Devout CATHOLICS Bishop Biden & Pope Pelosi - have Dem voters found religion?

Well that's what counts in the context or moral decisions, such as abortion. When we talk about murder, we're not talking about killing cells, we're talking about killing a being that has thoughts and can feel pain.

I have to disagree, killing cells is killing life.

Even if you use antibiotics you're killing bacteria.

Although, the difference is a fetus is a proto Human life, not harming anybody.

Bacteria is well a bacteria & can harm us.
 
Well many Poles probably have German ancestry. I'd guess most. So if we're going to say they weren't Polish because they had German ancestry, that also takes out a lot of the Polish who did good things.

Most of the Germanic blood in Poles is probably not even from Germanic invaders.

In example, Kashubians a Polish tribe.

Has I1a, and also G haplogroups in high numbers, just like LBK culture had.

The difference between Kashubians & Scandinavians & Poles are easy.

Kashubians have more G haplogroup & I1a than Poles.

But, Kashubians are mostly still largely R1a like other Poles.

But, Kashubians have much more G haplogroup than Germanic's.

Probably Kashubians are a mix of Polish warriors & LBK remenants AKA Germanic types who settled Poland.


PS.
East Germany during the Medieval was Slavic.

They absorbed a lot of those Slavs.

Like Polabians, Sorbs, and other Wends.
 
This is only the praying that prattling Pelosi does.


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Ah, you see Goslicki did influence the Polish Warsaw Confederation in the late 1500's, the first really explosive freedom of religion movement, he arguably influenced the first European Enlightened Polish Constitution the May 3rd, 1791 Constitution.
Offering at least 3X more voting rights than the barely earlier USA Constitution.

But because of the Catholic Church, Europeans couldn't really have the freedom of religion they wanted, including in Poland. These movements that pushed for more freedom were important, but they couldn't go that far until the Church lost its stronghold. That's why even in Poland, freedom of speech wasn't a thing until the Enlightenment.

But, the Bible says that those reformations must be made within the One True Church, AKA Catholics the first church.

I'm an Atheist, so I'm not saying Protestantism is correct. I'm just saying that the move away from having a Church running Europe is what lead to the Enlightenment.

But, indeed the existence of Protestants has caused a lot of blood shed in Europe.

Especially, in the 30 Year War...

Yeah, the tension between Protestants and Catholics gave kings good propaganda to get people to go to war. But there was plenty of war and religious propaganda before that. Catholics and Muslims were on good terms until the Pope decided he wanted to attack the Muslims, then all of a sudden they were the enemy. Then later on, they were our friends again. So yeah, there always was religious propaganda used for war, and always will be until we all accept that there is no god or devil.


Boaz was kind of an idiot.
While, environment can change skull form.

There's definitely a lot of other factors.

For example, Switzerland is Brachycephalic & has been wealthy for eons.

As opposed to Ireland is Dolichocephalic - Mesocephalic & was long poorer.

So, the claim that Brachycephalic skulls are just from malnutrition alone can't be the full reality.

It's not just malnutrition, it's also the kind of foods and lifestyle for young children. For example, the amount of sun children get. Because Northern Europe gets a lot less sun, when children are young and their bones are still forming, their skulls are more malleable. This explains the dolichocephalic skulls, since babies spend a lot of time lying down. Today, because we now have vitamin D pills, the skulls of Northern Europeans aren't as dolichocephalic as they used to be.
There's also a theory that brachycephalic skulls are a result of East Asian ancestry. Which I guess is possible, especially if you look at where the Asians invaded Europe. But as I said, I don't think skull shape is a good indicator of race or ancestry.
 
Well many Poles probably have German ancestry. I'd guess most. So if we're going to say they weren't Polish because they had German ancestry, that also takes out a lot of the Polish who did good things.

The ancestry of East Prussian was mostly Polish & Old Prussian like Lithuanians, rather than German.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?212757-Old-Prussian-ancestry-of-East-Prussians

According to this East Prussians were 45% R1a haplogroup, and 15% R1b, and 22% N1c1c.
In comparison West Germany is about 47% R1b, and 9% R1a, & 2% N1c1c
Poland is 57% R1a, 12% R1b, and 4% N1c1c
Lithuania is 42% R1a, 4% R1b, and 40% N1c1c

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Present day East Germans have 20% Slavic ancestry.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3598329/

Admixture estimates showed minor Slavic paternal ancestry (∼20%) in modern eastern Germans and hardly detectable German paternal ancestry in Slavs neighbouring German populations for centuries. BATWING analysis of isolated Slavic populations revealed that their divergence was preceded by rapid demographic growth, undermining theory that Slavic expansion was primarily linguistic rather than population spread. Polish pre-war regional populations showed within-group heterogeneity and lower STR variation within R-M17 subclades compared with modern populations, which might have been homogenised by war resettlements. Our results suggest that genetic studies on early human history in the Vistula and Oder basins should rely on reconstructed pre-war rather than modern populations.
 
But because of the Catholic Church, Europeans couldn't really have the freedom of religion they wanted, including in Poland. These movements that pushed for more freedom were important, but they couldn't go that far until the Church lost its stronghold. That's why even in Poland, freedom of speech wasn't a thing until the Enlightenment.



I'm an Atheist, so I'm not saying Protestantism is correct. I'm just saying that the move away from having a Church running Europe is what lead to the Enlightenment.



Yeah, the tension between Protestants and Catholics gave kings good propaganda to get people to go to war. But there was plenty of war and religious propaganda before that. Catholics and Muslims were on good terms until the Pope decided he wanted to attack the Muslims, then all of a sudden they were the enemy. Then later on, they were our friends again. So yeah, there always was religious propaganda used for war, and always will be until we all accept that there is no god or devil.




