Emmett Till / Trayvon Martin - An Awakening to Racist Evil in America

[USFREEDOM911]

Does it really matter? The kid is dead.....from a gunshot wound to the chest. If the lung was damaged, it would deflate....causing a sucking chest wound.

But I keep forgetting. This is how USF operates....latches.on to the.most inane details and jumps on people about it...even.though it don't make a bit of difference.

No, it's more how you and the left operate.
You latch onto a detail and then beat it to death, all in an attempt to appear correct.

How many times has the lie been told that the dispatcher told Zimmerman to STAY IN THE CAR?

 

[blackascoal]

I have said that according to what the prosecution presented, the jury made the right call. That said, one could certainly make the case that the prosecution tanked this on purpose. Given the level of ineptitude, I would not question that line of thought in the least.

I didn't say it wasn't there... I think it might have been in terms of how the prosecution went in this case. But I do not think the jury had any choice given the facts AS they were presented. The prosecution left way too many holes there for reasonable doubt. Almost everyone of their witnesses were turned against them. If I was on the jury, I don't see how another verdict would have been possible within in the law. That doesn't make it right... just legal. As you have said, and I agreed, the application of the law lies many times in the hands of the attorneys involved. Sometimes you simply have a brilliant attorney (OJ) that creates reasonable doubt where none should have existed. Sometimes the prosecution sucks (intentionally or not) to the point that it is created (Zimmerman).

Like I said, I know how I can get at times when I am passionate about a topic. I will try my best to remain civil... though I think the board knows I can go off from time to time.

The jury had plenty of opportunity to convict Zimmerman on a plethora of evidence presented .. and according to reports, at least 3 jurors were ready to do just that.

The notion that the jury had no other choice is false.

I'm not sure that in any of your rants you felt the lives of people you love were at stake .. and if they were, I'd say your rant was justified.

I make no apologies for standing up for my own children and innocent black people. I make no apologies for my passion, anger, or words.

 

[Phantasmal]

lol wtfru

Lol, looks like Tom has Legionaire's disease! Grumpa Groanie! Lol

 

[Phantasmal]

The jury had plenty of opportunity to convict Zimmerman on a plethora of evidence presented .. and according to reports, at least 3 jurors were ready to do just that.

The notion that the jury had no other choice is false.

I'm not sure that in any of your rants you felt the lives of people you love were at stake .. and if they were, I'd say your rant was justified.

I make no apologies for standing up for my own children and innocent black people. I make no apologies for my passion, anger, or words.

You never should have to apologize, ever! For standing up to injustice.

 

[blackascoal]

You never should have to apologize, ever! For standing up to injustice.

And I never will.

If a rash of <insert race> boys were being similarly murdered, I would still be angry, still be incensed.

I scream about the deaths of innocent foreign kids killed by us.

How ironic it is that most of those who celebrate Zimmerman's murder of an innocent boy are also the ones screaming the loudest about the 'sanctity of unborn life.'

I guess once born, but a bullet in its head if it isn't white.

 

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The jury had plenty of opportunity to convict Zimmerman on a plethora of evidence presented .. and according to reports, at least 3 jurors were ready to do just that.

The notion that the jury had no other choice is false.

I'm not sure that in any of your rants you felt the lives of people you love were at stake .. and if they were, I'd say your rant was justified.

I make no apologies for standing up for my own children and innocent black people. I make no apologies for my passion, anger, or words.

except you don't care about black people. you may care about your children which is why you live in white neighborhoods to keep them out of the "urban" environment. But if you really cared about blakck people you would do something about the diseased culture that thinks drugs, lack of education, multiple children without marrying are cool.

 

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And I never will.

If a rash of <insert race> boys were being similarly murdered, I would still be angry, still be incensed.

I scream about the deaths of innocent foreign kids killed by us.

How ironic it is that most of those who celebrate Zimmerman's murder of an innocent boy are also the ones screaming the loudest about the 'sanctity of unborn life.'

I guess once born, but a bullet in its head if it isn't white.

Except you don't say shit about the deaths of blacks in Chicago.

BAZINGA

 

[blackascoal]

I see that ILA is back fresh from his many BAC threads .. with no responses.

I tried to post in one just so you could have at least one response .. but of course you didn't want me trashing you in your own thread so you locked out your only response. :0)

I really like the ones you create out of imaginary audiences .. 'the plurality think BAC and Desh are crazy' .. that's cute :0)

Besides, I like my name in lights .. so you keep on posting more BAC threads.

It's good to know that you're thinking about me .. even though I never think about you.

Thanks

 

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I see that ILA is back fresh from his many BAC threads .. with no responses.

I tried to post in one just so you could have at least one response .. but of course you didn't want me trashing you in your own thread so you locked out your only response. :0)

I really like the ones you create out of imaginary audiences .. 'the plurality think BAC and Desh are crazy' .. that's cute :0)

Besides, I like my name in lights .. so you keep on posting more BAC threads.

It's good to know that you're thinking about me .. even though I never think about you.

Thanks

LOL

 

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The jury had plenty of opportunity to convict Zimmerman on a plethora of evidence presented .. and according to reports, at least 3 jurors were ready to do just that.

The notion that the jury had no other choice is false.

I'm not sure that in any of your rants you felt the lives of people you love were at stake .. and if they were, I'd say your rant was justified.

