Disrespect, Race and Obama Op-Ed by Charles M. Blow for NYT

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/16/opinion/blow-disrespect-race-and-obama.html?_r=0

"In an interview with the BBC this week, Oprah Winfrey said of President Obama: “There is a level of disrespect for the office that occurs. And that occurs, in some cases, and maybe even many cases, because he’s African-American.”

With that remark, Winfrey touched on an issue that many Americans have wrestled with: To what extent does this president’s race animate those loyal to him and those opposed? Is race a primary motivator or a subordinate, more elusive one, tainting motivations but not driving them?

To some degree, the answers lie with the questioners. There are different perceptions of racial realities. What some see as slights, others see as innocent opposition. But there are some objective truths here. Racism is a virus that is growing clever at avoiding detection. Race consciousness is real. Racial assumptions and prejudices are real. And racism is real. But these realities can operate without articulation and beneath awareness. For those reasons, some can see racism where it is absent, and others can willfully ignore any possibility that it could ever be present.

To wit, Rush Limbaugh responded to Winfrey’s comments in his usual acerbic way, lacking all nuance:

“If black people in this country are so mistreated and so disrespected, how in the name of Sam Hill did you happen? Would somebody explain that to me? If there’s a level of disrespect simply because he’s black, then how, Oprah, have you managed to become the — at one time — most popular and certainly wealthiest television personality? How does that happen?”

No one has ever accused Limbaugh of being a complex thinker, but the intellectual deficiency required to achieve that level of arrogance and ignorance is staggering.

Anyone with even a child’s grasp of race understands that for many minorities success isn’t synonymous with the absence of obstacles, but often requires the overcoming of obstacles. Furthermore, being willing to be entertained by someone isn’t the same as being willing to be led by them.

And finally, affinity and racial animosity can dwell together in the same soul. You can like and even admire a person of another race while simultaneously disparaging the race as a whole. One can even be attracted to persons of different races and still harbor racial animus toward their group. Generations of sexual predation and miscegenation during and after slavery in this country have taught us that.

Alas, simpletons have simple understandings of complex concepts.

But it is reactions like Limbaugh’s that lead many of the president’s supporters to believe that racial sensitivity is in retreat and racial hostility is on the rise.

To be sure, the Internet is rife with examples of derogatory, overtly racial comments and imagery referring to the president and his family. But the question remains: Are we seeing an increase in racial hostility or simply an elevation — or uncovering — of it? And are those racist attitudes isolated or do they represent a serious problem? (See JPP)

Much of the discussion about the president, his opposition and his race has centered on the Tea Party, fairly or not.

In one take on race and the Tea Party that went horribly wrong this week, Washington Post opinion writer Richard Cohen wrote:

“Today’s G.O.P. is not racist, as Harry Belafonte alleged about the Tea Party, but it is deeply troubled — about the expansion of government, about immigration, about secularism, about the mainstreaming of what used to be the avant-garde. People with conventional views must repress a gag reflex when considering the mayor-elect of New York — a white man married to a black woman and with two biracial children. (Should I mention that Bill de Blasio’s wife, Chirlane McCray, used to be a lesbian?) This family represents the cultural changes that have enveloped parts — but not all — of America. To cultural conservatives, this doesn’t look like their country at all.”

What exactly are “conventional views” in this context? They appear to refer specifically to opinions about the color of people’s skin.

Cohen seemed to want to recast racial intolerance — and sexual identity discomfort — in a more humane light: as an extension of traditional values rather than as an artifact of traditional bigotry. In addition, Cohen’s attempt to absolve the entirety of the Tea Party without proof fails in the same way that blanket condemnations do. Overreach is always the enemy.

I don’t know what role, if any, race plays in the feelings of Tea Party supporters. It is impossible to know the heart of another person (unless they unambiguously reveal themselves), let alone the hearts of millions.

But nerves are raw, antennas are up and race has become a lightning rod in the Obama era. This is not Obama’s doing, but the simple result of his being."

The Emperor (the racist and bigoted right wing) has no clothes on. -poet
 
Race is a factor in the obama administration because his supporters WANT it to be a factor. Who knew that blacks are the only ones who face obstacles in their lives? Well, ya finally figgered us out. You cracked the code. You see unbeknownst to all black folk, white folk are all implanted with a chip at birth that indicates our "white privilege". It is scanned at opportune times in our lives to make sure that we don't have to face any of lifes obstacles, like going to college, getting a job, getting a student loan, mortgage and getting a car. Yup, us whiteys sure got it made. Zero poverty, 0% unemployment, all because we were born with very little melanin.

You are the race hustler my friend. You used race to get obama elected, and you use race every time his presidency gets into trouble (like now). You know that the last thing anyone wants to be called is a racist, so you use it as a weapon to keep people from criticizing obama. And it has worked.

But, it won't work on me homeboy and it looks like (by the poll numbers) it isn't working on the rest of America. If it weren't for 96% support in the black community, obama's approval rating would be in the 20s.

