drones "count all military age men in strike zone as "combatants"

USFREEDOM911 said:
They're going to use them to keep track of English soccer hooligans first.
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As usual you are at least 20 to 30 years out of date, the true football hooligans are now in places like the Ukraine which is jointly hosting Euro 2012 with Poland. There has been a general warning issued to black, Jewish and Asian fans about the racist nature of far right football supporters in the Ukraine

 
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I think it's interesting that people advocate strikes on militants who are "out of reach of conventional forces" (in another country). I wonder how those people would react to a drone strike by China on LA because a couple of people who were seeking asylum had made it to California.
 
Personally, I support my boss' efforts to kill fucking terrorists. Hopefully, he will find a way to make Pakistan suffer for torturing the doctor who helped us get Bin Laden, and for harboring the motherfucker in the first place.
 
C'Thulhu said:
At the bottom of each post there is an edit option.

Also, Obomber is a lulz term.
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can be. I don't use it most of the time, just on wars -including Libya, which we fractured -LED by the US, with NATO sock puppets.
At the end it was only the old colonials GB, France and the US -the rest of NATO dropped out.

If you know about the imprisionment of sub-saharans without trails, militias running the country, and even the cities.
Then you know we destroyed a working state for a fragmented militia run areas,
The "revolutionarys" were E Africa thugs, who leader "swore off" ties to al_Qaeda. Funy thing is the MAN_PADS and Stingers went missing when the Rebels captured Tripoli. Thanklfully many qwere recovered, as they tries to smuggle them out thru Egypt.

NTC had recent elections(finally), but lacks real authority and popular support.,so Libyba has been fractured along tribal/ethnic enclaves.

So much beter then Gaddafi *-when libya had one of the highest standards of living in Africa. before "liberationby assassination of Gaddafi"
Women participated in gov't - we backed a gang in PICK UP TRUCKS, whom were pissed off Bengazi wasn't getting enough oil money.

It's a sordid tale of breaking existing China's SCO contracts, for first rights of refusal for the EU (China refused to back the Rebels), on new contracts for Libyan light sweet crude -easily extracted.

This is a short list of the mayhem we sow. Obomber is no LOL (laughing matter). I could list a bill of particulars; but Americans are too fucking dumb to understand 'American Exceptionalism" used as "hard power" is espensive, and breeds hate.

Contrasr China use of soft power to get minerals inAfrica -by treaty.
They'll back it up some day with hard power -but now they're content to see us flail like a bird stuck in tarball for the present
 
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Disillusioned said:
I think it's interesting that people advocate strikes on militants who are "out of reach of conventional forces" (in another country). I wonder how those people would react to a drone strike by China on LA because a couple of people who were seeking asylum had made it to California.
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the consequences of such an act would be significantly different from what pakistan or afghanistan could do

i am sorry to say that when it comes to us drone strikes, we are careful not to use them against countries that could defend themselves from us or significantly strike back at us

besides, drones have a significantly short range and from china to the us is not within the range of any current drones
 
Don Quixote said:
the consequences of such an act would be significantly different from what pakistan or afghanistan could do

i am sorry to say that when it comes to us drone strikes, we are careful not to use them against countries that could defend themselves from us or significantly strike back at us

besides, drones have a significantly short range and from china to the us is not within the range of any current drones
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Ok then Cuba on Miami? It's the same metaphor. There are reasons for jurisdiction and obeying them. We would not take kindly to an african warlord arresting people in New York.
 
Yurt said:
what? because i prove you and your lefty gang's lies and hypocrisy....you want me to get a new schtick?

pound sand wuss. really, pound sand. you never back up your claims, you never give links....seriously, why?
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Why do you respond to him?
You know all he's going to do is run around what you ask and avoid posting anything of substance.
Ignore him and embrace zen.
 
WHITE HOUSE PUSHES BACK ON NYTIMES CLAIM

Sen. Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, the ranking Republican on the Intelligence Committee, told Fox News he is unaware of any change in the way the U.S. counts corpses after drone strikes or other counterterrorism operations. But he added that if it is true, as the Times reported on Tuesday, that Obama has "embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties," then the administration should have briefed the committee on the change in methodology.
Chambliss emphasized that both the George W. Bush and Obama administrations have tried to limit civilian deaths.

"There's no question we are doing a better job" in more recent years, he said, citing advances in technology; but Chambliss acknowledged that "collateral damage is always an issue" and said both administrations witnessed efforts by those who are hostile to America to "magnify" the problem, so as to "inflame" local sentiment against the U.S.

If the administration is correct in its assertions that civilian casualties have never been lower since the 9/11 attacks, outside observers believe the drone strikes can still have a damaging impact without necessarily resulting in the deaths of innocents.
EDIT MINE:( DUH. self perpetuating war)

"Certainly, they are not without side effects, collateral damage," said Frederic Wehrey, a senior associate in the Middle East program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, in an appearance on Fox News' "Happening Now with Jon Scott and Jenna Lee."

"There's mounting evidence that much of the radicalization of the Yemeni population in these provinces is because of the drone strikes. The drone strikes are turning the population against the U.S., so it's not simply a fight against the Yemeni government, but more and more against the United States. And that is certainly attracting many of these fighters from other countries, like Somalia and Afghanistan."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1wPfM4ATY
 
Disillusioned said:
Ok then Cuba on Miami? It's the same metaphor. There are reasons for jurisdiction and obeying them. We would not take kindly to an african warlord arresting people in New York.
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he would get his ass thrown in jail

you missed the entire point of my post - the us does the things that it does because the nations/people that we do it to cannot defend themselves
 
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