Emmett Till / Trayvon Martin - An Awakening to Racist Evil in America

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Superfreak said:
Well we disagree that Martin was stalked. Intent is primary, not secondary in my opinion.
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Yes, we disagree.

True... but one is white on black, the other Hispanic on black... if the town is so racist, why wouldn't they try to string up the Hispanic guy who shot the black guy? They could 'get' both minority guys that way.
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White privilege was in trial in both cases. The fact that Zimmerman was only half-white does not suggest anything other than white privilege was on trial. Zimmerman doesn't like Hispanics either.

No question that racists don't like Hispanics .. but they hate us with a passion .. always have, always will. I have no doubt that the residents of that racist town don't give a shit about Zimmerman, but they had no intention of letting any black person think they can find justice in their shithole of a town.

That is debatable with Martin. Obviously only because of Zimmermans word. But still debateable. We can never know what Martin would have said he was doing.
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That isn't true. There was no indication or evidence that Martin was doing anything other than going to and from the store.

Here we disagree. Zimmerman was put on trial in the media on day one. He was convicted on day one. His entire past put on trial and included in this case. Yes, they dug into Martins past as well, but to suggest Martin was more so than Zimmerman is an exaggeration in my opinion.
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Again, I disagree

with respect, the case of comparing the two is a bad one for the reasons I listed. Just because a lot of people have done so after that original article on it... doesn't make it right.
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You didn't live Emmett Till. Many of us who make that comparison did.

The reason that your side runs from it is because of how blatantly racist it was. Just as blatantly racist as this case is. But your side does not own history or the writing of it.

THis case and the consequences and ramifications of it are not over .. and history will have much more to write about it.
 
Rune said:
Yes, you were a stupid teabagger for a while, and your still a little to the right side of libertarian, but I didn't complain about the other stuff. Let's try to keep this honest and accurate.
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It people like you that curse and name call that cause the lack of debate around here. That goes for BOTH SIDES of the Aisle..

I haven't seen ANYONE here in a Courteous debate yet.

acting like a bunch of angry children calling each other Racist and cursing every other word...

Seriously..Grow Up...

But dont talk about not debating Rune... you are a Prime Offender.
 
blackascoal said:
Yes, we disagree.



White privilege was in trial in both cases. The fact that Zimmerman was only half-white does not suggest anything other than white privilege was on trial. Zimmerman doesn't like Hispanics either.

No question that racists don't like Hispanics .. but they hate us with a passion .. always have, always will. I have no doubt that the residents of that racist town don't give a shit about Zimmerman, but they had no intention of letting any black person think they can find justice in their shithole of a town.



That isn't true. There was no indication or evidence that Martin was doing anything other than going to and from the store.



Again, I disagree



You didn't live Emmett Till. Many of us who make that comparison did.

The reason that your side runs from it is because of how blatantly racist it was. Just as blatantly racist as this case is. But your side does not own history or the writing of it.

THis case and the consequences and ramifications of it are not over .. and history will have much more to write about it.
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You forget the one factor that endeared Zimmerman to them, he had a gun! They can overlooked the fact that he was Hispanic because protection of guns is more important than protection of human life.
 
Rana said:
You forget the one factor that endeared Zimmerman to them, he had a gun! They can overlooked the fact that he was Hispanic because protection of guns is more important than protection of human life.
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Preach sister. :0)

You are absolutely right.

Gun-love plays into this as much as racism.
 
blackascoal said:
Yes, we disagree.



White privilege was in trial in both cases. The fact that Zimmerman was only half-white does not suggest anything other than white privilege was on trial. Zimmerman doesn't like Hispanics either.

No question that racists don't like Hispanics .. but they hate us with a passion .. always have, always will. I have no doubt that the residents of that racist town don't give a shit about Zimmerman, but they had no intention of letting any black person think they can find justice in their shithole of a town.



That isn't true. There was no indication or evidence that Martin was doing anything other than going to and from the store.



Again, I disagree



You didn't live Emmett Till. Many of us who make that comparison did.

The reason that your side runs from it is because of how blatantly racist it was. Just as blatantly racist as this case is. But your side does not own history or the writing of it.

THis case and the consequences and ramifications of it are not over .. and history will have much more to write about it.
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I don't believe they put Zimmermns past on trial in the trial, on the media, yes, but not in the trial. I will stand corrected if it was, I did miss some of the trial.
 
Voted4Reagan said:
It people like you that curse and name call that cause the lack of debate around here. That goes for BOTH SIDES of the Aisle..

I haven't seen ANYONE here in a Courteous debate yet.

acting like a bunch of angry children calling each other Racist and cursing every other word...

Seriously..Grow Up...

But dont talk about not debating Rune... you are a Prime Offender.
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WHAT?

If you don't like the conversation .. just put everybody on ignore..

,, that's YOUR advice

"If you dont like what he has to say just put him on ignore...."
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...DS-Clarification-Please&p=1266575#post1266575

You should take it.
 
Rana said:
Yes, they did, sentenced him to death, a second time.
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I think about his parents everyday.

Not sure I could handle that trauma without losing my mind. In fact, I know that I could not.

I can't even handle the thought of something happening to my daughter in a combat zone.

To see my child who has been murdered, put on trial in that manner .. I would just lose it entirely.
 
blackascoal said:
White privilege was in trial in both cases. The fact that Zimmerman was only half-white does not suggest anything other than white privilege was on trial. Zimmerman doesn't like Hispanics either.
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This is the part that I do not understand. The argument that an Hispanic man is using white privilege. We don't pretend Obama is white... that he is using white privilege... why Zimmerman?

No question that racists don't like Hispanics .. but they hate us with a passion .. always have, always will. I have no doubt that the residents of that racist town don't give a shit about Zimmerman, but they had no intention of letting any black person think they can find justice in their shithole of a town.
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Ok... I can understand that from your perspective. Not completely mind you, but it at least makes sense to me to a degree.

That isn't true. There was no indication or evidence that Martin was doing anything other than going to and from the store.
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Except for the 911 call Zimmerman made... granted it is his words and his view point... so big grain of salt

You didn't live Emmett Till. Many of us who make that comparison did.
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A valid point. All I can do is read up on it. I will never have the perspective of what it was like to live back then, other than through the written/spoken word of those that did.

The reason that your side runs from it is because of how blatantly racist it was. Just as blatantly racist as this case is. But your side does not own history or the writing of it.
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I don't think I am running from it. If anything I simply don't understand, for the reasons I have given I see a vast difference in the two. I am not trying to rewrite history by any means... I am just not seeing them in the same light... could be that I am blinded by what I have personally experienced. Which is certainly not the same as someone your age.

THis case and the consequences and ramifications of it are not over .. and history will have much more to write about it.
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well, then the best I can do is try and learn from it.
 
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