Do you think they have much on Comey?

[Damocles]

I did w/ what I saw recently about COVID. But there really isn't much comparison here. This board gets very caught up in the whole idea of prove yourself! Prove you have offered condemnation for all sides! I wasn't a Biden fan, but I don't buy into the assumptions about things he did or didn't do. Show me real coercion and inappropriate behavior, and I won't be hypocritical about it.

I have never seen anything like what Trump is doing previously. It's is in broad daylight, it is stark, and beyond all of that - it is being celebrated by many of his supporters. Like, they simply do not care about the implications, or about the overreach.

That's why some keep bringing up the creep into authoritarianism. That creep relies on a willing populace, which can be defined as a critical mass of those who not only support what's being done, but celebrate it.

I will tell you, that watching what was done to people they agreed with creates a bit of schadenfreude reaction.

It will take a bit, but they'll come around eventually. Many republicans care deeply about the constitution, way more deeply than they care about Trump.

However, the left disregarding what was done to right wingers for those years is foolish, their reaction comes with that history. Telling them they shouldn't care because they were better at plausible deniability?

That these people were better at creating minimal plausible deniability while still meeting openly with members of social media that would ban folks, AGs that would then prosecute folks, etc. doesn't change that they were meeting openly with the people that were prosecuting their political enemies and banning they and their friends from the public forum.

 

[Earl]

Comey will be either convicted or bankrupted.

Or both but either is good with me.

 

[Jarod]

It would be difficult to convict any democrat for politically motivated crimes in Colorado. In Virginia it is more specific to powerful folks in DC. In Colorado, it would be specific to democrats.

Ok, what about a swing state? New Mexico or Nevada?

 

[BartenderElite]

I will tell you, that watching what was done to people they agreed with creates a bit of schadenfreude reaction.

It will take a bit, but they'll come around eventually. Many republicans care deeply about the constitution, way more deeply than they care about Trump.

However, the left disregarding what was done to right wingers for those years is foolish, their reaction comes with that history. Telling them they shouldn't care because they were better at plausible deniability?

That these people were better at creating minimal plausible deniability while still meeting openly with members of social media that would ban folks, AGs that would then prosecute folks, etc. doesn't change that they were meeting openly with the people that were prosecuting their political enemies and banning they and their friends from the public forum.

I do see the hypocrisy on both sides. For me, it's more a matter of scale. I do think what Trump is doing is really weakening some of the guardrails we have in much more impactful ways. But I'm open to disagreement on that. Maybe that's a residual of my more partisan leanings, from when I felt more strongly about that.

We have really devolved in terms of how we see people who we disagree with, or political sides. I think when I was growing up, it was more "Americans who disagree." Then it became more "adversaries." Now, it's "enemies."

And when it's "enemies," the psychology on both sides changes dramatically. People are dug in. There is almost a barrier in their mindset that does not allow for any information which doesn't 100% support their POV or conclusion.

Thus, the era we are in, which is almost defined by its hypocrisy and pure cognitive dissonance.

 

[Damocles]

Ok, what about a swing state? New Mexico or Nevada?

New Mexico is no swing state. Let's say they were in Texas, do you think it would matter? I don't really know. I'd have to hear all the evidence though. If it were a real swing state, half the jury would be democrats and I have had no evidence that there are more than 3% of y'all that are willing to set aside that blue jersey before making a decision.

 

[Earl]

When members of legally and Congressionally authorized law enforcement, ICE and BP, are shot at, doxed and assaulted, with the Democrats calling them Nazis, Hitler, and Fascists, how long will it be before they respond in kind?

The anarchists are poking the bear.

There aren’t many guardrails when Democrats attack law enforcement.

The bear in the White House will defend law enforcement when the Democrats won’t.

 

[Into the Night]

You are playing word games, and it’s clear to, kinda pitiful.

What makes you believe the video exists?

Inversion fallacy. You word games never work, Pretender. You can't blame them on anybody else!

 

[Damocles]

I do see the hypocrisy on both sides. For me, it's more a matter of scale. I do think what Trump is doing is really weakening some of the guardrails we have in much more impactful ways. But I'm open to disagreement on that. Maybe that's a residual of my more partisan leanings, from when I felt more strongly about that.

We have really devolved in terms of how we see people who we disagree with, or political sides. I think when I was growing up, it was more "Americans who disagree." Then it became more "adversaries." Now, it's "enemies."

