Drones create terrorism?

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Steelplate said:
You don't read well, do you?
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Yes, very.
The subject is terrorism.
You are an appeaser, you offer them excuses, you blame the victims, you blame Israel.

Why do liberals always have the highest regard and understanding for those who would kill every American alive today if they could, whilst hating Americas allies?
 
Threedee said:
The answer is, they are going to keep attacking us. If drones create more terrorists, they deserve to die just as much as the ones we were droning in the first place. Also, they are a pathetic society and will never do anything like try to increase their standard of living.
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But why are they terrorists? Why do they condemn us? It's not because they hate freedom, or that they're inherently evil. It's because we uphold dictators, we bomb without trial them, our media and military officials condemn their religion, we support states breaking international law, we detain them without trial, we support kidnapping and torturing their nationals.

And I'm still curious what you think we do to uphold the interests of multinationals in the middle east. I've got my own opinion, and I'd like to hear yours. :)
 
007 said:
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Yes, very.
The subject is terrorism.
You are an appeaser, you offer them excuses, you blame the victims, you blame Israel.

Why do liberals always have the highest regard and understanding for those who would kill every American alive today if they could, whilst hating Americas allies?
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Where DID I BLAME ISRAEL????

In fact...in my post..I said "what about Israel?, what about our allies?"

I followed that up with getting Israel and Palestine together for a lasting peace or give consequences...to BOTH sides.


But I know....let's keep fucking killing Muslims....it's worked so well thus far....fucking stooge.
 
Threedee said:
Leave also means force businesses out of the region. Is that something the adults should be doing to appease the children?
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Some of those children like the wealth that dealing with the West and China brings. It is forcing the children to grow up. ThThe non Westernized generation will have to die off, but I think once your age group lives in the world things will be very different.

I am hopeful for your age group, if the ones before you don't blow it up, because of the Internet, most of you are less bigoted. You are more open to change. I see very positive things for my children. You just have to get passed the Boomers and the Xers. ;)
 
Rana said:
Some of those children like the wealth that dealing with the West and China brings. It is forcing the children to grow up. ThThe non Westernized generation will have to die off, but I think once your age group lives in the world things will be very different.

I am hopeful for your age group, if the ones before you don't blow it up, because of the Internet, most of you are less bigoted. You are more open to change. I see very positive things for my children. You just have to get passed the Boomers and the Xers. ;)
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I hope you're right....I see a lot of maturity...but I also see a lot of self centered behavior...they could be one of the great generations, or they could be the next version of the 70's yuppies.
 
Steelplate said:
I hope you're right....I see a lot of maturity...but I also see a lot of self centered behavior...they could be one of the great generations, or they could be the next version of the 70's yuppies.
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I just see all these great people in my life and am so encouraged. They can be selfish, but they also volunteer at a greater rate than previous generations.

Our generation said we won't get fooled again, but we fooled ourselves and we have been fooled many times by others.
 
Rana said:
I just see all these great people in my life and am so encouraged. They can be selfish, but they also volunteer at a greater rate than previous generations.

Our generation said we won't get fooled again, but we fooled ourselves and we have been fooled many times by others.
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You ain't kidding. I love how the hippies went from peace, love and brotherhood to being some of the most ruthless Capitalists since the Robber-Barons.
 
Steelplate said:
Me too....I was a little too young for the hippie thing...I was born in '65....but I still believe in Peace, Love and Brotherhood.
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I never outgrew it, lol, still Peace, Love and Humanhood, lol, still the rebel! The only thing I outgrew was love the one you're with, ;)
 
Rana said:
I never outgrew it, lol, still Peace, Love and Humanhood, lol, still the rebel! The only thing I outgrew was love the one you're with, ;)
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Well...sure...humanhood is a great word. But I'm more of a hippie Jesus freak kind of guy. I'm damn near a Gnostic Christian...but I retain much of what I was taught. You ever read about Gnosticism? Interesting.stuff.
 
Steelplate said:
Every time we kill one of them over there, a group of one time moderates become radicalized.

It's a slippery slope that we should be trying to claw our way up from. I don't know what the answer is....I'm not a Middle East expert.
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Guess we should just pack it in and give up.....report to the nearest Mosque in the morning....and being your wife and daughters for clit removal.
 
NOVA said:
Guess we should just pack it in and give up.....report to the nearest Mosque in the morning....and being your wife and daughters for clit removal.
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Guess we should just keep.killing them...and then they'll kill us, and we'll kill them and.....

You can report to a mosque if you choose, I won't....I'm a Christian
 
Threedee said:
The answer is, they are going to keep attacking us. If drones create more terrorists, they deserve to die just as much as the ones we were droning in the first place. Also, they are a pathetic society and will never do anything like try to increase their standard of living.
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So we do nothing and just keep beating our heads against the wall and wondering why we have a headache?
 
Steelplate said:
Well...sure...humanhood is a great word. But I'm more of a hippie Jesus freak kind of guy. I'm damn near a Gnostic Christian...but I retain much of what I was taught. You ever read about Gnosticism? Interesting.stuff.
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I have, if I would choose a form of Christianity it would be Gnosticism. The opposite of Orthodoxy. I tend to love the Mystic sides of religions.

I was raised Roman Catholic, but found Joseph Campbell, Elaine Pagel, Karen Armstrong, and numerous other authors which have made me have much doubt about Catholism and all religions, but that is my walk and I usually try to live and let live, well, except on an anonymous forum :).
 
Rana said:
I have, if I would choose a form of Christianity it would be Gnosticism. The opposite of Orthodoxy. I tend to love the Mystic sides of religions.

I was raised Roman Catholic, but found Joseph Campbell, Elaine Pagel, Karen Armstrong, and numerous other authors which have made me have much doubt about Catholism and all religions, but that is my walk and I usually try to live and let live, well, except on an anonymous forum :).
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I never noticed any mysticism involved...it was more like an Eastern Religion....kind of a path to enlightenment thing. I could be wrong, I merely read about it on the net and read the Gnostic Gospels.

I believe that Mary Magdalene was an Apostle and I also tend to believe that Judas may not have been the betrayor that the church makes him out to be, but may have chosen by Christ to turn him in to the Pharisees. After all, Christ knew his fate and he knew how it had to happen.
 
Rose Captain said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/24/w...el-hears-testimony-on-use-of-drones.html?_r=0

It's pretty common knowledge that US foreign policy, combined with terrorist groups' tendency to aid the reconstruction of localities, is really good at creating terrorists - far better than any propaganda. Now Congress has been notified of an incident that puts our use of drones into question. It poses the question: Do drones produce terrorism, not just fight it?
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EVERYWHERE we use drones, there is a rise in terrorism .. but that's part of the reason why we use them. Terrorism is big business for the MIC.

We use 'double-tap' drone strikes .. which are the very definition of terrorism. We'll bomb some people .. even at a funeral .. then when first-responders rush in to save the injured .. often women and children .. we bomb them again .. killing doctors, firefighters, ambulace personnel, and all the first responders.

Of course its terrorism and we know it.
 
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