DId the Maine shooter have the right to bear an AR-15?

Hey Jarod.

Since laws are the answer - why don't we make a law prohibiting people from shooting random strangers for no reason?

Think of the countless lives that would be saved with such a law....

Thats already a law, since its not working, should we repeal it?
 
Oh, its part of the United States, under our Federal Umbrella. Governed by the rights given to the Democratically elected representatives in the Federal Government under our Constitution.

You see the United States of Mexico is a Country, like the United States of America. Chiwawa is a State in Mexico, like Maine is a State in the United States. People of the United States of America (me) do not get to vote in the elections of Los Estados Unitos de Mexico.
Maine was guaranteed a republican form of government though. How is it that if citizens in other states get to overrule them on such important issues?
 
Maine was guaranteed a republican form of government though. How is it that if citizens in other states get to overrule them on such important issues?

The Constitution of the United States of America grants the Federal Government certain powers over the states. Maine was guaranteed a DEMOCRATIC Republic within those limits.
 
The Constitution of the United States of America grants the Federal Government certain powers over the states. Maine was guaranteed a DEMOCRATIC Republic within those limits.

sounds like you are throwing shit against the wall now

if you wanted a hand at honesty, you would admit that the civil war and any changes to the laws after were not done with the intent to change gun control rules in this country

sometime the shit stains become quite transparent when they refuse to be upfront
 
sounds like you are throwing shit against the wall now

if you wanted a hand at honesty, you would admit that the civil war and any changes to the laws after were not done with the intent to change gun control rules in this country

sometime the shit stains become quite transparent when they refuse to be upfront

Are you saying that The Constitution of the United States of America does not grant the Federal Government certain powers over the states. And that Maine was not guaranteed a DEMOCRATIC Republic within those limits.
 
Are you saying that The Constitution of the United States of America does not grant the Federal Government certain powers over the states. And that Maine was not guaranteed a DEMOCRATIC Republic within those limits.

you can make your word DEMORATIC as large as you want, the constitution only guarantees Maine has a republican form of govenrment
 
Criminal law cant limit a person's rights until they commit a crime.

Actually, there are federal and State laws that limit rights when a person is determined by a legal authority, to be a danger to themselves or others.
 
So why do I not have a right to an ICBM? It has to do with safety of others, right?

no. and we've had this roundabout debate before. So here we go again. 1. the right to arms includes any weapons that a standing army would/could use against the populace. 2. If you want to take that as 'not all arms', 'no ICBMs' means that the right is not absolute, then by all fucking means we should have ICBMs.
 
I do not think there was an epidemic of people firing those morters into a large crowd of people at innocent gatherings or schools full of children.

That speaks as to the quality of people and the segregation of crazy people from society. :rolleyes:
 
no. and we've had this roundabout debate before. So here we go again. 1. the right to arms includes any weapons that a standing army would/could use against the populace. 2. If you want to take that as 'not all arms', 'no ICBMs' means that the right is not absolute, then by all fucking means we should have ICBMs.

So where does the Constitution say that the right is limited to those weapons a standing army would use against the populace? Do you not believe that giving widespread access to ICBM's would likely be the end of humanity?
 
That speaks as to the quality of people and the segregation of crazy people from society. :rolleyes:

Agreed, we have a lot of crazy people free in our society, until we do something about it... we need to limit easy access to machines capable of easy mass murder.
 
Id require a process to attain such a weapon that an insane person would be unable to accomplish.

That's against the 2nd amendment. You don't like The Constitution, huh?

Good thing your dictatorial faggot ass is not in charge of a damn thing. :awesome:
 
Agreed, we have a lot of crazy people free in our society, until we do something about it... we need to limit easy access to machines capable of easy mass murder.

So ban trucks, cars, and airplanes. What about household chemicals, propane tanks and fertilizer?
 
That's against the 2nd amendment. You don't like The Constitution, huh?

I believe when rights conflict, we are required to impose regulations to try to prevent the conflict. In this case, the right to liberty (freedom from being murdered at elementary school for example) is directly conflicting with the right of mentally ill people's right to bear arms.
 
Agreed, we have a lot of crazy people free in our society, until we do something about it... we need to limit easy access to machines capable of easy mass murder.

No. :nono:

We need to limit crazy homicidal peoples' access to society and weapons, fucktard.

And we did here in this country for a long, long time, until Big Pharma bribed our government to stop that in the 1980s, now they wander the streets looking for victims.

Big Pharma made billions, their promises were false, and society has degraded by a significant percentage because of that happening.
 
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