Do you hail the religion of peace.....
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So facts about Chicago bother you?
christiefan915
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Are you trying to make this about religion? Newsflash bravs, Uzbekistan is almost 90% Muslim. Obviously the nanny was mentally-ill. There's no need to conflate this horrible tragedy with terrorists.
christiefan915
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So it only counts if the people were shouting slogans? Interesting.
christiefan915
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Absolutely Christie.....all those terrorists bastards that are slicing off heads, drowning and burning people in cages, slaughtering and raping children because they like it, in the name of Islam are mentally ill.....you gotta be insane to think you're gonna get to heaven by being martyred and get to bang 70 some virgins......yet they believe it....
It only counts as insanity connected with religion if they plainly show it to be so....
The public verbal proclamation of shouting your religious slogans leaves no doubt about your reasons for doing what you do....otherwise they're just run of the mill, plain insane.
whether its a religious loon telling us they murdered an abortion doctor because of the Bible or some crazy Muslim walking through streets carrying a severed head,
shouting 'Allahu Akbar'......the equivalency is undeniable.....the only difference is how infrequent one is a how wide spread the other......
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The public verbal proclamation of shouting your religious slogans leaves no doubt about your reasons for doing what you do.....
whether is a religious loon telling us they murdered an abortion doctor because of the Bible or some crazy Muslim walking through streets carrying a severed head,
shouting 'Allahu Akbar'......the equivalency is undeniable.....except for how infrequent one is a how wide spread the other......
YOU obviously connected Truman using atomic bombs on Japan as some kind of religious thing....you were thanking the poster....was Truman a religious nut...a Christian nut ?
How the hell did you tiny brain arrive at that conclusion....that made you thank the poster ?
Or maybe you and Rana believe Truman was just plain psycho...
Actually, there are many stories that fill our papers of mentally ill people committing heinous acts because they were told to do it by God. They may not run into the streets shouting, but they give the bizarre defense that it was told to them by their Christian God.
One poor child was killed by his crazy mother stuffing pages of the Bible down the child's throat. Parents not seeking medical help for children, letting them die because of their beliefs.
They are just crazy.
Guess the paper I READ EVERY day never hears about all those mentally ill people committing heinous acts because they were told to do it by a Christian God.
But I see on occasion one or two that has to do with religion....infrequent as it is......
By it sure reports about all the mentally ill Mulsim people committing heinous acts because of their God, as told to them by the Koran....on a daily basis with
hundreds and hundreds of dead bodies at their feet....
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Hate is such an unfortunate emotion to live with.
Some here will just never learn.
Some here will just never learn.
Right, those Muslims have been living with their hate of the west for centuries....very unfortunate indeed.....
Guess thats why they do the barbaric things they do......
But just FYI, most of the ones that are "here" usually aren't haters....
You lost me at Hiroshima. the bogus idea of "Christian mass murder" ( it was an act of war ) but the individual babysitter OP seems delusional..
The problem is trying to take 1 incident and make it more then what is it. It has nothing to do with Islam/Xtians
Not to say there isn't religious warfare, but not in the OP. Allāhu Akbar utterance or not.
The problem is trying to take 1 incident and make it more then what is it. It has nothing to do with Islam/Xtians
Not to say there isn't religious warfare, but not in the OP. Allāhu Akbar utterance or not.
you bolded "terrorists" and that is correct -the behaviors you mention are ISIL - the burning in cages was the Jordanian pilot.
ISIL is NOT Islam as a whole, only a small fraction of salafi Islam - salafi jihadi to be more precise.
I am fine with calling it "violent Islamic extremists" -which Obama will not use -that is exactly the definition.
However to paint Islam as a whole or "the religion of peace" (whatever that is supposed to mean) as innately violent
is where I get off.
There is the concept of Submission in Islam, but the submission is to Allah on an individual basis.
There are some in Islam who are originalists who bastardize the text to justify their extremism,
but we have the same thing by fundamentalist Xtians
The religion of peace is a phrase used by west for some reason not understood by me.....and I am beginning to believe that Islam is innately violent...and always has been violent
from its inception.......violent even to its own people and with a hatred of the west and non Muslims for centuries....
To claim that people who punish people by killing them for blaspheming Islam while shouting ‘Allah is greatest’ has ‘nothing to do with Islam’ is madness. Because the violence of the Islamists is, truthfully, only to do with Islam: the worst version of Islam, certainly, but Islam nonetheless.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/01/religion-of-peace-is-not-a-harmless-platitude/
The article from the above link is how I've come to view the terrorists problem....agree or not, the article is worth reading.
It is not my claim that every Muslim in the entire world is a terrorist.
from its inception.......violent even to its own people and with a hatred of the west and non Muslims for centuries....
To claim that people who punish people by killing them for blaspheming Islam while shouting ‘Allah is greatest’ has ‘nothing to do with Islam’ is madness. Because the violence of the Islamists is, truthfully, only to do with Islam: the worst version of Islam, certainly, but Islam nonetheless.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/01/religion-of-peace-is-not-a-harmless-platitude/
The article from the above link is how I've come to view the terrorists problem....agree or not, the article is worth reading.
It is not my claim that every Muslim in the entire world is a terrorist.
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just like there isn't any personification of images in Islamic art. It goes to adoration, and making graven images.
The thing about ISIL is it is the high point of political Islam coupled with political jihad.
It's a virulent strain of Islam to be sure, but it's not Islamic totality itself. Islam has many sects and practices
there is Hadith regarding personification of Mohammed -but not the text ,and not always so. There are middle ages pics of him him but they are sparse
just like there isn't any personification of images in Islamic art. It goes to adoration, and making graven images.
The thing about ISIL is it is the high point of political Islam coupled with political jihad.
It's a virulent strain of Islam to be sure, but it's not Islamic totality itself. Islam has many sects and practices
christiefan915
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Why are you diverting from this sick woman into terrorism? And if you knew anything at all about Islam you'd know that terrorism is forbidden the same as it is in other religions. And the "banging 70 virgins" stuff is fake also.
christiefan915
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My opinion about Hiroshima and Nagasaki is well known on this forum. Apparently you don't have a problem with all the innocent people killed in those attacks. And don't feed me the BS that it was the only way to end the war, we've learned a lot from the records that wasn't out in the open before. Maybe you should look at some websites that discuss this rather than relying on that rah rah BS that's been the story for so long.
"On May 10, 1945, three days after Germany had surrendered to the Allied powers and ended World War II in Europe, a carefully selected group of scientists and military personnel met in an office in Los Alamos, New Mexico. With Germany out of the war, the top minds within the Manhattan Project, the American effort to design an atomic bomb, focused on the choices of targets within Japan. The group was loosely known as the Target Committee, and the question they sought to answer essentially was this: Which of the preserved Japanese cities would best demonstrate the destructive power of the atomic bomb?
General Leslie Groves, the Army engineer in charge of the Manhattan Project, had been ruminating on targets since late 1944; at a preliminary meeting two weeks earlier, he had laid down his criteria. The target should: possess sentimental value to the Japanese so its destruction would “adversely affect” the will of the people to continue the war; have some military significance—munitions factories, troop concentrations, and so on; be mostly intact, to demonstrate the awesome destructive power of an atomic bomb; and be big enough for a weapon of the atomic bomb’s magnitude."
http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...hima-nagasaki-atomic-bomb-anniversary/400448/