Ellen Barkin Got Her Wish... It's just that the result was surprising to her.

Damocles said:
http://nation.foxnews.com/ellen-bar...every-pro-life-xenophobic-gay-bashing-sob-rnc
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considering the 'anti-abortion' war against doctors providing legal abortion services by advertising their addresses and posting wanted dead posters...not to mention the number of doctors killed by anti-abortion fanatics, i have to admit that i would not mind them prematurely expiring either

it is long past time to realize that the anti-abortion fanatics are waging a war with a take no prisoners mentality and to treat them as an armed, shooting, bomb throwing and killing group

they are like the ira with a public non-violent legalistic front and a violent back

bummer
 
Don Quixote said:
considering the 'anti-abortion' war against doctors providing legal abortion services by advertising their addresses and posting wanted dead posters...not to mention the number of doctors killed by anti-abortion fanatics, i have to admit that i would not mind them prematurely expiring either

it is long past time to realize that the anti-abortion fanatics are waging a war with a take no prisoners mentality and to treat them as an armed, shooting, bomb throwing and killing group

they are like the ira with a public non-violent legalistic front and a violent back

bummer
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The IRA really? That's who you're comparing them to? This feels a bit like when the pro gun rights crowd compare the US gov to Hitler and Stalin. Way outta proportion.
 
Disillusioned said:
The IRA really? That's who you're comparing them to? This feels a bit like when the pro gun rights crowd compare the US gov to Hitler and Stalin. Way outta proportion.
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perhaps, but what about the bombings perpetrated by the anti-abortionists?

and the assassinations - hitler and the ira started out small and grew in to a serious menace

also, they are getting more violent each year

true, they have not reached the level of the ira...yet
 
Don Quixote said:
perhaps, but what about the bombings perpetrated by the anti-abortionists?

and the assassinations - hitler and the ira started out small and grew in to a serious menace

also, they are getting more violent each year

true, they have not reached the level of the ira...yet
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Sorry but that reasoning doesn't fly. By that logic we should lock down every mass speaker because Hitler started out with speeches.

The arrow of justice flies one way. You only get to punish people for what they've done, not what they might do.

Find the people who've done the bombing and lock them up, but the people who haven't done anything other than talk, can talk all day long.
 
Disillusioned said:
Sorry but that reasoning doesn't fly. By that logic we should lock down every mass speaker because Hitler started out with speeches.

The arrow of justice flies one way. You only get to punish people for what they've done, not what they might do.

Find the people who've done the bombing and lock them up, but the people who haven't done anything other than talk, can talk all day long.
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notice that i mentioned the ira political/legal front

i did not say that they could not talk

it is their violent actions that i am talking about and those that promote and assist them

they have very good lawyers advising them on how to skirt the law and use and abuse free speech while spurring on their mentally unstable believers and their bombers
 
She didn't say she wanted them dead. She said she wanted them washed out to sea. Sheesh.

No worse than the drool coming out of Hank Jr's mouth.
 
Don Quixote said:
considering the 'anti-abortion' war against doctors providing legal abortion services by advertising their addresses and posting wanted dead posters...not to mention the number of doctors killed by anti-abortion fanatics, i have to admit that i would not mind them prematurely expiring either

it is long past time to realize that the anti-abortion fanatics are waging a war with a take no prisoners mentality and to treat them as an armed, shooting, bomb throwing and killing group

they are like the ira with a public non-violent legalistic front and a violent back

bummer
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we should archive this to show how far Don has fallen over the years......I can remember when he was rational.....
 
Don Quixote said:
considering the 'anti-abortion' war against doctors providing legal abortion services by advertising their addresses and posting wanted dead posters...not to mention the number of doctors killed by anti-abortion fanatics, i have to admit that i would not mind them prematurely expiring either

it is long past time to realize that the anti-abortion fanatics are waging a war with a take no prisoners mentality and to treat them as an armed, shooting, bomb throwing and killing group

they are like the ira with a public non-violent legalistic front and a violent back

bummer
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The fanatics who kill abortion doctors/staff are lunatics. But I would be curious to know how many have occurred in the US. Do you have stats? How many in the past decade?
 
Don Quixote said:
notice that i mentioned the ira political/legal front

i did not say that they could not talk

it is their violent actions that i am talking about and those that promote and assist them

they have very good lawyers advising them on how to skirt the law and use and abuse free speech while spurring on their mentally unstable believers and their bombers
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this is what I have found thus far... do you have more stats?

Murders

In the U.S., violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eight people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[8][9]

March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before and was also bombed subsequently, in 1984 and 2012.
December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York.[10] His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at church in Wichita, Kansas.[11]

Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[12] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[8][13][14]

August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.[15]
January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#Murders
 
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