It's not just malnutrition, it's also the kind of foods and lifestyle for young children. For example, the amount of sun children get. Because Northern Europe gets a lot less sun, when children are young and their bones are still forming, their skulls are more malleable. This explains the dolichocephalic skulls, since babies spend a lot of time lying down. Today, because we now have vitamin D pills, the skulls of Northern Europeans aren't as dolichocephalic as they used to be.
There's also a theory that brachycephalic skulls are a result of East Asian ancestry. Which I guess is possible, especially if you look at where the Asians invaded Europe. But as I said, I don't think skull shape is a good indicator of race or ancestry.

Nonsense, Poland was more free & Liberal than Germany.

Germans attacked Poland in 1791, betraying their 1790 alliance friendship pact with Poland, because they weren't informed about the 1791, May 3rd Constitution.

Poland in the 1700's also had the first ever Board of Education.

Since the late 1500's had the first major freedom of Religion movement the Warsaw Confederation.

Polish Democracy was better than English Democracy.

For example the Polish Parliament the Sejm offered twice the voting rights as the English parliament the Magna Carta.

Also the Liberum Veto, meant all decisions had to be pass as unanimous.




There's no Mongolian mixture in Poland.

http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2013/03/no-mongolian-admixture-in-poland.html

Poles do have a lot more B blood type, than Western Europeans but this is probably from Aryans.

Poland has high R haplogroups & high autosomal ANE or Ancient North Eurasian DNA,

All Aryan related AKA Indo-Europeans.
 
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But because of the Catholic Church, Europeans couldn't really have the freedom of religion they wanted, including in Poland. These movements that pushed for more freedom were important, but they couldn't go that far until the Church lost its stronghold. That's why even in Poland, freedom of speech wasn't a thing until the Enlightenment.



I'm an Atheist, so I'm not saying Protestantism is correct. I'm just saying that the move away from having a Church running Europe is what lead to the Enlightenment.



Yeah, the tension between Protestants and Catholics gave kings good propaganda to get people to go to war. But there was plenty of war and religious propaganda before that. Catholics and Muslims were on good terms until the Pope decided he wanted to attack the Muslims, then all of a sudden they were the enemy. Then later on, they were our friends again. So yeah, there always was religious propaganda used for war, and always will be until we all accept that there is no god or devil.


It's not just malnutrition, it's also the kind of foods and lifestyle for young children. For example, the amount of sun children get. Because Northern Europe gets a lot less sun, when children are young and their bones are still forming, their skulls are more malleable. This explains the dolichocephalic skulls, since babies spend a lot of time lying down. Today, because we now have vitamin D pills, the skulls of Northern Europeans aren't as dolichocephalic as they used to be.
There's also a theory that brachycephalic skulls are a result of East Asian ancestry. Which I guess is possible, especially if you look at where the Asians invaded Europe. But as I said, I don't think skull shape is a good indicator of race or ancestry.

A lot of the European & German elite have been Brachycephalic.

Not surprising, because Brachycephalic brains tend to be heavier, and wider at the more advanced pre frontal cortext, but shorter at the less advanced rear lobe.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2004/08/german-hyperbrachycephals.html

he skulls of prominent Europeans and Germans were measured there was no evidence of an overrepresentation of dolichocephals among them: indeed, most of them were brachycephalic, many of them tending to the extreme hyperbrachycephalic form, as the following passage illustrates.

Friedrich Hertz, Rasse und Kultur: eine kritische Untersuchung der Rassentheorien, 3. ed., Alfred Kröner, Leipzig, 1925, p.163

Sehen aber die Genies wirklich in der Regel so aus [DP: Germanisch Typus]? Genaue Feststellungen liegen leider nur selten vor. Immerhin können wir sagen, dass die Genies sehr häufig - vielleicht selbst in der Mehrzahl der Fälle - diesen Anforderungen nicht entsprechen. Vor allem ihr Schädel nähert sich meist ganz bedenklich der "Kreislinie tierischen Wohlbehagens", wie Chamberlain so schön sagt. Bismarck, Luther, Laplace, Napoleon, Pascal, Raphael, Beethoven, Haydn, Schubert sind einige Beispiele von Rundköpfen, ja, es scheint gerade die extreme Form der Rundköpfigkeit, die Hyperbrachycephalität, die man mit dem Index 85 beginnen lasst, unter ihnen sehr häufig zu sein). Schillers Schadel mit seinem Index von 84 steht knapp an inhrer Grenze, Kant mit seiner Indexnummer von 88.5 war ein ganz ausgesprochener Hyperbrachycephale. Hamerling hatte den Index 85.3, Schopenhauer den von 86, Leibniz gar einen von 90.3.

UPDATE (2 March 2008)

Franz Weidenreich, "The Brachycephalization of Recent Mankind", Southwestern Journal of Anthropology, Vol. 1, No. 1. (Spring, 1945), p. 9.

One can imagine the shock an intelligent German reader suffered when he remembered that many of the great German heroes from Bismarck down to Hindenburg and Hitler were brachycephalics and even hyperbrachycephalics, and that the three greatest philosophers Germany has produced-Leibniz, Kant, and Schopenhauer-had round heads in the most extreme form (Fig. 2, No. 4, Leibniz, skull index 90.3[!]; NO. 5, Kant, skull index 88.5; No. 6, Schopenhauer, head index 90.0 [!).
 
Well many Poles probably have German ancestry. I'd guess most. So if we're going to say they weren't Polish because they had German ancestry, that also takes out a lot of the Polish who did good things.

Polish & Irish Catholics are definitely much smarter than typical Germanic Protestants.

First off Poland & Ireland beat every single Germanic country in PISA scores last round.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment

To make matters worse, the Irish Catholics & Polish Catholics in the USA North-East also have higher PISA scores than Germanic Protestant regions of the USA.