You are right about one thing. I don't respect obama. I can't stand the motherfucker. I hope he dies of a massive heart attack combined with a stroke and they learn during autopsy that he has ass cancer. But, it isn't because he is half black. I have disdain for him because he is a communist pig who was raised at the feet of his pedophile daddy Frank Marshall Davis and he is trying to "fundamentally change" the United States of America.

Now, while I don't think the United States is perfect, I also don't think it needs to be fundamentally changed into a communist state like obama is trying to do.

Take your race hustlin somewhere else. It don't fly here
 
not to him it doesn't.

He thinks they are just outsiders and he will always think they are outsiders.


He wants blacks to forget everything that was done to them but for some reason he thinks the Jews should never forget what was done to them.


They are racists who cant admit they are racist because the world now hates racists.


they will die off and leave the rest of us non hate filled humans to cohabitate peacefully and respectfully.


His day is coming to the close.

I cant wait
 
Race is a factor in the obama administration because his supporters WANT it to be a factor. Who knew that blacks are the only ones who face obstacles in their lives? Well, ya finally figgered us out. You cracked the code. You see unbeknownst to all black folk, white folk are all implanted with a chip at birth that indicates our "white privilege". It is scanned at opportune times in our lives to make sure that we don't have to face any of lifes obstacles, like going to college, getting a job, getting a student loan, mortgage and getting a car. Yup, us whiteys sure got it made. Zero poverty, 0% unemployment, all because we were born with very little melanin.

You are the race hustler my friend. You used race to get obama elected, and you use race every time his presidency gets into trouble (like now). You know that the last thing anyone wants to be called is a racist, so you use it as a weapon to keep people from criticizing obama. And it has worked.

But, it won't work on me homeboy and it looks like (by the poll numbers) it isn't working on the rest of America. If it weren't for 96% support in the black community, obama's approval rating would be in the 20s.

You are right about one thing. I don't respect obama. I can't stand the motherfucker. I hope he dies of a massive heart attack combined with a stroke and they learn during autopsy that he has ass cancer. But, it isn't because he is half black. I have disdain for him because he is a communist pig who was raised at the feet of his pedophile daddy Frank Marshall Davis and he is trying to "fundamentally change" the United States of America.

Now, while I don't think the United States is perfect, I also don't think it needs to be fundamentally changed into a communist state like obama is trying to do.

Take your race hustlin somewhere else. It don't fly here

Hit the proverbial nail on the head with this one; more need not be stated. ::clapping::
 
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Not interested in what you think TD. Move on. Go play with the board racists and bigots.
 
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Not interested in what you think TD. Move on. Go play with the board racists and bigots.

Like I give a shit what you think Race Hustler? Go play with the race hustling dimwits and assholes.

Moron.
 
poet, what do you think we should do to remedy the situation?

my personal experience:
Once in a while we get a visit from a douchebag loudmouth who likes to use racial slurs, but I often tell him to STFU. I'll try to do it nicely since he's a business associate of my room mate, but I am not shy about calling him a ridiculous bigot (He thought I meant bigamist... LOL ignorant dumbfuck that he is). Mostly I tell him he sounds like he just stepped out of a time machine and the past wants its racial slurs back.

Sometimes we just ignore it. Maybe that encourages him. Sorry for those times. I don't mean to encourage bigots.

Here's the really odd part about this guy. He visited Jamacia and married a young woman from the island. He's moving there after he sells everything and his 600K house.

I know he doesn't use that kind of language in Jamacia so it's really strange to try to understand why he feels compelled to use that language around us. We have people of all colors hanging out and dropping by. He's been here at parties with many of them as well, so it gets annoying enough for me to say something. My room mate says he ignores it because saying anything to this guy is pointless.
 
poet, what do you think we should do to remedy the situation?

my personal experience:
Once in a while we get a visit from a douchebag loudmouth who likes to use racial slurs, but I often tell him to STFU. I'll try to do it nicely since he's a business associate of my room mate, but I am not shy about calling him a ridiculous bigot (He thought I meant bigamist... LOL ignorant dumbfuck that he is). Mostly I tell him he sounds like he just stepped out of a time machine and the past wants its racial slurs back.

Sometimes we just ignore it. Maybe that encourages him. Sorry for those times. I don't mean to encourage bigots.

Here's the really odd part about this guy. He visited Jamacia and married a young woman from the island. He's moving there after he sells everything and his 600K house.

I know he doesn't use that kind of language in Jamacia so it's really strange to try to understand why he feels compelled to use that language around us. We have people of all colors hanging out and dropping by. He's been here at parties with many of them as well, so it gets annoying enough for me to say something. My room mate says he ignores it because saying anything to this guy is pointless.

First of all, why do you have a roommate? Are you a college student or in a love tryst? I'm assuming that the "douchebag" that comes to visit you is black and militant.
There are all sorts of people in the world. I mean, look at the avatar you chose to represent you. Who thinks like that? What does it imply? Drug-addled, to me.
I just had to deal with a business associate who is arrogant, rude, and doesn't think I understand what is going on. Professionalism is the bottom line...and once that is complete, a rude awakening is in the offing. I don't do white privilege.
 
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