I make no apologies for standing up for my own children and innocent black people. I make no apologies for my passion, anger, or words.

according to reports that was their first impression, yes. But when applying the law to the decision, they did not feel that way. There was a difference between what was right and what the law would allow for. Had they voted for what was right, it most likely would have been overturned at an appellate court.

Have I felt the lives of my family was at stake? No. So most certainly have not felt it the way you have. My friends that I love do have kids a bit younger than Martin. For them I do feel empathy for what society is going to likely put them through.

I would never ask you to apologize for your passion or anger or fighting for what you believe in. I would ask you to look in the future at the words used here though. I would never support what happened in the Till case. Ever. That was clear cut premeditated murder... based entirely on race. We disagree on aspects of the Martin case, we do not disagree on Till... and never will.

 

[blackascoal]

LOL

They may be stupid as a door knob .. but sometimes, they a lot of fun. :0)

 

[Cancel 2016.11]

How do you call it a racist talking point when the leading cause of death of black teenagers is gun violence and 90% of those killings are done by other black people? The leading cause of death of white teenagers is not gun violence. bac acknowledged it and said he's been working 40 years trying to help better the situation. There are many good people in communities all across the country giving everything they have to try and help stop the violence in their neighborhoods. They should be commended for their work.

(So at least to me) stating these facts is recognizing reality with the intention of working to improve it. It's not racist.

The study itself is not racist, however, racists utilize it in order to divert attention from injustices resulting from systemic racism. It's easy Cawacko. And really, really obvious.

 

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It becomes racist when it is used as "gotcha" by someone who doesn't give two shits about the situation, just like Tom used it. When you discuss it, it isn't racists because you genuinely care. Therein lies the difference.

Yep. He does the same thing with rape btw! He's a fucking monster, I don't know how many times I have to say it.

 

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Lol, looks like Tom has Legionaure's disease! Grumpa Groanie! Lol

I just noticed that. Basically Onceler is groaning every post BAC makes, while Tom keeps busy groaning every post Rune makes. Really? Come on, grow up man.

 

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I just noticed that. Basically Onceler is groaning every post BAC makes, while Tom keeps busy groaning every post Rune makes. Really? Come on, grow up man.

dont leave out Rune and Legion, those two are having some personal war on my posts... Legion thanking everything, Rune groaning it all... makes me feel so special.

 

[Phantasmal]

I see that ILA is back fresh from his many BAC threads .. with no responses.

I tried to post in one just so you could have at least one response .. but of course you didn't want me trashing you in your own thread so you locked out your only response. :0)

I really like the ones you create out of imaginary audiences .. 'the plurality think BAC and Desh are crazy' .. that's cute :0)

Besides, I like my name in lights .. so you keep on posting more BAC threads.

It's good to know that you're thinking about me .. even though I never think about you.

Thanks

Remember when you thought you could have a truce with him, I confess, it made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Lol

 

[blackascoal]

according to reports that was their first impression, yes. But when applying the law to the decision, they did not feel that way. There was a difference between what was right and what the law would allow for. Had they voted for what was right, it most likely would have been overturned at an appellate court.

Have I felt the lives of my family was at stake? No. So most certainly have not felt it the way you have. My friends that I love do have kids a bit younger than Martin. For them I do feel empathy for what society is going to likely put them through.

I would never ask you to apologize for your passion or anger or fighting for what you believe in. I would ask you to look in the future at the words used here though. I would never support what happened in the Till case. Ever. That was clear cut premeditated murder... based entirely on race. We disagree on aspects of the Martin case, we do not disagree on Till... and never will.

Premeditated intent is secondary to both being stalked because they were black.

Both in hostile southern towns.

Both doing nothing but coming from a store.

Both being put on trial more than the people who murdered them.

With all due respect, it really does not matter that you can't/won't make the comparison between the two cases, history already has.

 

[Phantasmal]

Yep. He does the same thing with rape btw! He's a fucking monster, I don't know how many times I have to say it.

Never enough, fool me once...we won't get fooled, again.

 

[Phantasmal]

I just noticed that. Basically Onceler is groaning every post BAC makes, while Tom keeps busy groaning every post Rune makes. Really? Come on, grow up man.

I have them both on IA, Tom, because he is a washerwoman, Thing for a cooling off period and SF because it is required every once in awhile.

 

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Premeditated intent is secondary to both being stalked because they were black.

Well we disagree that Martin was stalked. Intent is primary, not secondary in my opinion.

Both in hostile southern towns.

True... but one is white on black, the other Hispanic on black... if the town is so racist, why wouldn't they try to string up the Hispanic guy who shot the black guy? They could 'get' both minority guys that way.

Both doing nothing but coming from a store.

That is debatable with Martin. Obviously only because of Zimmermans word. But still debateable. We can never know what Martin would have said he was doing.

Both being put on trial more than the people who murdered them.

Here we disagree. Zimmerman was put on trial in the media on day one. He was convicted on day one. His entire past put on trial and included in this case. Yes, they dug into Martins past as well, but to suggest Martin was more so than Zimmerman is an exaggeration in my opinion.

With all due respect, it really does not matter that you can't/won't make the comparison between the two cases, history already has.

with respect, the case of comparing the two is a bad one for the reasons I listed. Just because a lot of people have done so after that original article on it... doesn't make it right.