Do soldiers fight for a flag, or what it represents?

[Русский агент]

I wish you were smart enough to comprehend how racist this shit is.

I spit in the face of the black guy.

 

[Русский агент]

Once Europe was conquered, Germany could use the entire continent for it's totalitarianism -and they would have.

Add in the fall of the Soviet Union, and Japanese taking over China and SE asia, and eventually Australia.

That would leave the US against the entire fascist world

In the eyes of Althea and her ilk, the US is the entire fascist world.

 

[Русский агент]

Real soldiers either come of military families and take it for granted or, much more commonly, are poor and in need of work. After a while they may kid themselves about flags, military bands and all that crap, but they basically fight for money, surely?

It seems that the old adage about blind pigs is correct.

Well done, Welshman.

 

[Русский агент]

you're an idiot, always about race with you. YOU are the problem.
give it a rest. You think for one minute if it was a bunch of white players disrespecting the flag us who are against the disrespect would suddenly say it's ok they're white?
really?

you're an idiot, with no stance on this subject, so stay out of the thread. Start a thread about how whitey has held you down and talk amongst your racist friends in it.

Remind me what liberals said about Tim Tebow's kneeling as an NFL player, will you?

 

[blackascoal]

The U.S. was always in danger during WW2. Had Hitlers U-Boat campaign worked we would have had limited defense from an invasion. He did in fact land German spies on U.S. soil via U-Boat. To make the statement that we were never in
danger is a false one. That war could have gone either way quite a few times.

This is a good discussion, and one I believe to be germane to the OP.

Truth is, WW2 was a war of choice for America. Sure there are good arguments for stopping the plague of nazis .. but we entered the war by choice.

England and Churchill were begging for us to get in, and FDR badly wanted to get in. But most Americans wanted no part in it. FDR was bound by law and the isolationist sentiment in America at the time.

FDR had a plan. He goaded and pushed the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor .. an attack that should have surprised no one.

The country no longer had a choice.

 

[Minister of Truth]

This is a good discussion, and one I believe to be germane to the OP.

Truth is, WW2 was a war of choice for America. Sure there are good arguments for stopping the plague of nazis .. but we entered the war by choice.

England and Churchill were begging for us to get in, and FDR badly wanted to get in. But most Americans wanted no part in it. FDR was bound by law and the isolationist sentiment in America at the time.

FDR had a plan. He goaded and pushed the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor .. an attack that should have surprised no one.

The country no longer had a choice.

So, did the Japanese attack Pearl Harbour, or not? This is the exact same argument that CSA apologists make when they claim that Lincoln goaded the unsophisticated southerners into attacking Fort Sumter.

 

[blackascoal]

So, did the Japanese attack Pearl Harbour, or not? This is the exact same argument that CSA apologists make when they claim that Lincoln goaded the unsophisticated southerners into attacking Fort Sumter.

Absolutely they attacked .. as FDR hoped they would.

The USS. Ward sank a Japanese minisub in Pearl Harbor Bay one hour before the 'surprise' attack began.

Point being, FDR wanted to go to war more than the American people did.

Pearl Harbor: Hawaii Was Surprised; FDR Was Not
https://www.thenewamerican.com/cult...pearl-harbor-hawaii-was-surprised-fdr-was-not

War is a Racket.

 

[Phantasmal]

You really should never question another person's intelligence. You are the dumbest person on the board. By far.

Seriously, have you read CFM, Text, PaleInn or some of the other overt racists?

 

[Minister of Truth]

Absolutely they attacked .. as FDR hoped they would.

The USS. Ward sank a Japanese minisub in Pearl Harbor Bay one hour before the 'surprise' attack began.

Point being, FDR wanted to go to war more than the American people did.

Fair enough, I've always viewed it pretty much the same way.

 

[Phantasmal]

Remind me what liberals said about Tim Tebow's kneeling as an NFL player, will you?

This is how I did it,
[h=1]Matthew 6:5-6New International Version (NIV)[/h][h=3]Prayer[/h][FONT=&quot]5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.[/FONT]

 

[Cypress]

Gee...I wonder what black combat soldiers in WW2 were fighting for? The right to be treated like a second or third class citizen when they returned home? Because this country still had 'whites only' stores, restaurants, bathrooms, etc.

I knew one of the Tuskegee airmen, and while I never directly asked what his motivations were, I was amazed at the sense of honor and pride he felt at serving...especially given the way white America treated him. I have rarely ever met such a forgiving and magnanimous soul; someone who had every right to be resentful but chose to rise above it.

Three of the things he told me I still remember to this day. And I probably always will.
One is that he felt he had something to prove. Maybe even a bit of a chip on his shoulder. To show that black men were equally capable of flying military aircraft with a high level of proficiency. I imagine he was not the only Tuskegee Airman that felt like that.

The second was him at an Alabama railroad station, and the MPs making the black pilots ride in the cattle car, whilst giving the passenger cars to German POWs. Wow. Gripping, and disturbing stuff.

The third thing I remember him saying is that when they began flying their P-51s to escort bombers to Germany, initially the white bomber pilots did not want them for escort. But the proficiency and skill of the Tuskegee Airman became legend overtime, such that white bomber pilots began requesting the them for escort. Incredible.

