Edwards.....stop panicking

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Cypress

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Ummm, yeah...exactly what I've been saying for months to the hand-wringers, diaper-poopers, and bed-wetters...Edwards ain't out of this. Stop panicking. He's fighting an uphill battle against a corporate media that doesn't like him. But, this is far from over...


The Man Who Refused to be Buried

It's amazing how well Edwards is doing. Recent polls of the first three states have Edwards ahead in Iowa and tied with Obama for second in New Hampshire* and Nevada. You can find less favorable polls, of course, but there's no question that he's in the thick of the race--an astounding accomplishment given the effort of the elite media to take him down and the celebrity of his two top rivals. One of the big un-discussed stories of the race is that Edwards is not slipping, a la McCain. On the contrary.

I could write a 10,000-word post on the elite media's distaste for Edwards: it's multi-layered. Elite journalists are in many cases members of the D.C establishment, which didn't take to Edwards even when he was a Senator, and which now hates him. Edwards is running against Washington in a very real way--not just rhetorically. He's winning powerful enemies with his "class warfare," his attacks on lobbyists, his criticism of Dems in Congress for caving in to Bush on Iraq, his call for reform at the D.N.C and Congressional committees. I feel confident saying that in the Giant Secret Conversation, in which elites socialize and leak and gossip, few are raving about Edwards.

My sense is, the dislike for Edwards is more personal than political. It's his earnestness that most offends elite journalists. They prefer irony and knowingness, the Bob Dolesque wit signaling that the political game is just that, a game, nothing too serious. But Edwards is dead serious. He speaks in moral terms. He has grand goals. He understands that political issues are matters of life and death. Jaded and often depressed, scornful of people fortunate enough to have strong beliefs, journalists think Edwards is a moralizer and hope to lay him low with charges of hypocrisy. They want us to think Edwards is as cynical as they are. But he's not.

The media assault was unrelenting from the end of March to the end of June. The Haircut dominated. It found its way to every story about Edwards. Compared to Clinton and Obama, he got almost no coverage and when he did, it was negative. He came very close to losing control of his image and his narrative. In a now infamous, blasé post, Marc Ambinder, formerly of the Note and now of the Atlantic, confirmed what we had lost suspected, that the media were "trying to bury Edwards."

A candidacy with a less solid core would have gone under. His substance kept him above ground.


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none of this national opinion crap bullshit reporting. (Hillary ahead by 9billion points) matters.. what matters is who wins the primaries.
 
I know you haven't given up Darla. I've seen others panic, though....:rolleyes:


I think the corporate media wants an Obama or a Hillary. A black man or a woman nominated for prez is a great story. They have a vested interest in it. That's not to say Obama or Clinton aren't well qualified and capable. I just think that's how the "free market" media works.
 
Chapdog said:
i would vote for Edwards.. and perhaps Obama.. I would never ever vote for hillary.
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the real question is what would you do if its Hillary vs. any Republican for the Presidency? Do you hold your nose and vote for her?
 
Cypress said:
I know you haven't given up Darla. I've seen others panic, though....:rolleyes:


I think the corporate media wants an Obama or a Hillary. A black man or a woman nominated for prez is a great story. They have a vested interest in it. That's not to say Obama or Clinton aren't well qualified and capable. I just think that's how the "free market" media works.
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You yourself said the other day you thought it was pretty cool that 3 out of the 4 top Democratic contenders are not white males. I don't think the media is thinking any different than you are.
 
cawacko said:
the real question is what would you do if its Hillary vs. any Republican for the Presidency? Do you hold your nose and vote for her?
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I don't think Chap is a dem, but I want to answer...I'm going to hold my nose and vote for her, and then when you and Damo bitch about what she does, I'm going to whine, welllll if only you guys had put up someone I could vote for, like Chafee. Yeah, I can hardly wait, in fact, it's one of the few silver linings if she gets nominated.
 
I now think Edwards is a bad candidate, and I've even voted for him before.

That said, I think he was right when he said "The War on Terror is a Bumpersticker" and I only regret that he hasn't been able to articulate that repeatedly and clearly and forcefully.


And frankly, yeah, who wants a white guy to win the Democratic nomination? It would be kind of depressing.
 
cawacko said:
You yourself said the other day you thought it was pretty cool that 3 out of the 4 top Democratic contenders are not white males. I don't think the media is thinking any different than you are.
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Ummm...it IS cool.

Am I picking someone to support based on skin color or gender? Obviously I'm not. I'm supporting Edwards.
 
Cypress said:
Ummm...it IS cool.

Am I picking someone to support based on skin color or gender? Obviously I'm not. I'm supporting Edwards.
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I'm saying the media thinks its cool as well hence their desire to focus on it and discuss it.
 
cawacko said:
the real question is what would you do if its Hillary vs. any Republican for the Presidency? Do you hold your nose and vote for her?
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id likely vote for the pub. LOL any candidate that walks around acting like she is Kim Jong-il is automatically disqualified. Yah 9 holes in 1 my first time golfing.. yah made 100K off 1K investment my first time in the market.
 
Cypress said:
Ummm...it IS cool.

Am I picking someone to support based on skin color or gender? Obviously I'm not. I'm supporting Edwards.
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So there's time for race politics in the primary and it's cool at that point, but then it's not cool when it "really comes down to it".
 
Actual intellectual diversity would be cool, instead of this superficial gender and race diversity, guaranteeing a distinction without a difference.
 
Darla said:
I don't think Chap is a dem, but I want to answer...I'm going to hold my nose and vote for her, and then when you and Damo bitch about what she does, I'm going to whine, welllll if only you guys had put up someone I could vote for, like Chafee. Yeah, I can hardly wait, in fact, it's one of the few silver linings if she gets nominated.
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LOL, yeah "Well at leaast I did not vote for Ron Paul" :D
 
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