Emmett Till / Trayvon Martin - An Awakening to Racist Evil in America

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Rana said:
Air too,and that is even more precious ;)
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True :0)

But here's some good news for you to sleep on tonight good sister ..

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If war is what they're looking for .. I think they got it.
 
Superfreak said:
Or perhaps you should have just left or remained silent so as not to betray how hateful you and desh are. We did not make this about white men. YOU AND DESH made it about our race.
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Funny thing is...

ZIMMERMAN ISNT WHITE

That alone invalidates their argument that a WHITE GUY killed a Black Guy.

He's Hispanic(50%) , Black(12.5%), White/Jewish (37.5%)

He is mostly NON-WHITE.. Why do you all ignore this and call him something he isnt?
 
Voted4Reagan said:
Funny thing is...

ZIMMERMAN ISNT WHITE

That alone invalidates their argument that a WHITE GUY killed a Black Guy.

He's Hispanic(50%) , Black(12.5%), White/Jewish (37.5%)

He is mostly NON-WHITE.. Why do you all ignore this and call him something he isnt?
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Because he has a jew sounding last name

Because BAC and his minions are race hustlers
 
Darla said:
White guys always act like being angry is the gravest sin in the world. SOme of you do that to me all the time about rape and other things. Why are you so ANGRY darla. Madone!
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nah it's not the gravest sin in the world. The thing is our eyes just get sore from rolling them so much. We just need a break every now and then.

Celebrating Martin's murder? Billy. Grind. USFreedom. I am sure there are others, but I haven't seen everything. For a long time I had been avoiding the threads.
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Some of the "Celebrating" was a bit of trolling and hyperbole, but I do believe he deserved it and is definitely the more guilty party. Especially in the eyes of the law. But don't take it from me, take it from the 6 jurors agreed upon by both parties, the one that no one had a problem with before the verdict came down. It was all "girl power hooray 6 women will get to the truth for sure!"... until you guys didn't get the result you wanted.

I don't believe in putting people in jail for not doing anything illegal just because of your feels and crocodile tears. That is not a society I want to live in. I have yet to see you talk about anything material to the case. It's just skittles and ice tea for you. Following someone isn't illegal. You can't put people in jail for not doing anything illegal. You can't just put people in jail on your whims. Period. Full Stop.

We are a nation of laws and that is how we judge people in the judicial system.

Anyone who thinks it is right that he walked, has a serious issue and I am not with them. We are definitely two different like species or something. I don't know.
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There are 3 type of arguments that come into play when discussing this situation. A lot of us get sidetracked and mix and match them, but they really are separate areas

1) The first is the moral argument. George shouldn't have gotten out of his car .. He shouldn't have followed trayvon. Profiling is bad, trayvon just had skittles and wanted to eat his candy. Etc.

2) The second argument is the material facts of the case. What did the actual evidence support? How much could be could be proven in court? How many witnesses supported zimmermans story?

3) The third argument is the legal one. Under a justifiable homicide (which is not some extreme law but in every state in the nation), if one is not doing anything illegal and they are attacked, they have a right to use deadly force to prevent a forceable felony, grave bodily injury or death. This tends to overlap a bit with #2 as well. What about reasonable doubt? How much did the prosecution actually bomb? How certain could anyone be beyond a reasonable doubt?

Many of the crocodile tears argue from the #1 perspective, whereas I am usually ignoring the #1 argument as morality is immaterial to judging a case based on the law and the evidence.

If you really believe the law dictated that he walked ( I do not),
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You didn't watch the trial.

then be OUTRAGED about the law. Do something to show that it's a fucking travesty that a kid got his life stolen from him, FOREVER, because he was black. And stop denying that iwas because he was black.
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Outraged about reasonable doubt? You mean the cornerstone of our judicial system? Anyone that actually watched the trial would have seen that the State simply did not prove their burden. AT ALL. Almost every witness of theirs was turned against them. Their medical expert even said that zimmermans story was not inconsistent with the evidence.

I am not outraged. I believe it's perfectly sensible that when one has a reasonable fear for their life or grave bodily injury or to stop a forceable felony that they have every right to put a bullet in that person. Doesn't matter the race to me. Punching someone, hitting someone, beating and attacking someone even when a 3rd party comes upon the seen and tells them to stop but they continue, sorry but you don't have carte blanche to keep beating on someone just because they pissed you off. I love this law, I think it's great, and I hope it continues to exist.
 
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