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Do soldiers fight for a flag, or what it represents?
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Eagle_Eye
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Every man and woman who wears the uniform of the US military swears an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. The flag is a symbol of this great nation so yes they fight for what the flag represents.
So you have some need to make a fool of yourself with ever y post ? You saw the oath.
So you have some need to make a fool of yourself with ever y post ? You saw the oath.
signalmankenneth
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As a former soldier, I would say for what it represents! Freedom of the press, freedom to worship or not at all, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom to protest and petition, to name a few!
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christiefan915
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Well said, Ken. 
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Ken nailed it. That cartoon is perfect.
The whole NFL debate reminds me of when the right was pushing for a flag-burning amendment to the Constitution. Essentially, undermining core American values in the name of "protecting" America. Very backwards.
The whole NFL debate reminds me of when the right was pushing for a flag-burning amendment to the Constitution. Essentially, undermining core American values in the name of "protecting" America. Very backwards.
As a former soldier, I would for what it represents! Freedom of the press, freedom to worship or not at all, freedom of speech[FONT=Roboto, arial, sans-serif], free of assembly, freedom to protest and petition, to name a few!
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"All things may be legal, but all things are not prosperous."
People have the right to act like idiots and people have the right to face consequences.
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Of course. But the people doling out the consequences should ask themselves why they needed to make what Kap did about the flag, instead of talking for even a minute about what his protest was actually about.
i can't speak for every idiot in the nation, but I haven't seen many if any people say that they didn't have a right to sit. they just disagreed with it.
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Where have you been? That's basically the 1st thing Trump said, and his minions all followed. They were immediately very concerned about the NFL enforcing their own private rules & preventing the players from kneeling.
Never having been under a hailstorm of enemy fire myself, I am not in a position to say.
I always got the impression from my great-Uncle, who was at the Battle of the Bulge, that he was fighting for his friends, his mates who in the foxholes with him. I believe to him, the job was to protect his friends and to defeat Hitler so they could all get back home in one piece. I don't know if they were thinking about flags or constitutions foremost in their minds.
I also have a letter from a distant great uncle on my mother's side of the family from the civil war. Written to his wife, circa 1864. He was serving in a Pennsylvania regiment. You would be amazed at how articulate and thoughtful your average Union soldier could be. His writing seems to make it clear he felt their mission was to end slavery in the southern states. Both as a moral, and practical imperative. Gripping stuff, man!
you would think this is a given/known idea. and yes some who die -do actually die for the flag in battle.
Battle flags are a time honored custom
that was on both sides of the civil war-the men who fought had ideals or simply fought for their state or the union itself.
Ken Burns "Civil War" uses letters to follow a few men on both sides thru their civil war battles.
It's a great series to watch
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