Irish Catholics are genetically closest relatives of Scottish.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-50642855

Scotland is no less White than Ireland.

But, it is more Germanic & a lot more Protestant.

Protestant Scotland trails quite behind Catholic Ireland.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-50642855

Scotland scored a 504 PISA score in Reading, compared to as 518 PISA score in reading in Ireland.

Scotland scored a 489 PISA score in Math, compared to a 500 PISA score in Math in Ireland.

Scotland scored a 490 PISA score in Science, compared to a 496 PISA score in Science in Ireland.

If you look at regions of the USA, Irish Catholic filled Massachusetts is at the top for PISA scores.

Arguably Scottish / Scots - Irish Protestant West Virginia & Kentucky are far behind Massachusetts in PISA scores.
 
I don't know which country produced the best or the most. I'm just saying the Germanic peoples have produced a lot of good people and things. I think they've been a net positive for Western Civilization and the world.

I'd argue Polish IQ scores are 4 points than Germans under the same circumstance.

The Polish American IQ was 109 in the 1970's & the German American IQ was 105 in the 1970's, according to Sowell.

https://books.google.com/books?id=H...onepage&q=Polish American IQ Asian IQ&f=false

According to Lynn's Wealth & Nations, Communist Poland scored a 99 IQ, and Communist East Germany a 95 IQ.

https://books.google.com/books?id=K...AAegQICRAo#v=onepage&q=East German IQ&f=false
 
Depends what you consider unnecessary. I don't think America should be involved in these Middle Eastern wars at all. And most of these wars that America is involved in have been going on for decades, it's hard to say who started them.

I do agree that white Catholic countries are pretty peaceful, but so are white Protestant countries. White countries in general have become more peaceful thanks to the Enlightenment.
Despite Christianity being about pacifism, Christian countries are often more violent because religions makes people submissive to their leaders.

Poland's always been exceptionally altruistic, heroic, and humane by European standards.

First Pagan rights & co existing concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paweł_Włodkowic

As early as the beginning of the 15th century, along with Stanisław of Skarbimierz, Włodkowic strongly supported the idea of conciliarism and pioneered the notion of peaceful coexistence among nations – a forerunner of modern theories of human rights. Throughout his political, diplomatic and university career, Paweł Włodkowic expressed the view that a world guided by the principles of peace and mutual respect among nations was possible and that pagan nations had a right to peace and to possession of their own lands. F


First concept of Just War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanisław_of_Skarbimierz

Stanisław of Skarbimierz, along with Paweł Włodkowic, framed the Polish position, at the Council of Constance, pioneering ideas of modern human rights and international law. Stanisław's sermons "About Just War" (De bellis justis) and "About robbery" (De rapina) gave fundaments to medieval theory of just war. The sermons justified position of Kingdom of Poland toward a war with Teutonic Knights. Stanisław died at Kraków.[

First concept of leaders being accountable to the law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawrzyniec_Grzymała_Goślicki

In this book Goślicki shows the ideal statesman who is well versed in the humanities as well as in economy, politics, and law. He argued that law is above the ruler, who must respect it, and that it is illegitimate to rule over a people against its will. He equated godliness with reason, and reason with law.[1] Many of the book's ideas comprised the foundations of Polish Nobles' Democracy (1505–1795) and were based on 14th-century writings by Stanisław of Skarbimierz. The book was not translated into Polish for 400 years.[1]


Unprecedented rights for Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Kalisz

The General Charter of Jewish Liberties known as the Statute of Kalisz, and as the Kalisz Privilege, was issued by the Duke of Greater Poland Boleslaus the Pious on September 8, 1264 in Kalisz.

The statute granted Jews unprecedented legal rights in Europe, including exclusive jurisdiction over Jewish matters to Jewish courts, and established a separate tribunal for other criminal matters involving Christians and Jews. The statute was ratified by subsequent Polish Kings: Casimir III in 1334, Casimir IV in 1453, and Sigismund I in 1539.



First modern Freedom of Religion movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Confederation

e Warsaw Confederation, signed on 28 January 1573 by the Polish national assembly (sejm konwokacyjny) in Warsaw, was one of the first European acts granting religious freedoms. It was an important development in the history of Poland and of Lithuania that extended religious tolerance to nobility and free persons within the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth[1] and is considered the formal beginning of religious freedom in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Although it did not prevent all conflict based on religion, it did make the Commonwealth a much safer and more tolerant place than most of contemporaneous Europe, especially during the subsequent Thirty Years' War.[2]

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Religious tolerance in Poland had had a long tradition (e.g. Statute of Kalisz) and had been de facto policy in the reign of the recently deceased King Sigismund II. However, the articles signed by the Confederation gave official sanction to earlier custom. In that sense, they may be considered either the beginning or the peak of Polish tolerance.

Following the childless death of the last king of the Jagiellonian dynasty, Polish and Lithuanian nobles (szlachta) gathered at Warsaw to prevent any separatists from acting and to maintain the existing legal order. For that the citizens had to unconditionally abide the decisions made by the body; and the confederation was a potent declaration that the two former states are still closely linked.

In January the nobles signed a document in which representatives of all the major religions pledged each other mutual support and tolerance. A new political system was arising, aided by the confederation which contributed to its stability. Religious tolerance was an important factor in a multiethnic and multi-religious state, as the territories of the Commonwealth were inhabited by many generations of people from different ethnic backgrounds (Poles, Lithuanians, Ruthenian, Germans and Jews) and of different denominations (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Jewish and even Muslim). "This country became what Cardinal Hozjusz called “a place of shelter for heretics”. It was a place where the most radical religious sects, trying to escape persecution in other countries of the Christian world, sought refuge.[3]



First European Enlightened Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_3_May_1791

The Constitution of 3 May 1791[1][2] (Polish: Ustawa Rządowa, "Governance Act"), was a constitution adopted by the Great Sejm ("Four-Year Sejm", meeting in 1788–92) for the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, a dual monarchy comprising the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The Constitution was designed to correct the Commonwealth's political flaws and had been preceded by a period of agitation for—and gradual introduction of—reforms, beginning with the Convocation Sejm of 1764 and the consequent election that year of Stanisław August Poniatowski as the Commonwealth's last king.