And when it's "enemies," the psychology on both sides changes dramatically. People are dug in. There is almost a barrier in their mindset that does not allow for any information which doesn't 100% support their POV or conclusion.

Thus, the era we are in, which is almost defined by its hypocrisy and pure cognitive dissonance.

And here is where you, myself, and Charlie Kirk all agree. We need to be able to talk about the things we disagree on without thinking the other folks are "evil".

 

[Into the Night]

Are you trying to equate minimizing misinformation about COVID when millions were dying to the FCC strong arming a TV comedian because he pissed off the President?

Trump is not the FCC.

Democrat misinformation about Covid is STILL a problem today. I call it the Church of Covid.

 

[Earl]

It’s hard to talk with people who are doxing you and shooting at you, at your president.

Calling you Hitler, Nazi, Fascist…yes very hard.

 

[domer76]

And here is where you, myself, and Charlie Kirk all agree. We need to be able to talk about the things we disagree on without thinking the other folks are "evil".

Kirk did no such thing.

 

[Jarod]

New Mexico is no swing state. Let's say they were in Texas, do you think it would matter? I don't really know. I'd have to hear all the evidence though. If it were a real swing state, half the jury would be democrats and I have had no evidence that there are more than 3% of y'all that are willing to set aside that blue jersey before making a decision.

I have always found most jurors make a strong effort to follow the law, the lawyers will get rid of anyone who shows a strong preference, or if their social media shows a strong preference.

I honestly do not know the evidence yet and no opinion as to his guilt. If I were a lawyer I’d push hard that this is a political prosecution, using some of trump’s comments as evidence.

I believe with strong evidence he would likely be convicted Even with a slightly biased jury, and vice versa. It is harder to convict than acquit.

You you believe he would have been indicted if Trump did not demand revenge?

 

[Earl]

Kirk did no such thing.

This post is why you are rated at the Loonie Moony level.

 

[Damocles]

Kirk did no such thing.

Please, it was all he did. He had opinions, yes. You and others disagreed with them, yes. He would give you a microphone and hold a conversation with you. Sometimes they left in disagreement, but there was a conversation. Sometimes the folks got up to the mic and just said nasty garbage, he would let them and they would leave. I didn't even see him get angry at those folks. He'd say something like, "Okay. You just spent all day waiting in line for that." and then "Next question."

 

[Earl]

Accountability is not revenge.


Spiritually, the right hand symbolizes power, authority, action, and honor, rooted in ancient cultural traditions where it was associated with good, strength, and God's divine power. It represents God's might and authority, as seen in the phrase "at the right hand of God," signifying a position of highest honor and power. For people, it signifies their actions, responsibilities, and the things they hold sacred or most important.

I believe that President Trump sits at the right hand of God.

He was spared death by a few millimeters.

The left will try to kill him…again but he sits at the right hand of God.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Biden was too demented to be indicted for mishandling classified documents. They went after Trump for it. Obviously Trump is not suffering from dementia like Biden is.

I always find it amazing how cult members like you simply live in your own reality.
Biden didn't refuse to return classified documents. Biden didn't try to hide documents when a court subpoenaed them. That is why Trump was indicted. If he had simply returned the documents, he would not have been indicted.

 

[BartenderElite]

Accountability is not revenge.

Then why did you post about revenge earlier in this thread?

 

[Jarod]

Accountability is not revenge.


Spiritually, the right hand symbolizes power, authority, action, and honor, rooted in ancient cultural traditions where it was associated with good, strength, and God's divine power. It represents God's might and authority, as seen in the phrase "at the right hand of God," signifying a position of highest honor and power. For people, it signifies their actions, responsibilities, and the things they hold sacred or most important.

I believe that President Trump sits at the right hand of God.

He was spared death by a few millimeters.

The left will try to kill him…again but he sits at the right hand of God.

Does this mean you believe him to be infallible?

 

[Earl]

Then why did you post about revenge earlier in this thread?

To tell you that I am about revenge but President Trump is about accountability.

 

[Earl]

Does this mean you believe him to be infallible?

I will repeat…”at the right hand of God," signifying a position of highest honor and power. For people, it signifies their actions, responsibilities, and the things they hold sacred or most important.

This is where I believe Trump now resides.