Einstein got it – philosophy and science do go hand in hand

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Historians have, in fact, long known about Einstein’s debt to Hume, and indeed about that letter. They’ve known, too, about the influence on Einstein of many other philosophers, from Ernst Mach to Arthur Schopenhauer. Part of what many find intriguing about the story is the idea that scientific theories should be shaped by philosophical ideas. It has become common for scientists to dismiss philosophy as irrelevant to their work. The “insights of philosophers”, the physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg suggests, are “murky and inconsequential compared with the dazzling successes of physics and mathematics”.

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Philosophy, the physicist Carlo Rovelli has observed, brings to science “conceptual analysis, attention to ambiguity, accuracy of expression, the ability to detect gaps in standard arguments, to devise radically new perspectives, to spot conceptual weak points, and to seek out alternative conceptual explanations”.
 
BidenPresident said:
Historians have, in fact, long known about Einstein’s debt to Hume, and indeed about that letter. They’ve known, too, about the influence on Einstein of many other philosophers, from Ernst Mach to Arthur Schopenhauer. Part of what many find intriguing about the story is the idea that scientific theories should be shaped by philosophical ideas. It has become common for scientists to dismiss philosophy as irrelevant to their work. The “insights of philosophers”, the physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg suggests, are “murky and inconsequential compared with the dazzling successes of physics and mathematics”.

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Just like religion
 
BidenPresident said:
Historians have, in fact, long known about Einstein’s debt to Hume, and indeed about that letter. They’ve known, too, about the influence on Einstein of many other philosophers, from Ernst Mach to Arthur Schopenhauer. Part of what many find intriguing about the story is the idea that scientific theories should be shaped by philosophical ideas. It has become common for scientists to dismiss philosophy as irrelevant to their work. The “insights of philosophers”, the physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg suggests, are “murky and inconsequential compared with the dazzling successes of physics and mathematics”.

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You obviously have no idea what philosophy is or what science is.

'Science' is defined by philosophy, but theories or science are not.

You deny and discard science and mathematics. You deny and discard philosophy too. You deny and discard logic. You have already discarded the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. Physics is not mathematics. Mathematics is not physics.
 
Yakuda said:
I didnt say they were like religion you stupid fucking cow. You said science and philosophy and go hand in hand scrotum mouth. I said just like religion you fucking dried up $2 slut
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Religion does not hand in hand with either science or philosophy.
 
BidenPresident said:
Historians have, in fact, long known about Einstein’s debt to Hume, and indeed about that letter. They’ve known, too, about the influence on Einstein of many other philosophers, from Ernst Mach to Arthur Schopenhauer. Part of what many find intriguing about the story is the idea that scientific theories should be shaped by philosophical ideas. It has become common for scientists to dismiss philosophy as irrelevant to their work. The “insights of philosophers”, the physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg suggests, are “murky and inconsequential compared with the dazzling successes of physics and mathematics”.

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The “insights of philosophers”, the physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg suggests, are “murky and inconsequential compared with the dazzling successes of physics and mathematics”.
 
BidenPresident said:
Historians have, in fact, long known about Einstein’s debt to Hume, and indeed about that letter. They’ve known, too, about the influence on Einstein of many other philosophers, from Ernst Mach to Arthur Schopenhauer. Part of what many find intriguing about the story is the idea that scientific theories should be shaped by philosophical ideas. It has become common for scientists to dismiss philosophy as irrelevant to their work. The “insights of philosophers”, the physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg suggests, are “murky and inconsequential compared with the dazzling successes of physics and mathematics”.

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Einstein thought his study of philosophy made him a better and more creative scientist.
 
Grokmaster said:
The “insights of philosophers”, the physicist and Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg suggests, are “murky and inconsequential compared with the dazzling successes of physics and mathematics”.
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Until about 150 years ago scientists were considered natural philosophers.

I doubt Newton, Galileo, or Bacon even heard the word scientist, which was term only invented in the 19th century. Newton et al. would have considered themselves natural philosophers.

Newtonian mechanics, relativity, quantum mechanics have deep philosophical implications.
 
Into the Night said:
Religion does not hand in hand with either science or philosophy.
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When Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate fiefdom drug trafficking enforcement stops upholding Christian Nation SCOTUS Federal sin diatribe Washington, D.C born USA citizens are Islam & must die for the Christiananality pedophilia national religion of Islamidiotocracy there might actually be a statistical probability of returning to normal...
 
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