The Constitution sought to implement a more effective constitutional monarchy, introduced political equality between townspeople and nobility, and placed the peasants under the protection of the government, mitigating the worst abuses of serfdom. It banned pernicious parliamentary institutions such as the liberum veto, which had put the Sejm at the mercy of any single deputy, who could veto and thus undo all the legislation that had been adopted by that Sejm. The Commonwealth's neighbours reacted with hostility to the adoption of the Constitution. King Frederick William II broke Prussia's alliance with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and joined with Catherine the Great's Imperial Russia and the Targowica Confederation of anti-reform Polish magnates to defeat the Commonwealth in the Polish–Russian War of 1792.

The 1791 Constitution was in force for less than 19 months.[3][4] It was declared null and void by the Grodno Sejm that met in 1793,[1][4] though the Sejm's legal power to do so was questionable.[4] The Second and Third Partitions of Poland (1793, 1795) ultimately ended Poland's sovereign existence until the close of World War I in 1918. Over that 123-year period, the 1791 Constitution helped keep alive Polish aspirations for the eventual restoration of the country's sovereignty. In the words of two of its principal authors, Ignacy Potocki and Hugo Kołłątaj, the 1791 Constitution was "the last will and testament of the expiring Homeland."[a]


Poles saved the ONLY remaining original European forest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Białowieża_Forest

The entire area of northeastern Europe was originally covered by ancient woodland similar to that of the Białowieża Forest. Until about the 14th century, travel through the woodland was limited to river routes; roads and bridges appeared much later. Limited hunting rights were granted throughout the forest in the 14th century. In the 15th century the forest became a property of king Władysław II Jagiełło. A wooden manor in Białowieża became his refuge during a plague pandemic in 1426.[citation needed] The first recorded piece of legislation on the protection of the forest dates to 1538, when a document issued by Sigismund I instituted the death penalty for poaching a bison.[16] The King also built a new wooden hunting manor in a village of Białowieża, which became the namesake for the whole complex. Since Białowieża means the "white tower", the corresponding Puszcza Białowieska translates as the "forest of the white tower". The Tower of Kamyenyets on the Belarusian side, built of red brick, is also referred to as the White Tower (Belaya Vezha) even though it was never white, perhaps taking the name from the pushcha.[17]

The forest was declared a hunting reserve in 1541 to protect bison. In 1557, the forest charter was issued, under which a special board was established to examine forest usage. In 1639, King Vladislaus IV issued the "Białowieża royal forest decree" (Ordynacja Puszczy J.K. Mości leśnictwa Białowieskiego). The document freed all peasants living in the forest in exchange for their service as osocznicy, or royal foresters. They were also freed of taxes in exchange for taking care of the forest. The forest was divided onto 12 triangular areas (straże) with a centre in Białowieża.


Poles Saved the European Bison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_bison

European bison survived in a few natural forests in Europe, but their numbers dwindled. In the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, European bison in the Białowieża Forest were legally the property of the Grand Dukes of Lithuania until the third partition of Poland. Wild European bison herds also existed in the forest until the mid-17th century. Polish kings took measures to protect the bison. King Sigismund II Augustus instituted the death penalty for poaching a European bison in Białowieża in the mid-16th century. In the early 19th century, after the partitions of the Polish Commonwealth the Russian tsars retained old Lithuanian laws protecting the European bison herd in Białowieża. Despite these measures and others, the European bison population continued to decline over the following century, with only Białowieża and Northern Caucasus populations surviving into the 20th century.[38][39] The last European bison in Transylvania died in 1790.[40]


Highest Righteous Among the Nations in Europe dedicated to saving Holocaust victim Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Righteous_Among_the_Nations

Poles warned the World about the Holocaust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karski's_reports
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilecki's_Report
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raczyński's_Note


First ever ministry of education by Poland.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Poland

Polish Ministry of Education established by King Stanisław August Poniatowski in 1773 was the first ministry of education in the world,[


Saved the Irish in the Potato famine.

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/paul-strzelecki-irish-famine
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Polish explorer who saved over 200,000 during Irish Famine remembered in new exhibit


https://www.historytoday.com/archive/contrarian/belgiums-heart-darkness

Polish writer Jozef Conrad brought the Belgian Congo genocide to the World's attention.


The most famous account of Leopold’s Congo is Joseph Conrad’s novel Heart of Darkness (1899). With its grisly, bloody imagery, one might imagine that Conrad exaggerated the awfulness of the regime


Polish Jew Raphael Lemkin formulated modern genocide terms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Lemkin

Raphael Lemkin (Polish: Rafał Lemkin; 24 June 1900 – 28 August 1959) was a lawyer of Polish-Jewish descent who is best known for coining the word genocide and initiating the Genocide Convention. Lemkin coined the word genocide in 1943 or 1944 from genos (Greek for family, tribe, or race) and -cide (Latin for killing).[1][2][3][4]


Polish philosophers like Andrzej Wiszowaty,Stanisław Staszic,Cieszkowski, Abramowski.

https://culture.pl/en/article/10-polish-philosophers-who-changed-the-way-we-think

In the end, Wiszowaty claimed that the most important meaning of the Bible lies in its ethical teaching, which concentrated on human dignity. This led the Brethren to create a radically egalitarian society – for example, they believed that a husband and wife should form a partnership in which there would be no domination. They also openly opposed the pervasive serfdom system of their day, with many of them liberating their peasants and living with them on equal terms.


