Did Biden really say Antifa was an idea?

I'm speaking as one who doesn't even know what or who the "Proud Boys" are.

From their website:

Core Values Of The Proud Boys
  • Minimal Government
  • Maximum Freedom
  • Anti-Political Correctness
  • Anti-Drug War
  • Closed Borders
  • Anti-Racial Guilt
  • Anti-Racism
  • Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
  • Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
  • Glorifying the Entrepreneur
  • Venerating the Housewife
  • Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism


Though these are our central tenets, all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.” We do not discriminate based upon race or sexual orientation/preference. We are not an “ism”, “ist”, or “phobic” that fits the Left’s narrative. We truly believe that the West Is The Best and welcome those who believe in the same tenets as us.

The basic tenet of the group is that we are “Western chauvinists who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.” Like Archie Bunker, we long for the days when “girls were girls and men were men.” This wasn’t controversial even twenty years ago, but being proud of Western culture today is like being a crippled, black, lesbian communist in 1953.

The group started in the fall after congregating on Compound Media and laughing at the politically correct culture they insist we take seriously. What began as a few fans in a bar across the street from the studio singing “Proud of Your Boy” and laughing at the reparations videos of Gazi Kodzo soon became a bona fide men’s club with rituals, traditions, and even its own in-house court called “The Sharia.”

The Proud Boys confuse the media because the group is anti-SJW without being alt-right. “Western chauvinist” includes all races, religions, and sexual preferences.

Our group is and will always be MEN ONLY(born with a penis if that wasn’t clear enough for you leftists)!

If you are (and were born) a woman and you would like to be involved, there is a girls group. They call themselves Proud Boys’ Girls and they’re our second-biggest demographic.”

It may seem counter-intuitive that a men-only group would have such a big female following, but nobody wants men to be men more than the women who depend on them. “Proud Boys saved my marriage,” says PBG Gabriela Finch. “I was completely done with it, but he won me back and fought hard for it.” This group is full of all kinds of women. Wives, girlfriends and single girls are all welcome. Just like the mens group, the girls have no other requirements about race, religion or sexual preference.

The fact that this group has exploded so quickly is a testament to how completely finished young American men and women are with apology culture. Men have tried being ashamed of themselves and accepting blame for slavery, the wage gap, ableism, and some fag-bashing that went on two generations ago, but it didn’t work. So they’re going with their gut and indulging in the natural pride that comes from being part of the greatest culture in the world. It’s very freeing to finally admit the West is the best. That’s because it’s the truth.

https://proudboysusa.com/tenets/
 
They do standby lol.

They’ve protected Ann Coulter from radical lefties when she speaks at campuses. I forgot about that. Pretty sure they did for the Milo dude too.

The real point here is that Trump suggested someone do something about it. Trump/Barr have already started.

What was Biden’s policy proposal—I missed it.

The president said "give me a name", and his two opponents started jabbering.

@:051 someone says "white supremacist, proud boys", and it isn't the president.


He said "proud boys" after either Slow Joe or the "moderator" did. It's hard to tell those two apart.
 
Wallace didn't mention the Proud Boys.
Yes, it was Wallace who specified "the Proud Boys" in response to Trump's request for an organizational name that Wallace wanted to be told to stand down and to not add to the violence. Trump then looked at the camera and told them to stand down ... but then Wallace's badgering continued and Biden never had to account for his support for BLM and ANTIFA violence and was instead allowed to blame Trump for trying to end the violence ... and Wallace never
made Biden answer for that either.
 
Yes, it was Wallace who specified "the Proud Boys" in response to Trump's request for an organizational name that Wallace wanted to be told to stand down and to not add to the violence. Trump then looked at the camera and told them to stand down ... but then Wallace's badgering continued and Biden never had to account for his support for BLM and ANTIFA violence and was instead allowed to blame Trump for trying to end the violence ... and Wallace never
made Biden answer for that either.

Where? Show me. I'll give you a link and you show me.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/30/918483794/from-debate-stage-trump-declines-to-denounce-white-supremacy
 
you might as well paint a big MORON sign and hang it around your neck.

We had to listen to this same tired childish guesswork as if you knew what you were talking about 4 years ago.
And then listened to you whine for 4 years not-stop, repeating CNN soundbites as if they were thoughts of your own.

Children, most children have more intellect than you do

Would you like some cheese with your whine?
 
Yes, it was Wallace who specified "the Proud Boys" in response to Trump's request for an organizational name that Wallace wanted to be told to stand down and to not add to the violence. Trump then looked at the camera and told them to stand down ... but then Wallace's badgering continued and Biden never had to account for his support for BLM and ANTIFA violence and was instead allowed to blame Trump for trying to end the violence ... and Wallace never
made Biden answer for that either.

Leftists are liars.

The president said "give me a name", and his two opponents started jabbering.

@:051 someone says "white supremacist, proud boys", and it isn't the president.

 
Where? Show me. I'll give you a link and you show me.
OK, so Biden was the first to mention "Proud Boys" and then Wallace acknowledged and so Trump quickly announced "Proud Boys stand back and stand by."

So I retract the Wallace having mentioned it.
 
