DId the Maine shooter have the right to bear an AR-15?

[Into the Night]

false equivalence. why must you continue to use these?

blacks/slaves were not considered people, at that time. they were property, thus they had no rights. I get that it was wrong, but judging them by our current standards is wrong.

Correct. This fallacy of his is called a 'presentism fallacy'. He is applying present standards and customs to the past.

 

[Jarod]

Correct. This fallacy of his is called a 'presentism fallacy'. He is applying present standards and customs to the past.

Dam, once you get off your shift at the 7-11 you sure post a lot.

 

[Into the Night]

my life and my families life does not need protecting. We are safe.

Yet you live in fear.

 

[Into the Night]

I am not against that, but seems like it would be a conflict of absolute rights.

No conflict. Absolute rights are absolute. They cannot be taken away, even in prison or a mental institution.

 

[Into the Night]

I am not the one calling the right to bear arms absolute. You fucks are.

The right to bear arms is also absolute. No government can take that away. No prison or mental institution can take that away.
Apparently you are completely unaware that prisoners also have guns, knives, knuckles, spikes, etc.

 

[Into the Night]

Link

He can link to any of my posts.
The right to bear arms is absolute. Even prisoners have this right. The right of self defense is also absolute. No matter how oppressive a government is, they cannot take away this right.

He is completely unaware that prisoners often have weapons of various sorts (generally 'homemade'). He is also unaware that practically anything can be used as a weapon or 'arm'.

 

[Into the Night]

I disagree, I believe in limits, just like you do... its just a matter of degree.

No. YOU believe in banning and limiting weapons. That is unconstitutional.

 

[Into the Night]

Do you think the right to bear arms is absolute?

Do Americans have any absolute rights?

RQAA. I have already answered this question.

 

[Into the Night]

so you have private armed security with you at all times??????

Can he trust them??

No, obviously he lives in fear. It shows in this thread and in every post of his on this subject.

 

[Into the Night]

Where do you set the point?

There is NO POINT. The right of self defense is absolute. The right to bear arms is absolute. There is no right to murder.

 

[Into the Night]

I asked for a link to back up your claim ...guess u dont have one

He can link to any of my posts.

 

[Into the Night]

You are, when you consider an AR-15 is not a musket.

Irrelevant. It is unconstitutional to ban or limit any gun.
That includes an AR-15 style rifle, and any or ALL of it's accessories for it, including large capacity magazines.

 

[Into the Night]

You wont answer the questions?

I already did. RQAA.

 

[Into the Night]

you use due process of law.........if someone appears untrustworthy in public, poses a threat to others, then you give them the hearing they deserve. After that, if proven he/she is a threat, you involuntarily commit them for treatment

Fine. Nothing about that removes or destroys the absolute right of self defense.

 

[Into the Night]

Good question, we will elect people to make that call. We are a Democracy after all.

The United States was never a democracy. A democracy has no representatives.

 

[Into the Night]

another false equivalency. do you believe that the founders were ignorant of the advancement of technology?

Obviously not. BTW, machine guns and cannons were around at the time the Constitution was established.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

The right to bear arms is absolute. .

Milquetoast Macaw makes a point.

The above is indeed true
assuming a literal interpretation of our Constitution
and assuming consensus that the Constitution is the absolute ultimate authority.

It does not in any way alter the reality
that our Constitution blows chunks.

 

[Into the Night]

I seem to know "absolute" better than you.

...and now come your word games...

 

[Into the Night]

No, but never once been threatened. Except by a cop, but I handled that.

Yet you live in fear.

 

[Into the Night]

I embrace reality. For instance, I would NEVER claim something critical to the function of a modern society “cannot be necessary” simply because there’s no mention of it in the Constitution.

That kind of claim would be the height of stupidity, don’t you think?

The Constitution does not grant rights. That is not it's purpose. Rights are inherent.