He discovered that history was ruled by unchanging laws and mechanisms and that at its centre was human reason, which ruled over human tendency towards egoism and conflicts and inclined them to create an order of truth in the form of co-operating groups. He considered constitutional monarchy to be the greatest embodiment of this order and believed that human history will ultimately lead to the establishment of a specific goal – a world order in the form of an association of nations that would be called… the European Union!

Cieszkowski’s influence is enormous. Without the Polish philosopher, Karl Marx would not have developed his idea of alienation and would not have called for action and consciousness to unite in revolutionary praxis. Cieszkowski is also often considered the creator of the philosophy of action and his work largely shaped not only Polish but also Russian philosophy – Alexander Herzen openly admitted that he borrowed numerous ideas from the Polish thinker.

His life and work was predominantly guided by his idea of a ‘co-operative republic’ – in his view, the state should only defend its citizens from external enemies and guarantee their right to form associations and co-operatives that should be in charge of the economy, education, the social order and other public interests.

This idea, however, was not libertarian, as Abramowski valued the social dimension of human life much more highly than any notions of personal autonomy. Additionally, he believed that all people were psychologically inclined towards solidarity and brotherhood and this inclination should help them in carrying out a ‘moral revolution’ based on a Abramowski’s idea of a Kantian free person structuring their life in accordance with an ethical ideal. To put it most accurately, his proposal was unmistakably socialist, but contrary to many socialist thinkers he believed that real change cannot be enforced by political decisions,


Polish equality & rights Philosopher Modzrewski.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrzej_Frycz_Modrzewski

He supported Irenicism (the importance of unity) and the democratic and ecumenical element in the Church. He became an official at the court of Sigismund II Augustus in 1547. Since he was leaning strongly towards the reformist circles (especially Calvinian and Arian/Polish brethren), he became in danger of being accused of heresy and was ultimately stripped of his ecclesiastical titles and offices. The king, however, issued a letter of protection for him. In 1553 he retired to his native Wolbórz.

Modrzewski debuted as a writer in 1543 with the work called Lascius, sive de poena homicidii (On The Penalty for Manslaughter; or Łaski, czyli O karze za mężobójstwo in Polish). In it, Modrzewski criticized the inequality prescribed by the law for different social classes: for example, while the penalty for killing a nobleman ranged from 120 grzywna – through life imprisonment – to death, the penalty for killing a peasant was only 10 grzywna.[1] Yet it was On the Improvement of the Commonwealth (De Republica emendanda) that brought him eternal and international fame. In it, he advocated a strong monarchy that would protect the rights of all citizens. He postulated equality of all before the law, and criticized the 1565 ban on land-owning by non-nobles.
 
Poland's always been exceptionally altruistic, heroic, and humane by European standards.

First Pagan rights & co existing concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paweł_Włodkowic

As early as the beginning of the 15th century, along with Stanisław of Skarbimierz, Włodkowic strongly supported the idea of conciliarism and pioneered the notion of peaceful coexistence among nations – a forerunner of modern theories of human rights. Throughout his political, diplomatic and university career, Paweł Włodkowic expressed the view that a world guided by the principles of peace and mutual respect among nations was possible and that pagan nations had a right to peace and to possession of their own lands. F


First concept of Just War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanisław_of_Skarbimierz

Stanisław of Skarbimierz, along with Paweł Włodkowic, framed the Polish position, at the Council of Constance, pioneering ideas of modern human rights and international law. Stanisław's sermons "About Just War" (De bellis justis) and "About robbery" (De rapina) gave fundaments to medieval theory of just war. The sermons justified position of Kingdom of Poland toward a war with Teutonic Knights. Stanisław died at Kraków.[

First concept of leaders being accountable to the law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawrzyniec_Grzymała_Goślicki

In this book Goślicki shows the ideal statesman who is well versed in the humanities as well as in economy, politics, and law. He argued that law is above the ruler, who must respect it, and that it is illegitimate to rule over a people against its will. He equated godliness with reason, and reason with law.[1] Many of the book's ideas comprised the foundations of Polish Nobles' Democracy (1505–1795) and were based on 14th-century writings by Stanisław of Skarbimierz. The book was not translated into Polish for 400 years.[1]


Unprecedented rights for Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Kalisz

The General Charter of Jewish Liberties known as the Statute of Kalisz, and as the Kalisz Privilege, was issued by the Duke of Greater Poland Boleslaus the Pious on September 8, 1264 in Kalisz.

The statute granted Jews unprecedented legal rights in Europe, including exclusive jurisdiction over Jewish matters to Jewish courts, and established a separate tribunal for other criminal matters involving Christians and Jews. The statute was ratified by subsequent Polish Kings: Casimir III in 1334, Casimir IV in 1453, and Sigismund I in 1539.



First modern Freedom of Religion movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Confederation

e Warsaw Confederation, signed on 28 January 1573 by the Polish national assembly (sejm konwokacyjny) in Warsaw, was one of the first European acts granting religious freedoms. It was an important development in the history of Poland and of Lithuania that extended religious tolerance to nobility and free persons within the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth[1] and is considered the formal beginning of religious freedom in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Although it did not prevent all conflict based on religion, it did make the Commonwealth a much safer and more tolerant place than most of contemporaneous Europe, especially during the subsequent Thirty Years' War.[2]

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Religious tolerance in Poland had had a long tradition (e.g. Statute of Kalisz) and had been de facto policy in the reign of the recently deceased King Sigismund II. However, the articles signed by the Confederation gave official sanction to earlier custom. In that sense, they may be considered either the beginning or the peak of Polish tolerance.