 

[Русский агент]

This is a good discussion, and one I believe to be germane to the OP. Truth is, WW2 was a war of choice for America. Sure there are good arguments for stopping the plague of nazis .. but we entered the war by choice. England and Churchill were begging for us to get in, and FDR badly wanted to get in. But most Americans wanted no part in it. FDR was bound by law and the isolationist sentiment in America at the time. FDR had a plan. He goaded and pushed the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor .. an attack that should have surprised no one. The country no longer had a choice.

Fun fact, granpa: The US didn't declare war on Nazi Germany. Hitler declared war on the USA.

Maybe history wasn't on the curriculum at the Patrice Lumumba College of Race-baiting Knowledge.

 

[Русский агент]

I knew one of the Tuskegee airmen, and while I never directly asked what his motivations were, I was amazed at the sense of honor and pride he felt at serving...even given the way white America treated him. I have rarely ever met such a forgiving and magnanimous soul; someone who had every right to be resentful. Three of the things he told me I still remember to this day. And I probably always will. One is that he felt he had something to prove. Maybe even a bit of a chip on his shoulder. To show that black men were equally capable of flying military aircraft with a high level of proficiency. I imagine he was not the only Tuskegee Airman that felt like that. The second was him at an Alabama railroad station, and having the MPs make the black pilots ride in the cattle care, whilst giving the passenger cars to German POWs. Wow. Gripping, and disturbing stuff. The third thing I remember him saying is that when they began flying their P-51s to escort bombers to Germany, initially the white bomber pilots did not want them for escort. But the proficiency and skill of the Tuskegee Airman became legend overtime, such that white bomber pilots began requesting the them for escort. Incredible.

It's simply amazing how many combat veterans the abuser claims to have been related to, known and discussed warfare with, isn't it?

I expect he'll relate an anecdote about the time Crispus Attucks spoke to him in a dream next.

 

[Русский агент]

Do you take a knee with Bud when he calls Vietnamese "gooks", you frumpy old flatulent fraud?

 

[Getin the ring]

Sure there are good arguments for stopping the plague of nazis ..


.

ya think?

do you read what you write before you hit send?

 

[Русский агент]

Seriously, have you read CFM, Text, PaleInn or some of the other overt racists?

Yes, and I thread-ban them too, just like I do you and your rayciss pal Desh, you self-serving sanctimonious sack of slimy, stinking shit.

 

[Русский агент]

ya think?

do you read what you write before you hit send?

He uses the language of the colonialists, too. Have you noticed?

How come he speaks the tongue of the WHITE DEVILS?

 

[blackascoal]

I knew one of the Tuskegee airmen, and while I never directly asked what his motivations were, I was amazed at the sense of honor and pride he felt at serving...especially given the way white America treated him. I have rarely ever met such a forgiving and magnanimous soul; someone who had every right to be resentful but chose to rise above it.

Three of the things he told me I still remember to this day. And I probably always will.
One is that he felt he had something to prove. Maybe even a bit of a chip on his shoulder. To show that black men were equally capable of flying military aircraft with a high level of proficiency. I imagine he was not the only Tuskegee Airman that felt like that.

The second was him at an Alabama railroad station, and the MPs making the black pilots ride in the cattle car, whilst giving the passenger cars to German POWs. Wow. Gripping, and disturbing stuff.

The third thing I remember him saying is that when they began flying their P-51s to escort bombers to Germany, initially the white bomber pilots did not want them for escort. But the proficiency and skill of the Tuskegee Airman became legend overtime, such that white bomber pilots began requesting the them for escort. Incredible.

I knew one as well ..

Coleman A Young head and shoulders portrait, taken during his service in World War 2 as part of the Tuskegee Airmen, the first squadron of African American United States Air Force fight and bomber pilots, Baltimore, Maryland, 1944.

He became Mayor of Detroit .. and anyone who knew Coleman Young knew that he did not fight for a flag.

He fought for the American people .. all of them.

 

[Phantasmal]

I knew one of the Tuskegee airmen, and while I never directly asked what his motivations were, I was amazed at the sense of honor and pride he felt at serving...especially given the way white America treated him. I have rarely ever met such a forgiving and magnanimous soul; someone who had every right to be resentful but chose to rise above it.

Three of the things he told me I still remember to this day. And I probably always will.
One is that he felt he had something to prove. Maybe even a bit of a chip on his shoulder. To show that black men were equally capable of flying military aircraft with a high level of proficiency. I imagine he was not the only Tuskegee Airman that felt like that.

The second was him at an Alabama railroad station, and the MPs making the black pilots ride in the cattle car, whilst giving the passenger cars to German POWs. Wow. Gripping, and disturbing stuff.

The third thing I remember him saying is that when they began flying their P-51s to escort bombers to Germany, initially the white bomber pilots did not want them for escort. But the proficiency and skill of the Tuskegee Airman became legend overtime, such that white bomber pilots began requesting the them for escort. Incredible.

What an amazing man, thanks for sharing.

 

[Русский агент]

I knew one as well ..

Sure, you did, granpa.

Say, is that the Coleman Young whose corrupt cronies bankrupted the city, granpa?

The Coleman Young who turned a blind eye to the antics of gangs like the Errol Flynns (east side), Nasty Flynns (later the NF Bangers) and Black Killers and the drug consortiums of the 1980s such as Young Boys Inc., Pony Down, Best Friends, Black Mafia Family, etc?

Did he share his swag with you, granpa?