Despite the Ass-kissing, Stimulus Plan Passes Without a Single Republican Vote

Ok. But to save jobs at all levels, we should implement protectionist measures. It;s not communism. It's not naziism. It's the ideology that made america strong and self sufficient.

That is the rub... you cannot save jobs at all levels. We should instead create an environment where people can be retrained for the jobs that we do best and most efficiently/economically. We should not be trying to force jobs to stay here when we are not the best to do them. The concept of borders when it comes to the economy needs to disappear.
 
An entire industry created by government fiat? It's fucking dumb. sorry. these kinds of irrational bubbles are what got us here.
It would be created by demand, AHZ. While many people aren't on the bandwagon there are certainly enough to create a demand for the product, there are whole cities in places going "green". Either start smelling the coffee or be left irrelevant in the future.

What other production do you see suddenly starting up in the US? Buggy whips?
 
It would be created by demand, AHZ. While many people aren't on the bandwagon there are certainly enough to create a demand for the product, there are whole cities in places going "green". Either start smelling the coffee or be left irrelevant in the future.

Demand propped up by government fiat. It's still irrational.

I choose to leave you irrelevant in your own delusions of efficacy.
 
Do you understand the difference between public and private? Do you know what sort of funds are paying for this bill? Are they public, or private dollars?

Do you comprehend the fact that if we are paying $11k per student per year, that the PUBLIC money is best spent on the BEST schools... whether it is the public or private school does not matter. What matters is where the parents feel their child(ren) will get the best education for that money.

But no... you would rather there be no choice in the matter. Force the kids to go to the public school whether it is the best in the area or not. Fuck the poor kids.. why should they have a better educational opportunity? Must protect the teachers union.... must protect the teachers union... must protect the teachers union...
 
Demand propped up by government fiat. It's still irrational.

I choose to leave you irrelevant in your own delusions of efficacy.
Wherever the demand comes from it is there, and it would benefit us to follow the trend.

Pogs are irrational, but those who were in the front of that curve made money.

While I don't think green technology will save the world it is certainly more responsible to put less into the air we breathe and the water we drink. The net benefit is not "irrational" except to those who maintain the only reason to do this would be global warming. It isn't.

While those who buy to "save the world" might be irrational in your estimation, it is definitely rational to understand that pollution isn't good for you regardless of whether polar bears might not have enough ice.

Also rational to understand that the need for oil on the planet keeps the tender attentions of the world on those in the ME, giving cause to "support Israel because it is a democracy" and to "create stability" by bombing the crap out of people. If we reduce the need for oil, it will be a good thing for all of us. But heck we must maintain the irrational need for oil....

:rolleyes:
 
Wherever the demand comes from it is there, and it would benefit us to follow the trend.

Pogs are irrational, but those who were in the front of that curve made money.

While I don't think green technology will save the world it is certainly more responsible to put less into the air we breathe and the water we drink. The net benefit is not "irrational" except to those who maintain the only reason to do this would be global warming. It isn't.

Protectionism is a better avenue for most americans. I think artificially propped up demand serviced by companies created by insiders who knew what was coming down the legal pipe is less effective, and is only more of the wallstreet bubble system of absurdity and abuse.
 
Do you comprehend the fact that if we are paying $11k per student per year, that the PUBLIC money is best spent on the BEST schools... whether it is the public or private school does not matter. What matters is where the parents feel their child(ren) will get the best education for that money.

But no... you would rather there be no choice in the matter. Force the kids to go to the public school whether it is the best in the area or not. Fuck the poor kids.. why should they have a better educational opportunity? Must protect the teachers union.... must protect the teachers union... must protect the teachers union...


Again, if you want school vouchers put it in a separate bill. This bill is about providing funding for school infrastructure.

I know it's fun to read dishonest op-eds in the Wall Street Journal taking potshots at teacher's unions and to repeat the nonsense uncritically, but please.
 
Do you comprehend the fact that if we are paying $11k per student per year, that the PUBLIC money is best spent on the BEST schools... whether it is the public or private school does not matter. What matters is where the parents feel their child(ren) will get the best education for that money.

But no... you would rather there be no choice in the matter. Force the kids to go to the public school whether it is the best in the area or not. Fuck the poor kids.. why should they have a better educational opportunity? Must protect the teachers union.... must protect the teachers union... must protect the teachers union...

Huh? You are arguing about vouchers in the stimilus bill? Are you crazy?

You think your master Rush Limbaugh is going to tell me to take out the help for women who can't afford birth control, and your'e getting vouchers...in a stimilus bill?

Do you remember who won the election? Seems to me like someone hit you in the head with a rock.

Forget it - you ain't getting vouchers in this bill. Try winning some elections!
 
LMAO.... the same can be said for increasing funding to education on the whole...


Pop quiz: what types of funding are provided "to education" in the bill that passed yesterday?

Edit: Question 2, what funding contains the prohibition on spending on voucher programs?
 
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Protectionism is a better avenue for most americans. I think artificially propped up demand serviced by companies created by insiders who knew what was coming down the legal pipe is less effective, and is only more of the wallstreet bubble system of absurdity and abuse.
One does not exclude the other. One can stay ahead of the curve and practice a bit of "America First".
 
One does not exclude the other. One can stay ahead of the curve and practice a bit of "America First".


And one option is completely stupid and irrational

And another is rarely discussed except in villifying terms

Historically, our government has concerned itself with the welfare of it's workers and adjusted trade terms accordingly. It's only recently that selling out workers has been considered business innovations.
 
And one option is completely stupid and irrational

And another is rarely discussed except in villifying terms

Historically, our government has concerned itself with the welfare of it's workers and adjusted trade terms accordingly. It's only recently that selling out workers has been considered business innovations.
Yeah, refusing to create new production is stupid and irrational.

Getting off the foreign oil teat = good both for economy and national security.
Less pollution = good, for economy and health
Sources of energy not reliant on outside grids = good.

The only thing irrational is, "Why have we waited so long?"

We've spent so much time arguing about whether "global warming" is coming that we lost all perspective and logic. Calling it "irrational" to act responsibly towards our own national interest is not only illogical, it's just plain flat stupid, and rejecting good reasons to do something because you don't like "global warming irrationality" is flat foolish. You again shoot yourself in your face to scratch an itch on your nose.
 
Yeah, refusing to create new production is stupid and irrational.

Getting off the foreign oil teat = good both for economy and national security.
Less pollution = good, for economy and health
Sources of energy not reliant on outside grids = good.

The only thing irrational is, "Why have we waited so long?"

We've spent so much time arguing about whether "global warming" is coming that we lost all perspective and logic. Calling it "irrational" to act responsibly towards our own national interest is not only illogical, it's just plain flat stupid, and rejecting good reasons to do something because you don't like "global warming irrationality" is flat foolish. You again shoot yourself in your face to scratch an itch on your nose.


production based on artificial demand is moronic.

nuke is really the best option for getting off oil. But of course getting off oil is not really the goal. Devastating the economy at large, while wallstreet makes money off their mandated and ineffective green technology is the goal, and a dystopic scenario of epic proportion.

DId you ever work on that plan of specifics to go along with protectionist agenda that you support wholeheartedly?
 
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