OK, so Biden was the first to mention "Proud Boys" and then Wallace acknowledged and so Trump quickly announced "Proud Boys stand back and stand by."

So I retract the Wallace having mentioned it.

Yeah. Wallace didn't mention them. But you said Biden was the first to mention them. I haven't watched the entire segment where they discussed it yet.
 
maybe the race card will work :laugh:

Donnie tried that last night! It didn't work out to well!

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Proud Boys celebrate Trump’s remarks with ‘Stand back and stand by’ T-shirts
September 30, 2020 By Molly Boigon

Members of the Proud Boys, a white supremacist group, have been celebrating President Trump’s order to them to “stand back and stand by” during the first presidential debate Tuesday night.

Apparel marked with a Proud Boys logo and the president’s quote is being sold on Teespring.com, according to the Miami Herald. It’s unclear if there is a connection between that site and the group.

Members and other far-right social media users have also been making memes, like one of President Trump in the Proud Boys’ signature black polo shirts with yellow trim.

One user on Telegram said that the group is seeing an increase in “new recruits.”

Andrew Anglin, the founder of the neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer, wrote on the site that “Trump didn’t condemn anyone, and he didn’t tell them to stand down – he told them to stand back and to stand by.”

He wrote that the president’s statement indicates that Trump was telling militiamen to “wait until I give the signal.”

“He is telling the people to stand by. As in: get ready for war,” Anglin wrote. “In a month’s time, your president could ask you to go out into the streets and defend your country. You need to be ready to do that.”
 
You're taking me back. I remember throwing that zinger around when I was in the 3rd grade. Good times.

Perhaps Geeko's memories of being in the 3rd grade are very recent and particularly vivid, especially if he had to repeat it several times.
 
Members of the Proud Boys, a white supremacist group, have been celebrating President Trump’s order to them to “stand back and stand by” during the first presidential debate Tuesday night.

Apparel marked with a Proud Boys logo and the president’s quote is being sold on Teespring.com, according to the Miami Herald. It’s unclear if there is a connection between that site and the group.

Members and other far-right social media users have also been making memes, like one of President Trump in the Proud Boys’ signature black polo shirts with yellow trim.

One user on Telegram said that the group is seeing an increase in “new recruits.”

Andrew Anglin, the founder of the neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer, wrote on the site that “Trump didn’t condemn anyone, and he didn’t tell them to stand down – he told them to stand back and to stand by.”

He wrote that the president’s statement indicates that Trump was telling militiamen to “wait until I give the signal.”

“He is telling the people to stand by. As in: get ready for war,” Anglin wrote. “In a month’s time, your president could ask you to go out into the streets and defend your country. You need to be ready to do that.”

LOL....
 
The FBI director is not running for anything. The FBI director is not participating in the debate.

If Biden is going to make the claim, he owns it, he doesn't get to make the argument and then claim that it was someone else's argument.

Biden claimed that ANTIFA is an idea, he just tried to give himself an "out" for future weaseling, but it's not valid.

One either accepts that ANTIFA and unlawful violence is a LEFT Problem or one accepts that Biden claims ANTIFA is just an idea. No weaseling allowed.

QUICK! Make a graphic of a donkey with a weasel on it!! ;)
 
So does that mean Trump's refusal to condemn the white supremacists is weaseling?

What "white supremacists" are such a prevalent and disruptive presence in today's society that even require the President to publicly address (and condemn) them in the first place? Can you provide me with an example of where an organized group of "white supremacists" are out and about, causing problems in streets across America?

Aren't Antifa and BLM (and both of them are quite organized btw) much more visible, prevalent, disruptive, and problematic than some vague reference to "white supremacists", incessantly fabled to be "out there" "somewhere"??


Edit: Did Obama ever condemn the Black Panthers?? I'm not interested in these political "gotcha" games... I'm interested in law and order, and right now the issue is Antifa and BLM, NOT some mystery "white supremacists" who are supposedly "lurking around" "somewhere" "out there"...
 
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What "white supremacists" are such a prevalent and disruptive presence in today's society that even require the President to publicly address (and condemn) them in the first place?

Aren't Antifa and BLM (and both of them are quite organized btw) much more visible, prevalent, disruptive, and problematic than some vague reference to "white supremacists", incessantly fabled to be "out there" "somewhere"??

I will leave BLM out since it's a straw man but when it comes to Antifa violence, it pales in comparison to the murders by white supremacists.
 
I will leave BLM out since it's a straw man but when it comes to Antifa violence, it pales in comparison to the murders by white supremacists.

BLM is a strawman? What a retard. "White Supremacist's" is the strawman you mental midget. And no. this is not about the number of murders; it is about the effort to burn down your own house based on the FALSE lie filled premise that the police are inherently racist and trying to murder black men.

I wish you weren't a dishonest mentally ill dumbass. Really I do.
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Leftist morons would have you believe that the people of color looting, rioting and burning down Blue State urban shitholes are actually white supremacist. You have to believe them because they said it is so.

What a bunch of twits.


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OMG, look at all these WHITE SUPREMECISTS LOOTING!!!

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