Early assessments, Nuclear program not destroyed.

What a horrible, illogical thing to say. Trump is an asshole. This mess is HIS fault. He wanted to take credit for the bombing. He went on TV way too soon and made claims that were not then, and are not now, substantiated.
How do you hate someone in place of someone else? I wish they would have refused the mission. We were not at war with Iran, and they bombed a nation at Trump's stupid orders. I am not proud of a sneak attack on another country. I thought America did not do things like that.
They were at war with us and killed over 1000 American either directly or through proxies that they paid and used like mercenaries.
 
so?


cement reinforcement is constantly happening. We discovered in Iraq how our smaller bunker busters were failing
And we first used field pieces barrels to make bunker busters. The science of bunker busters was in its infancy at the time. Things have changed.

They watched Fordow being built and constantly adjusted the development of the GBU 57 specifically to destroy Fordow. To think that they did not take the concrete type into consideration is beyond laughable. :laugh: They also sent 6 thirty thousand bombs down the ventilator shaft. Being inside Fordow would be like being inside a battleship cannon when it went off. Once past 5-10 feet in solid rock why would they constantly be using concrete?
 
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They watched Fordow being built and constantly adjusted the development specifically to destroy Fordow. To think that they did not take the concrete type into consideration is beyond laughable. :laugh: They also sent 6 thrifty thousand bombs down the ventilator shaft. being inside Fordow would be like being inside a battleship cannon when it went off. Once past 5-10 feet in soild rock why would they constantly be using concrete?
of course they took it into account - but you still want to verify if your new never before used weapons did the job.

you also don't know if your tests were truly indicative of the real world scenario you are now encountering

this is pretty obvious shit. so of course fastlane is in disagreement

lmfao
 
And we first used field pieces barrels to make bunker busters. The science of bunker busters was in its infancy at the time. Things have changed.

They watched Fordow being built and constantly adjusted the development of the GBU 57 specifically to destroy Fordow. To think that they did not take the concrete type into consideration is beyond laughable. :laugh: They also sent 6 thirty thousand bombs down the ventilator shaft. Being inside Fordow would be like being inside a battleship cannon when it went off. Once past 5-10 feet in solid rock why would they constantly be using concrete?
you are a poser.

if successful, it is because we used ventilation shafts, not because the bombs are keeping up with the UHC

 
What a horrible, illogical thing to say. Trump is an asshole. This mess is HIS fault. He wanted to take credit for the bombing. He went on TV way too soon and made claims that were not then, and are not now, substantiated.
How do you hate someone in place of someone else? I wish they would have refused the mission. We were not at war with Iran, and they bombed a nation at Trump's stupid orders. I am not proud of a sneak attack on another country. I thought America did not do things like that.
View: https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1892967169551487266
 
She’s a ten, you, Nomady…a three.

Is this all that you have…pathetic.
So you base your estimation of a woman's honesty and integrity on how good looking she is?

And you actually wonder why you're seen as one of the dumbest fucking redneck losers on this board??? :palm:
Post her lies, I’ll wait.
Here are just a few examples....

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Skip to 5:45 of video at following link:


Of course I know you'll be too stupid, lazy and chicken shit to watch it. :dunno:
Waiting, Nomady…

Pentagon Refutes RPT Iran Strikes Had Small Impact

Pentagon chief: Iran strike was a 'historically successful attack'​

Wow!!!! :whoa:

Imagine that.

The trump Pentagon is framing the results of a US military mission it was in charge of, in the most positive light possible!!!!

Who'd believe such a thing???? :whoa:

Idiot.
No doubt Karoline is pretty, but she's had lots of plastic surgery: boob job, nose job, lip fillers and botox. She's a plastic ice queen.

FWIW, I thought she was prettier without all the vanity surgery:
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That's the only standard stupid ass rednecks like Mearle judge females by.
 
So you base your estimation of a woman's honesty and integrity on how good looking she is?

And you actually wonder why you're seen as one of the dumbest fucking redneck losers on this board??? :palm:

Here are just a few examples....

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Skip to 5:45 of video at following link:


Of course I know you'll be too stupid, lazy and chicken shit to watch it. :dunno:

Wow!!!! :whoa:

Imagine that.

The trump Pentagon is framing the results of a US military mission it was in charge of, in the most positive light possible!!!!

Who'd believe such a thing???? :whoa:

Idiot.

That's the only standard stupid ass rednecks like Mearle judge females by.
Get a life, loser. Coulda sworn you woulda perma-fucked off after the election with how wrong and retarded you are about everything.
 
This document is entirely inapplicable.
Quite right. It's also completely inapplicable for some of the bombing of WW2, as many different types of bombs were used against many different types of targets. Some of those bombs are EXTREMELY effective at destroying their targets, including all of the equipment inside a building. It also ignores the destruction of service lines TO those buildings, including railroads. or the equipment operators killed in the blast.
The accuracy of the weapons was completely different, they were in open air factories which allowed blast waves to disappate through the weakest link, which was always the walls instead of heavy steel machinery.
For the generic carpet bombing popular in WW2, yes. It DID kill the equipment operators though. Rather hard to operate and fix the equipment that survived without the skilled operators.
The goal of collapsing an underground complex is to bury the equipment.
Yup. Dropping a mountain on top of equipment doesn't do that equipment any good!
Giant gas centrifuges are not mobile, would have been nearly impossible to evacuate, and aren't found on convenience store shelves.
Very true. These things are huge, and very delicate. They are constructed in place from pieces brought in by truck over the course of months or even years. Just one of them is about ten to fifteen times the height of a man. These aren't your little desktop chemistry lab centrifuges (which is incapable of enriching uranium anyway!).

The attack was successful. The target was destroyed, and those centrifuges with it.
 
Fordow was started in 2003

Centrifuges aren't as durable as tanks.
Absolutely correct. Gas centrifuges are extremely delicate and a LOT LARGER than tanks, and are NOT MOBILE. In addition, this isn't just some factory wall. Those bombs effectively dropped a mountain on top of those centrifuges. They're destroyed.
 
what is ironic and not understood by most, is that so called bunker busters are struggling to keep up with the technological advances in high tech cement production.
They go right through cement.

Someday you should visit the World of Concrete convention in Las Vegas (one of the largest shows in 'Vegas!). The high tech stuff is for specialized applications like runway overruns and hydraulic sealing techniques. Iran has no access to it, and it wouldn't have done them any good anyway.
the one reason to be optimistic is the fragile nature of centrifuges themselves, but I agree with those that say nothing replaces actual inspections
Nothing to inspect. It's a mountain sized pile of rubble and all entrances are collapsed and permanently sealed.

Illiteracy: Sentences begin with capital letters. Comma used as period. Missing periods.
Logic errors: Omniscience fallacy. Void argument fallacy. Strawman fallacy.

Throwing spaghetti at the walls hoping something will stick isn't going to work, Ziggy.
 
They were at war with us and killed over 1000 American either directly or through proxies that they paid and used like mercenaries.
Do you understand how declaring war works? How many military bases do we have surrounding them? Is that an act of war? Mercenaries? Guys like Blackwater contracting their services is an act of war? Is it OK if they establish military bases on our borders?
 
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