Electric Cars: Square Peg, Round Hole

First Tesla cut EV prices and now Ford does....because the market is weak.....so many people simply do not want an EV. Not that the Revolution will be allowing us a choice, they will use mandates and other laws to force them on us, come Hell or High Water.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
First Tesla cut EV prices and now Ford does....because the market is weak.....so many people simply do not want an EV. Not that the Revolution will be allowing us a choice, they will use mandates and other laws to force them on us, come Hell or High Water.
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That is just for the SDTC and the SOTNY. Elsewhere, people will simply reject the EV and any mandates for them.
Remember, these two territories are not the States.

See Wyoming's proposed ban on EVs, for example. Wyoming by no means stands alone in that sentiment.
 
Cheaper to Drive Gas-Powered Car 100 Miles than Average Electric Car

"Thanks to skyrocketing electricity prices, it now costs more to drive the average electric vehicle 100 miles than it does to drive a gas-powered car the same distance.

A report from the Anderson Economic Group (AEG) shows that driving a gas-powered car 100 miles costs an average of $11.29. However, the cost for people who drive electric vehicles and charge up at home is $11.60 per hundred miles. A little more expensive.

But.

For those electric car owners who use recharging stations, the average cost for 100 miles is substantially higher at $14.40.

But at least you’re saving the planet, right?

Oh, wait, you’re not saving the planet because most of the “clean” electricity you use to charge your eco-car comes from burning fossil fuels…so lol."
 
Electric truck maker Rivian Automotive
said it is laying off 6% of its workforce in a bid to conserve cash as it braces for a possible industry-wide price war.

In an email to employees that was seen by CNBC, CEO RJ Scaringe said improving the company’s operating efficiency must be a “core objective.” The company is focusing on ramping up production of its R1 trucks and the EDV delivery vans it builds for Amazon
, as well as on development of its upcoming smaller R2 vehicle platform.

Scaringe said that the cuts would not affect manufacturing jobs at Rivian’s factory in Illinois.

Rivian went public via a successful initial offering in late 2021, raising nearly $12 billion. But the California-based automaker’s shares have lost nearly 90% of their value since, leading the company to rethink its expansion plans as it works toward profitability. Recent price cuts by Tesla and Ford Motor have led to concerns that other automakers may be forced to reduce prices on EVs amid growing competition in the space.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/01/rivian-to-lay-off-six-percent-of-workforce-ev-price-war.html

All is not well in the EV market.
 
Into the Night said:
That is just for the SDTC and the SOTNY. Elsewhere, people will simply reject the EV and any mandates for them.
Remember, these two territories are not the States.

See Wyoming's proposed ban on EVs, for example. Wyoming by no means stands alone in that sentiment.
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I am seeing a lot on the internet recently about how EV's dont work very well in the cold, which is new. We have always known this but as more EV's get sold outside of CA the ability to keep this flaw quiet is ending.
 
I wonder if Rivians main problem is that the truth has gotten out that EV's suck at hauling, and who wants a very expensive pick-up that cant haul.
 
Rivian has lost a bunch of top people lately, they claim it is because they need to get better people but this seems a likely lie......it looks like insiders know that the company is in trouble. The drastic step of firing people to conserve cash when they are supposed to be in a huge ramp up rather confirms this.
 
Lionfish said:
Cheaper to Drive Gas-Powered Car 100 Miles than Average Electric Car

"Thanks to skyrocketing electricity prices, it now costs more to drive the average electric vehicle 100 miles than it does to drive a gas-powered car the same distance.

A report from the Anderson Economic Group (AEG) shows that driving a gas-powered car 100 miles costs an average of $11.29. However, the cost for people who drive electric vehicles and charge up at home is $11.60 per hundred miles. A little more expensive.

But.

For those electric car owners who use recharging stations, the average cost for 100 miles is substantially higher at $14.40.

But at least you’re saving the planet, right?

Oh, wait, you’re not saving the planet because most of the “clean” electricity you use to charge your eco-car comes from burning fossil fuels…so lol."
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An interesting report that simply adds other costs to the EV cost per mile such as cost to drive to a charger and cost of installing a home charger but only includes the gas price for ICE vehicles. I don't know of anyone that doesn't have to drive to a gas station to fill up but they felt that didn't matter with ICE cars. Based on this idiotic way of calculating costs, everyone with an EV would have to be installing a new charger every 12 months. That isn't the way electricity and electrical fixtures work.
 
Even Low-Milage Teslas Are Often Too Expensive to Fix
Insurance companies charge more for electric vehicles in general, but some of the biggest names in the biz are totaling barely driven Teslas over massive repair bills with less than 10,000 miles on the clock.

EVs might save you on fuel costs, but they are damn expensive to fix and insure. And the more technologically advanced a vehicle is, the higher the costs on even minor bumps and scrapes. Sensors, cameras and electronics can send even modest repair costs soaring. And Teslas—the best-selling EV manufacturer on U.S. roads—are chock-full of that stuff. A report from Reuters shows Teslas in particular suffer from high repair bills:
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https://www.yahoo.com/autos/even-low-milage-teslas-often-182000153.html
 
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