Following the childless death of the last king of the Jagiellonian dynasty, Polish and Lithuanian nobles (szlachta) gathered at Warsaw to prevent any separatists from acting and to maintain the existing legal order. For that the citizens had to unconditionally abide the decisions made by the body; and the confederation was a potent declaration that the two former states are still closely linked.

In January the nobles signed a document in which representatives of all the major religions pledged each other mutual support and tolerance. A new political system was arising, aided by the confederation which contributed to its stability. Religious tolerance was an important factor in a multiethnic and multi-religious state, as the territories of the Commonwealth were inhabited by many generations of people from different ethnic backgrounds (Poles, Lithuanians, Ruthenian, Germans and Jews) and of different denominations (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Jewish and even Muslim). "This country became what Cardinal Hozjusz called “a place of shelter for heretics”. It was a place where the most radical religious sects, trying to escape persecution in other countries of the Christian world, sought refuge.[3]



First European Enlightened Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_3_May_1791

The Constitution of 3 May 1791[1][2] (Polish: Ustawa Rządowa, "Governance Act"), was a constitution adopted by the Great Sejm ("Four-Year Sejm", meeting in 1788–92) for the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, a dual monarchy comprising the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The Constitution was designed to correct the Commonwealth's political flaws and had been preceded by a period of agitation for—and gradual introduction of—reforms, beginning with the Convocation Sejm of 1764 and the consequent election that year of Stanisław August Poniatowski as the Commonwealth's last king.

The Constitution sought to implement a more effective constitutional monarchy, introduced political equality between townspeople and nobility, and placed the peasants under the protection of the government, mitigating the worst abuses of serfdom. It banned pernicious parliamentary institutions such as the liberum veto, which had put the Sejm at the mercy of any single deputy, who could veto and thus undo all the legislation that had been adopted by that Sejm. The Commonwealth's neighbours reacted with hostility to the adoption of the Constitution. King Frederick William II broke Prussia's alliance with the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and joined with Catherine the Great's Imperial Russia and the Targowica Confederation of anti-reform Polish magnates to defeat the Commonwealth in the Polish–Russian War of 1792.

The 1791 Constitution was in force for less than 19 months.[3][4] It was declared null and void by the Grodno Sejm that met in 1793,[1][4] though the Sejm's legal power to do so was questionable.[4] The Second and Third Partitions of Poland (1793, 1795) ultimately ended Poland's sovereign existence until the close of World War I in 1918. Over that 123-year period, the 1791 Constitution helped keep alive Polish aspirations for the eventual restoration of the country's sovereignty. In the words of two of its principal authors, Ignacy Potocki and Hugo Kołłątaj, the 1791 Constitution was "the last will and testament of the expiring Homeland."[a]


Poles saved the ONLY remaining original European forest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Białowieża_Forest

The entire area of northeastern Europe was originally covered by ancient woodland similar to that of the Białowieża Forest. Until about the 14th century, travel through the woodland was limited to river routes; roads and bridges appeared much later. Limited hunting rights were granted throughout the forest in the 14th century. In the 15th century the forest became a property of king Władysław II Jagiełło. A wooden manor in Białowieża became his refuge during a plague pandemic in 1426.[citation needed] The first recorded piece of legislation on the protection of the forest dates to 1538, when a document issued by Sigismund I instituted the death penalty for poaching a bison.[16] The King also built a new wooden hunting manor in a village of Białowieża, which became the namesake for the whole complex. Since Białowieża means the "white tower", the corresponding Puszcza Białowieska translates as the "forest of the white tower". The Tower of Kamyenyets on the Belarusian side, built of red brick, is also referred to as the White Tower (Belaya Vezha) even though it was never white, perhaps taking the name from the pushcha.[17]

The forest was declared a hunting reserve in 1541 to protect bison. In 1557, the forest charter was issued, under which a special board was established to examine forest usage. In 1639, King Vladislaus IV issued the "Białowieża royal forest decree" (Ordynacja Puszczy J.K. Mości leśnictwa Białowieskiego). The document freed all peasants living in the forest in exchange for their service as osocznicy, or royal foresters. They were also freed of taxes in exchange for taking care of the forest. The forest was divided onto 12 triangular areas (straże) with a centre in Białowieża.


Poles Saved the European Bison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_bison

European bison survived in a few natural forests in Europe, but their numbers dwindled. In the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, European bison in the Białowieża Forest were legally the property of the Grand Dukes of Lithuania until the third partition of Poland. Wild European bison herds also existed in the forest until the mid-17th century. Polish kings took measures to protect the bison. King Sigismund II Augustus instituted the death penalty for poaching a European bison in Białowieża in the mid-16th century. In the early 19th century, after the partitions of the Polish Commonwealth the Russian tsars retained old Lithuanian laws protecting the European bison herd in Białowieża. Despite these measures and others, the European bison population continued to decline over the following century, with only Białowieża and Northern Caucasus populations surviving into the 20th century.[38][39] The last European bison in Transylvania died in 1790.[40]


Highest Righteous Among the Nations in Europe dedicated to saving Holocaust victim Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Righteous_Among_the_Nations

Poles warned the World about the Holocaust.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karski's_reports
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilecki's_Report
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raczyński's_Note


First ever ministry of education by Poland.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Poland

Polish Ministry of Education established by King Stanisław August Poniatowski in 1773 was the first ministry of education in the world,[


Saved the Irish in the Potato famine.

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/paul-strzelecki-irish-famine
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Polish explorer who saved over 200,000 during Irish Famine remembered in new exhibit


https://www.historytoday.com/archive/contrarian/belgiums-heart-darkness

Polish writer Jozef Conrad brought the Belgian Congo genocide to the World's attention.


