EPA can no longer dictate CO2 emissions

[Lionfish]

The six Republican appointed justices should be dragged through the streets in chains so that decent people could stone them to death.
Add the McConnell's and the DeSantis' and the Abbotts and the Cruzes etc. to the chain gang. Not to mention the orangutan.


And unless we actually do it, they'll be nothing left of this republic that's worthwhile to save.
Is there even anything now?

I'm not threatening anybody, pigfucker. I'm saying what I'd like the coward Biden to do. Bernie or Liz would have done it already, bless them.

Fuck you asshole.

 

[anatta]

Wouldn't it be easier to cut CO2 emissions by shoving a tennis ball into Al Gore's mouth?

make John Kerry fly commercial..it is the height of lunacy for a "climate czar" to use a private jet

 

[anatta]

I’m trying to understand the argument, not misrepresent it. As I understand it, if we don’t act and make significant changes within a decade or so the damage we will have done will be irreversible for the planet.

This blue check mark Nasa scientist is talking about thousands of years from now. I take it that’s good news he thinks people will still be around that long? (He tweeted this prior to the official ruling)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1540471511433105408

I cant follow that one either..they are all crazy AGW
But clipping the EPA to make expansive law by regulation is a huge win for rule of law.

 

[BartenderElite]

I cant follow that one either..they are all crazy AGW
But clipping the EPA to make expansive law by regulation is a huge win for rule of law.

Big loss for earth, though.

 

[anatta]

Or maybe so. Or maybe I don't know.

Doesn't matter:
" In about a billion years, most life on Earth will eventually die anyway due to a lack of oxygen. That’s according to a different study published in March in the journal Nature Geoscience.

The researchers suggest that our oxygen-rich atmosphere is not a permanent feature of the planet. Instead, in about a billion years, solar activity will cause atmospheric oxygen to plummet back down to the level it was at before the Great Oxidation Event."
https://astronomy.com/news/2021/05/how-will-life-on-earth-end

that's it. I'm not making any long term plans

 

[anatta]

Big loss for earth, though.

not at all

In no way am I up on this like say Primavera but everything I do know says it's solar activity
not freaking CO2 -so no AGW

Besides if you are going to make a ruling this big effecting so many industries then it has to be done by Congress - not the EPA

 

[BartenderElite]

not at all

In no way am I up on this like say Primavera but everything I do know says it's solar activity
not freaking CO2 -so no AGW

Besides if you are going to make a ruling this big effecting so many industries then it has to be done by Congress - not the EPA

I'm not 100% sold on AGW - but I do know our activities are not sustainable for the next generation.

I don't trust corporate polluters one single bit. I love capitalism, but profit is the only goal. If they can make an extra buck, they don't care how much they pollute.

 

[anatta]

I'm not 100% sold on AGW - but I do know our activities are not sustainable for the next generation.

I don't trust corporate polluters one single bit. I love capitalism, but profit is the only goal. If they can make an extra buck, they don't care how much they pollute.

we have clean air and water.
This is about CO2, If you are going to start calling CO2 a "pollutant" that is a problem

 

[BartenderElite]

we have clean air and water.
This is about CO2, If you are going to start calling CO2 a "pollutant" that is a problem

I didn't. I said I didn't trust corporate polluters.

We do not have clean air & water.

 

[anatta]

I didn't. I said I didn't trust corporate polluters.
We do not have clean air & water.

from the EPA

Progress Cleaning the Air and Improving People's Health
https://www.epa.gov/clean-air-act-overview/progress-cleaning-air-and-improving-peoples-health

 

[Bigdog]

I'm sure that's gonna end well....

 

[Into the Night]

Greta will pout most terribly now.

Not sure if I am happier that agencies can no longer write laws of this particular one is going away.

Congress really MUST resume its job of being the one that writes legislation.

It's good all around.

The FAA can no longer pick and choose companies to succeed in building aircraft components.
The FCC can no longer just pick and choose who gets station licenses.
The NEA can no longer threaten local schools that refuse to teach the WOKE religion.
The EPA can no longer just pick and choose what gases are 'pollutants', set limits on them (despite the fact that it can't be measured), or pick and choose 'solutions' that must be implemented, or else.
The BATF can no longer just pick and choose what gun is 'illegal' on a whim.

At the very least, it falls back to Congress, which must take the political heat and risk their re-election to implement such laws.

That's assuming, of course, that no one challenges these laws as unconstitutional in the first place (which they are!).

 

[Into the Night]

Oh boy, now we’re going to get the arguments and “proof” from obscure weathermen and contrarian professors, usually secretly funded by the fossil fuel industries, that supposedly prove that climate change is a hoax, a fabrication, all in the hopes of selling a false paradigm, which obviously the above posters have swallowed

Very similar to the Big Lie, unless God Himself descends from above and tells them they are wrong their obstinateness will never allow them to accept the facts

Well, this was certainly predictable by Democrats! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It is YOU trying to present arguments and 'proof' from obscure weathermen! It is YOU that denies science AND mathematics! It is YOU that somehow believes fossils actually burn and we use them for fuel!! It is YOU that tries to invoke God in order to curse Him.

