Don't you ever say 'black on black crime' again

christiefan915 said:
The people who hold negative views of blacks, of course.
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https://catwafitz.wordpress.com/2007/05/10/stop-black-on-black-crime-enough-is-enough/

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I don't think she would agree with you.
 
Konono said:
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Why do you think Dr. Amos Wilson doesn't like black people Christie?
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Doesn't sound that way to me.

Wilson believed the power differential between Africans and non-Africans was the major social problem of the 21st century.[SUP][2][/SUP] He viewed this power differential, and white racist attitudes, as principally responsible for the existence of racism, domination, oppression, and deprivation in the lives and interpersonal relations of black Americans and other people of African descent.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP]. As an African-centered scholar, Wilson felt that the social, political and economic problems that blacks faced were unlike those of other ethnicities and thus equal education ought to be abandoned for a curriculum tailor-made for black America.

Wilson affirmed that the purpose of education and intelligence for black people is to solve the problems in their communities and secure their survival in the world and any school—regardless of prestige—that failed to provide blacks with the tools necessary for these tasks was in fact mis-educating them.[SUP][3][/SUP] Wilson taught that the notion of progress (i.e. situations and conditions necessarily get better over time) to which many Blacks subscribe is really a fallacy and that integration is based upon economic expansion and prosperity and if reversed could result in racial conflict. Blacks should thus be prepared for this potential conflict with the understanding that integration does not necessarily last forever.[SUP][4][/SUP] Wilson also held that racism is structurally and institutionally driven and will persist even when more overt expressions of it are no longer present. Racism, then, must be transformed structurally if Blacks are to improve:


"As a matter of fact, this society is going to become more supremely racist when it is apparently non-racist...you can have a society that removes all public expression of racism, you can have a society where people no longer overtly express racial hatred and race[sic] statement and behavior is outlawed, but you can still have a system that destroys millions and millions of Black people...You must recognize that racism is not an attitude; it is not a feeling of hatred toward another people...you must understand that racism and white supremacy is in the very structures and values of the institutions of the society itself! And until you revolve and change those structures and attitudes and values, you will always be under the bottom I don't give a damn if white people expressed no hatred toward you."[SUP][5][/SUP]
 
But you said only people who don't like black people say black on black violence. Changing your tune so quickly?
 
Konono said:
You said it right here.

Dr. Wilson said black on black violence, it is even the title of his book. According to you, he must hold negative views of blacks, of course.
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You're really trying for a "gotcha" but I can't oblige you. Read the comments in context. Obviously I was talking about JPP posters.

christie: People were talking about black on black crime long before BLM. It's the favorite subject of, shall we say, a certain group of people.
Komono: I wonder if Christie will explain who the "certain group of people" are.
christie: Read the names on my thread ban lists for starters.
Konomo: What is their group called? Be specific, I really want to know who this certain group of people are.
christie: The people who hold negative views of blacks, of course.

Then you tried to claim that Dr. Amos Wilson doesn't like black people because of a book title.

Konono: Why do you think Dr. Amos Wilson doesn't like black people Christie?
Konomo: But you said only people who don't like black people say black on black violence. Changing your tune so quickly?
christie: Where did I say "only"? Btw, where is your proof Dr. Wilson doesn't like black people?
Konono: You said it right here. Dr. Wilson said black on black violence, it is even the title of his book. According to you, he must hold negative views of blacks, of course.

The full title of his book: Black-on-Black Violence: The Psychodynamics of Black Self-Annihilation in Service of White Domination (Sababu N. Plata (Editor)

The blurb: BLACK on BLACK VIOLENCE represents a distinct milestone in criminology and Afrikan Studies. Its explanatory perspectives on the Sociopsycho-logical and politicoeconomic causes of Black-on-Black violence are exceptionally insightful, incisive, and iconoclastic. The psychodynamics of the Black-on-Black criminal are presented here with a depth and clarity rarely seen before.

Now if you want to prove to me that the people on my ban list are psychologists, sociologists and scholars who have authored in-depth studies, I'll reconsider that list.
 
I asked you to be specific and you said: The people who hold negative views of blacks, of course.

You didn't mention anyone else, only people who hold negative views. When I showed you black people using the phrase, you quickly changed your tune and are now pretending you really meant other people besides those who hold negative views.
 
My guess is that our refusal to talk about it translates into complete inaction, and nothing changes for at least another decade.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I'm wondering why they aren't talking about how to behave when approached by an Officer and what NOT TO DO, in order to lower your chances of being shot.
It seems to me that some people feel entitled to act out and fot there to be no consequeces.
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It's one of those things thou shalt not discuss lol.

If one were to go about examining the issue scientifically, they would only study the group of blacks that obeyed cops and throw the rest out of the data set. Only then, could one make a determination on the extent of the problem. Reason being, ANYONE who disobeys a cop risks having things go wrong. In other words, it's impossible to know whether race was the determining factor as opposed to cop disobedience.

Which is a huge problem if your hypothesis is that being the wrong color puts you at risk.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a liberal think tank to do such a study. Because there's a risk they may find out that how individuals behave when confronted by cops trumps any other factors---even race. And I'd wager the risk is pretty high.
 
christie: Read the names on my thread ban lists for starters.
Konomo: What is their group called? Be specific, I really want to know who this certain group of people are.
christie: The people who hold negative views of blacks, of course.

It appears Christie wants to claim that she was only talking about JPP posters. She didn't say that, she said the group of people.

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Damocles said:
When have I ever forced anybody into a racist slum? Think long and hard. Note first that my ancestry isn't just "white" and work from there.

After you are done backpedaling and attempting to make up some reason how the actions of others is "my" fault let's start to look into how much responsibility people have for their own actions.

We can't talk about race relations or racism with any sanity or effectiveness until we begin at a level of understanding and treat people involved in the conversation as if they are actually people. Let's start with something simple, do all lives matter to you?
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In a racist society, everyone who doesn't oppose racism is responsible, surely? Otherwise only members of the German Nazi party were responsible for the concentration camps. Clearly all lives matter to me.
 
NOVA said:
Appalachia: The big white ghetto where

the rate of violent crime is lower than the national average.....98.5 percent white

The Top 10 Poorest Counties in America are in Appalachia

Nothing is complicated if you ignore reality and deny facts.....
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Once again, Nova's brain stops working the nano-second someone tells him what he wants to here. Fortunately I, like countless thousands in America, was taught critical thinking and proper research techniques in high school. Here's what Nova will desperately try to dismiss:


... the poorest U.S. counties are in Appalachia and "happen to be more than 90 percent white."

No doubt, some of the poorest are in Appalachia, particularly eastern Kentucky. But looking at several different measures of county poverty results in a more complex picture than Webb suggests.

Measured by median household income, overwhelmingly white Appalachian counties comprise six of the 10 U.S. counties with the lowest median household income. But measured by the poverty rate, only one mostly-white Appalachian county ranks in the 10 poorest. The other nine -- in the South, the Dakotas or Texas -- have larger majorities that are either black, Native American, or Hispanic and Latino. That pattern pretty much holds up when you rank the poorest counties by lowest per capita income.

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...bb-says-poorest-us-counties-are-appalachia-a/
 
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