The most famous account of Leopold’s Congo is Joseph Conrad’s novel Heart of Darkness (1899). With its grisly, bloody imagery, one might imagine that Conrad exaggerated the awfulness of the regime


Polish Jew Raphael Lemkin formulated modern genocide terms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Lemkin

Raphael Lemkin (Polish: Rafał Lemkin; 24 June 1900 – 28 August 1959) was a lawyer of Polish-Jewish descent who is best known for coining the word genocide and initiating the Genocide Convention. Lemkin coined the word genocide in 1943 or 1944 from genos (Greek for family, tribe, or race) and -cide (Latin for killing).[1][2][3][4]


Polish philosophers like Andrzej Wiszowaty,Stanisław Staszic,Cieszkowski, Abramowski.

https://culture.pl/en/article/10-polish-philosophers-who-changed-the-way-we-think

In the end, Wiszowaty claimed that the most important meaning of the Bible lies in its ethical teaching, which concentrated on human dignity. This led the Brethren to create a radically egalitarian society – for example, they believed that a husband and wife should form a partnership in which there would be no domination. They also openly opposed the pervasive serfdom system of their day, with many of them liberating their peasants and living with them on equal terms.


He discovered that history was ruled by unchanging laws and mechanisms and that at its centre was human reason, which ruled over human tendency towards egoism and conflicts and inclined them to create an order of truth in the form of co-operating groups. He considered constitutional monarchy to be the greatest embodiment of this order and believed that human history will ultimately lead to the establishment of a specific goal – a world order in the form of an association of nations that would be called… the European Union!

Cieszkowski’s influence is enormous. Without the Polish philosopher, Karl Marx would not have developed his idea of alienation and would not have called for action and consciousness to unite in revolutionary praxis. Cieszkowski is also often considered the creator of the philosophy of action and his work largely shaped not only Polish but also Russian philosophy – Alexander Herzen openly admitted that he borrowed numerous ideas from the Polish thinker.

His life and work was predominantly guided by his idea of a ‘co-operative republic’ – in his view, the state should only defend its citizens from external enemies and guarantee their right to form associations and co-operatives that should be in charge of the economy, education, the social order and other public interests.

This idea, however, was not libertarian, as Abramowski valued the social dimension of human life much more highly than any notions of personal autonomy. Additionally, he believed that all people were psychologically inclined towards solidarity and brotherhood and this inclination should help them in carrying out a ‘moral revolution’ based on a Abramowski’s idea of a Kantian free person structuring their life in accordance with an ethical ideal. To put it most accurately, his proposal was unmistakably socialist, but contrary to many socialist thinkers he believed that real change cannot be enforced by political decisions,


Polish equality & rights Philosopher Modzrewski.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrzej_Frycz_Modrzewski

He supported Irenicism (the importance of unity) and the democratic and ecumenical element in the Church. He became an official at the court of Sigismund II Augustus in 1547. Since he was leaning strongly towards the reformist circles (especially Calvinian and Arian/Polish brethren), he became in danger of being accused of heresy and was ultimately stripped of his ecclesiastical titles and offices. The king, however, issued a letter of protection for him. In 1553 he retired to his native Wolbórz.

Modrzewski debuted as a writer in 1543 with the work called Lascius, sive de poena homicidii (On The Penalty for Manslaughter; or Łaski, czyli O karze za mężobójstwo in Polish). In it, Modrzewski criticized the inequality prescribed by the law for different social classes: for example, while the penalty for killing a nobleman ranged from 120 grzywna – through life imprisonment – to death, the penalty for killing a peasant was only 10 grzywna.[1] Yet it was On the Improvement of the Commonwealth (De Republica emendanda) that brought him eternal and international fame. In it, he advocated a strong monarchy that would protect the rights of all citizens. He postulated equality of all before the law, and criticized the 1565 ban on land-owning by non-nobles.

Granted, but even the Polish had what we would today call Fascism or Authoritarianism during the Middle Ages and were involved in unnecessary wars, such as the Crusades.
 
Granted, but even the Polish had what we would today call Fascism or Authoritarianism during the Middle Ages and were involved in unnecessary wars, such as the Crusades.

Polish involvement in the Crusades was minimal compared to Germans.

Germans caused for the extinction of Old Prussia, and Old Livonians.

I highly doubt if Poland was involved in the Northern Crusade as much as Germans, that these people would've gone extinct.

The proof is in the Polish empire encompassed much of Ukraine & Belarus for many centuries, and these people still exist, as had Jews, Tatars, Armenians.



Germans also helped Turks take over the Greek Byzantine in the 4th Crusade.
Although, the attackers were not limited to Germans, Italians, and French also played a big role, and nor were the victims limited to the Byzantines, but also Hungarians, and Croatians were victimized.
 
Polish involvement in the Crusades was minimal compared to Germans.

Well yeah, because there were way more Germans than Poles. That's also why the Irish weren't involved in huge wars nearly as much as the Germans or French. The Irish are a comparatively smaller ethnic group. Especially back then.
And also, the Germans had the Holy Roman Empire, which was the most powerful country at the time of the Crusades. So of course they're going to be at the front line for the Catholic Church.

Germans caused for the extinction of Old Prussia, and Old Livonians.

I highly doubt if Poland was involved in the Northern Crusade as much as Germans, that these people would've gone extinct.

I think it's a shame whenever we lose an ethnic group, but it's worth stating that the Old Prussians weren't killed. They were taught German, intermarried with the Prussians, and assimilated to Prussian culture.
And the Polish also attempted to conquer the Old Prussians, they just failed to do so.
 
Well yeah, because there were way more Germans than Poles. That's also why the Irish weren't involved in huge wars nearly as much as the Germans or French. The Irish are a comparatively smaller ethnic group. Especially back then.
And also, the Germans had the Holy Roman Empire, which was the most powerful country at the time of the Crusades. So of course they're going to be at the front line for the Catholic Church.



