions, supporting research that leads to technology breakthroughs and participating in constructive dialogue on policy options.

Addressing climate change, providing economic opportunity and lifting billions out of poverty are complex and interrelated issues requiring complex solutions. There is a consensus that comprehensive strategies are needed to respond to these risks. "

Exxon

When your masters stop denying it, you last in line online nobody slaves can stop too. :palm:
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Consensus? An opinion is not science.
 
Darth Omar said:
Have you ever had freshman biology lol?

CO2 is literally plant food and the EPA managed to make a poison out of it. I say who let the clowns out?

I don't know that Lead is used for anything in biological terms. The analogy is absurd.
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Still dodging my questions, I see.

Plant food? Guess what, tard? We are not plants.
 
Milagro said:
You make amoebas seem intelligent!

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Hey, fucking Einstein, since he can't answer the question, defend your fellow ignoramus. When does 'trace' become 'greater than trace'?

"Plant food"? Fucking idiots. So is potassium. Suck down a bunch of that, moron, and see what happens to your heart.
 
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