Now for the science you discard:

1st law of thermodynamics: E(t+1) = E(t) - U where 'E' is energy, 't' is time, and 'U' is work (force over distance). In other words, no gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You cannot make energy out of nothing!

2nd law of thermodynamics: e(t+1) >= e(t) where 'e' is entropy (the randomness of a system) and 't' is time. In other words, no gas or vapor has the capability to reduce entropy...ever. You cannot trap heat. You cannot trap thermal energy. There is always heat.

Stefan-Boltzmann law: r = C*e*t^4 where 'r' is radiance in watts per square area, 'C' is a natural constant, 'e' is a measured constant denoting the efficiency of a surface to radiate light, and 't' is temperature in Deg K. In other words, you cannot trap light. You cannot stop thermal energy from being converted into electromagnetic energy (light). The higher the temperature, the MORE LIGHT radiated, NOT LESS.

You deny and discard these three theories of science. They do not discuss fossils and have nothing to do with fossils.

Climate has no value associated with it. It cannot change. A desert climate is always a desert climate. A marine climate is always a marine climate. Climate has no temperature, humidity, wind direction of speed, pressure, area, location, etc. It cannot change.

You deny mathematics too. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth nor the global atmospheric CO2 concentration. The reason is the requirements for performing a statistical summary that you just discard because they are in your way.
One of the first requirements is that raw, unbiased data MUST be made available. It isn't. One of the most important characteristics of ANY statistical summary is that they do not predict anything. This is due to the use of random numbers in the summary process, both to calculate the averages and again to calculate the margin of error value.

This isn't made up shit, dude. YOU and the entire Church of Global Warming simply deny these theories of science and statistical mathematics.

'Climate change' is a meaningless buzzword. So is 'global warming'. No starting or ending point is ever specified for a delta value. No unbiased raw has ever been made available. YOU CANNOT PREDICT WITH STATISTICAL MATH!

 

[Into the Night]

Wouldn't it be easier to cut CO2 emissions by shoving a tennis ball into Al Gore's mouth?

The Son of Global Warming (who rises from the dead from time to time to say something stupid), hasn't been heard from for awhile. I do like your solution though!

 

[Into the Night]

The six Republican appointed justices should be dragged through the streets in chains so that decent people could stone them to death.
Add the McConnell's and the DeSantis' and the Abbotts and the Cruzes etc. to the chain gang. Not to mention the orangutan.


And unless we actually do it, they'll be nothing left of this republic that's worthwhile to save.
Is there even anything now?

The Supreme Court conformed to the Constitution of the United States. Yet you claim the republic is threatened.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Into the Night]

I'm not threatening anybody, pigfucker. I'm saying what I'd like the coward Biden to do. Bernie or Liz would have done it already, bless them.

Yes you are. Don't lie. You can't project YOUR problem on Biden or anybody else!

 

[Into the Night]

I’m trying to understand the argument, not misrepresent it.

There isn't one. The phrases 'global warming' and 'climate change' are completely meaningless. They are buzzwords. Attempting to use a buzzword as the main object in an argument only results in a void argument fallacy.

As I understand it, if we don’t act and make significant changes within a decade or so the damage we will have done will be irreversible for the planet.

This chant again??????!? This stupid chant has been claimed for over 50 years now.

Not gonna happen. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You can't create energy out of nothing. See the 1st law of thermodynamics.
No gas or vapor has the capability to reduce entropy. See the 2nd law of thermodynamics. That means you cannot trap heat. You cannot trap light. You cannot trap thermal energy, there is always heat.
You cannot stop conversion of thermal energy to electromagnetic energy. No how no way. See the Stefan-Boltzann law. You cannot trap light.

No magick gas, not CO2, not methane, not water vapor, not ANYTHING has the capability to warm the Earth in any way.

This blue check mark Nasa scientist is talking about thousands of years from now.

Science isn't a blue check mark. It isn't a government agency either. ANY scientist that discards theories of science is denying his own profession...and for religious purposes no less.

Science isn't any scientist or group of scientists. Science is nothing more than a set of falsifiable theories. It has no religion. It has no politics. It is not even people at all. Just the theories themselves.

The Church of Global Warming routinely discards three of them. I've seen them discard others as well from time to time.

 

[Into the Night]

The earth will be just fine. It will recover in the long run - we're kind of a blip.

Humanity, maybe not so much.

Recover from what????????!?

 

[Into the Night]

That's very true. But a billion years is quite a long time.

We're accelerating the pace of making the planet uninhabitable for humans. But something else will adapt to the new conditions and take our place.

This from the SAME Democrats that claim overpopulation problems!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[Into the Night]

Nah. Not at all.

Sorry dude, you are still locked on paradox on this one! You cannot argue both sides of a paradox! It's irrational!