I think it's a shame whenever we lose an ethnic group, but it's worth stating that the Old Prussians weren't killed. They were taught German, intermarried with the Prussians, and assimilated to Prussian culture.
And the Polish also attempted to conquer the Old Prussians, they just failed to do so.

There were less Poles for sure than Germans.

But, Poles were just as powerful.

Even though the Holy Roman Empire in 1000 had over 10 million people, and Poland over 1 million people.

In the 1002 -1018 German - Polish War, Germans also had help from Italian Venetians & Czech Bohemians & lost to the Poles in the Peace of Bautzen in 1018.

Poles also crushed Germans Teutons in the Battle of Grunwald in 1410, even killing & capturing many leaders.

Eventually leading to the Prussian Homage, where Germans paid tribute to Polish Kings.
 
There were less Poles for sure than Germans.

But, Poles were just as powerful.

Even though the Holy Roman Empire in 1000 had over 10 million people, and Poland over 1 million people.

In the 1002 -1018 German - Polish War, Germans also had help from Italian Venetians & Czech Bohemians & lost to the Poles in the Peace of Bautzen in 1018.

Poles also crushed Germans Teutons in the Battle of Grunwald in 1410, even killing & capturing many leaders.

Eventually leading to the Prussian Homage, where Germans paid tribute to Polish Kings.

I don't know if there was actually a loser in that war. The war essentially ended in an alliance when Bolesław married into the Ekkehardiner dynasty, which expanded the power of both the Holy Roman Empire and Poland. And both the Germans and the Polish got extra territories, so it's not like either side walked away with less.

But the point is, the Polish were also imperialist and also tried to conquer the Old Prussians. The only reason they didn't is because they lost.
 
I don't know if there was actually a loser in that war. The war essentially ended in an alliance when Bolesław married into the Ekkehardiner dynasty, which expanded the power of both the Holy Roman Empire and Poland. And both the Germans and the Polish got extra territories, so it's not like either side walked away with less.

But the point is, the Polish were also imperialist and also tried to conquer the Old Prussians. The only reason they didn't is because they lost.

Definitely more of a Polish win, than a German one.

Besides, with 10 more people, and Venetians, and Bohemians on their side, they probably had 12 times more people, and still couldn't take out much smaller Poland?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Polish_War_(1002–18)

The German–Polish War which took place from 1002 to 1018 consisted of a series of struggles between the Ottonian king Henry II of Germany (Holy Roman Emperor from 1014) and the Polish Piast ruler Bolesław I the Brave. The locus of conflict was the control of Lusatia, Upper Lusatia, as well as Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia.[1] The fighting ended with the Peace of Bautzen in 1018, which left Lusatia and Upper Lusatia as a fief to Poland, and Bohemia became a duchy in the Holy Roman Empire
 
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Definitely more of a Polish win, than a German one.

Besides, with 10 more people, and Venetians, and Bohemians on their side, they probably had 12 times more people, and still couldn't take out much smaller Poland?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Polish_War_(1002–18)

The German–Polish War which took place from 1002 to 1018 consisted of a series of struggles between the Ottonian king Henry II of Germany (Holy Roman Emperor from 1014) and the Polish Piast ruler Bolesław I the Brave. The locus of conflict was the control of Lusatia, Upper Lusatia, as well as Bohemia, Moravia and Slovakia.[1] The fighting ended with the Peace of Bautzen in 1018, which left Lusatia and Upper Lusatia as a fief to Poland, and Bohemia became a duchy in the Holy Roman Empire

Maybe the Polish got slightly more land. I don't know if there's was bigger or smaller than what the Germans got. But either way, neither side lost any land or power.
The reason they didn't take out Poland was probably because they knew there would be more of a benefit in intermarrying with Poland. Why fight to the bitter end with your enemy when you could become friends and lift yourself up?
 
Maybe the Polish got slightly more land. I don't know if there's was bigger or smaller than what the Germans got. But either way, neither side lost any land or power.
The reason they didn't take out Poland was probably because they knew there would be more of a benefit in intermarrying with Poland. Why fight to the bitter end with your enemy when you could become friends and lift yourself up?

The Bohemians helped flush out the Poles of Bohemia.

Besides, according to this, Bohemia had been conquered by both the Holy Roman Germans & Poles at about the same time.

But, the territories Germans seceded to Poles, were actually Germany's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Bohemia

In 1002 Duke Vladivoj was enfeoffed with the Duchy of Bohemia from the hands of King Henry II of Germany. With this act, what had been a fully sovereign duchy became part of the Holy Roman Empire. After Vladivoj died the next year, the Polish duke Bolesław I the Brave invaded Bohemia and Moravia. In 1004, after the Poles were expelled from Bohemia with help from Henry II, Duke Jaromír received the duchy in fief from the king.[7]
 
The Bohemians helped flush out the Poles of Bohemia.

Besides, according to this, Bohemia had been conquered by both the Holy Roman Germans & Poles at about the same time.

But, the territories Germans seceded to Poles, were actually Germany's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Bohemia

In 1002 Duke Vladivoj was enfeoffed with the Duchy of Bohemia from the hands of King Henry II of Germany. With this act, what had been a fully sovereign duchy became part of the Holy Roman Empire. After Vladivoj died the next year, the Polish duke Bolesław I the Brave invaded Bohemia and Moravia. In 1004, after the Poles were expelled from Bohemia with help from Henry II, Duke Jaromír received the duchy in fief from the king.[7]

Yeah, because the HRE thought the land they were getting was more valuable than the land they were giving away, plus with the marriage alliance, they still had access to the resources of the Lusatias.
I guess you can make the argument that Germany both lost and gained something, while Poland only gained something, but I see it as making a compromise that left both Germany and Poland better off than they were before.
Like Sun Tzu said, no country has ever benefited from long periods of war. Better to compromise than win a long war. At least in most cases.
 
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