DOW 23k ?

noise said:
still stuck on that meme? It's minutia.
Tax Reform/simplification -reduction of corporate rates along with closing loopholes, could put us at 4% GDP.

But the "resistance" doesn't care about the American economy. too bad for the USA
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They only care about stopping Trump---even if means stopping the economy.
 
Corazón said:
How much of that was due to Quantitative Easing?
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The DOW is setting records under Trump but GDP is the number to watch.

It's 3.1% over the second quarter [the first Trump quarter] which critics and funsucks will either attribute to Obama or claim quarterly stats are meaningless. But what's important is it's *as predicted*.

Trump supporters were confident Trump would be at least a good 'economy president' and possibly an historically good economy president.

And to that we say, so far so good.
 
Micawber said:
"Climate Change Will Hit Southern Poor Hardest, U.S. Economic Analysis Shows" Sorry Johnny Reb, but your own votes are fucking yourself and your family. Stop fucking your own family. Nasty. Seriously, as usual the poor are being exploited by the rich. That trickle down you are feeling down your back? That's Trump piss. He's telling you it's raining money. It's raining acid.
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Global warming? :rofl2:
 
Godless America said:
They are powerless to do either, they just don't realize it.
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Well, they and the establishment can and have impeded Trumps legislative agenda.

Their problem is they are powerless to stop his pen. Amidst all the noise, Trump has been quietly busy undoing many Obama era regulations and many of these were economic related. The business community knows what's going which explains their optimism.

It's only a matter of time before the economic numbers begin to reflect it.
 
Darth Omar said:
Well, they and the establishment can and have impeded Trumps legislative agenda.

Their problem is they are powerless to stop his pen. Amidst all the noise, Trump has been quietly busy undoing many Obama era regulations and many of these were economic related. The business community knows what's going which explains their optimism.

It's only a matter of time before the economic numbers begin to reflect it.
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Obama set a powerful precedent for using the power of the presidential pen to evade the separation of powers.

It's amusing to watch DEMOCRITES squawk about Trump's use of the same trick they lauded when Obama used it.

What a timeline!
 
Mott the Hoople said:
In reality Trump doesn’t have to do anything. Investors just need to have confidence he will. Just as money has no real value. It only has perceived value and that perceived value is only as valid as the people’s confidence in it.
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sure. and if we don't get tax reform the GDP growth will stall.
 
Darth Omar said:
The DOW is setting records under Trump but GDP is the number to watch.

It's 3.1% over the second quarter [the first Trump quarter] which critics and funsucks will either attribute to Obama or claim quarterly stats are meaningless. But what's important is it's *as predicted*.

Trump supporters were confident Trump would be at least a good 'economy president' and possibly an historically good economy president.

And to that we say, so far so good.
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I'm sure de-regulation (like the EPA etc.)has helped a lot -
but we really need tax simplification too
 
noise said:
sure. and if we don't get tax reform the GDP growth will stall.
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It's a mistake to think 'Trump hasn't done anything' with respect to the economy.

Easing the regulatory burden on small and large businesses is certainly 'not nothing' lol. In fact, the shortest and most efficient route to jumpstart the sluggish Obama era economy is with the pen---just undo much of the regulations Obama instituted via executive order, and let the economy do the rest.

It's not genius. Hell, I could have done it lol. But I'm not president. And for this I'm thankful, actually.
 
Darth Omar said:
It's a mistake to think 'Trump hasn't done anything' with respect to the economy.

Easing the regulatory burden on small and large businesses is certainly 'not nothing' lol. In fact, the shortest and most efficient route to jumpstart the sluggish Obama era economy is with the pen---just undo much of the regulations Obama instituted via executive order, and let the economy do the rest.

It's not genius. Hell, I could have done it lol. But I'm not president. And for this I'm thankful, actually.
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absolutely agree. rollback by Congressional Review act has definatelly helped.

I'm thinking though to get to 4% we need some actual tax reform
 
noise said:
no. not trickle down. Tax cuts across brackets, but less deductions to provide simplification.
The exception is the corporate rate -highest in the world 35% - of course needs correcting down.
But there too -many less deductions

The middle class gets 2x the standard deduction - which makes it a PROGRESSIVE TAX
in that more low income Americans won't pay taxes
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Yea, yea, yea..heard all this nonsense before and not one of the predictions ever come true. The GOP engineers more loopholes and deductions, get a big hand out, the deficits get inflated, government gets starved for resources, and it does exactly shit for the economy.

I’m not buying it. It’s another giveaway to the rich.
 
noise said:
sure. and if we don't get tax reform the GDP growth will stall.
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Supply sides,aka, reverse socialist have been making predictions like that for decades and not one single one of them has ever come true. I defy you to provide empirical data to support that claim. Good luck. You will need it . No reverse socialist has done it yet.
 
Micawber said:
"Climate Change Will Hit Southern Poor Hardest, U.S. Economic Analysis Shows"

Sorry Johnny Reb, but your own votes are fucking yourself and your family. Stop fucking your own family. Nasty.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/...imate-change-hihg-emissions-economic-analysis

Seriously, as usual the poor are being exploited by the rich. That trickle down you are feeling down your back? That's Trump piss. He's telling you it's raining money. It's raining acid.
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I flew over a wind farm not too long ago. Counted 25 of them. Funny thing was that none of the turbines were spinning round and round.

Now I ain’t no wind power expert, but I suspect the turbines have to move in order to generate energy?
 
CFM said:
Since when is letting people keep more of what they earned socialism?
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When you rig the system so the wealth generated by those who produce it is artificially directed into the hand of a few. Do you honestly believe that the working, skilled, and professional classes in this nation get their fair share of the wealth they produce? If you do your just another useful fool for the reverse socialist.
 
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