Despite liberal lies, premiums are higher, according to study

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http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-...onal-committee


In an Aug. 13 memo the court made public Friday, Kris Wolfe, the Republican National Committee Midwest political director, wrote Lanny Griffith, the committee's Southern political director, and said of the Louisiana campaigning:

"I know this race is really important to you. I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 POolks from the rolls. . . . If it's a close race . . . which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably."

Unseals Document

She said in the memorandum that the program had been approved by Gregory Graves, deputy political director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.The document, called Exhibit 13, was unsealed by U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise when lawyers for the Democratic National Committee said it was needed to question Wolfe





right from the top of the party




this proves its the republicans who are the shit bags

"page not found". Another epic failure by the forums prolific leftist asshat and liar.
 
Who needs an IQ test to see what a complete utter moronic dullard you are? All we have to do is read your incredibly stupid posts and see who is thanking you.

Are you really this stupid, or do you have to work at it. I’m going with the former; now run along you lying asshat; your dullard attempts to spam this thread with your typical clueless off topic nonsense are those of an idiot; and they say one should never argue with idiots, they just try to drag you down to their low level, then beat you with experience.

Do yourself a favor and put me on ignore as you falsely claimed earlier and stop trying to remove all doubt about what a dullard asshat you really are. Have a toke in your double wide with your redneck dipshit roomate Dupe. Thinking is not your forte’.
A retarded coward? Unusual but I do understand how intimidating my intellect can be to an ignorant conservatard such as yourself.
 
Those teabaggers with the fear of college are fucking hillarious


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Across North Carolina, thousands of people have been shocked in recent weeks to find out their health insurance plans will be canceled at the end of the year – and premiums for comparable coverage could increase sharply.

One of them is George Schwab of Charlotte, who pays $228 a month for his family’s $10,000 deductible plan from Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina.

In a Sept. 23 letter, Blue Cross notified him that his current plan doesn’t meet benefit requirements outlined in the Affordable Care Act and suggested a comparable plan for $1,208 a month – $980 more than he now pays.

“I’m 62 and retired,” Schwab said. “This creates a tremendous financial burden for our family.

“The President told the American people numerous times that… ‘If you like your coverage, you can keep it,’” Schwab said. “How can we keep it if it has been eliminated? How can we keep it if the premium has been increased 430 percent in one year?”

Schwab and others who purchase insurance individually, and not through employer-sponsored group plans, are finding that the Affordable Care Act may be unaffordable for their families.

The new law, which rolled out to consumers this week with the opening of the online insurance marketplace, requires most Americans to buy insurance or pay a fine. It also sets minimum standards for health benefits and prohibits insurers from excluding or charging higher premiums for people who have pre-existing medical conditions.

Under the new law, all insurance plans must cover 10 “essential health benefits,” including maternity care and pediatric dental and vision care. Plans must also provide certain preventive services, such as mammograms and colonoscopies for free.

Today, people who buy individual policies often choose plans without maternity coverage, for example, to reduce premiums. That choice is gone, too.

Now maternity is loaded into everybody’s plan.




http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/10/06/4365331/insurance-premium-increases-shock.html#.UlMfuPJWLpc#storylink=cpy
 
Yup teabagger is right, my premium is going up 6 dollars a month on 15,000 a year.
Not sure they would understand percentage increase
 
Yup teabagger is right, my premium is going up 6 dollars a month on 15,000 a year. Not sure they would understand percentage increase

Subsidy?




Said Chris Blount, a Blue Cross agent wth Piedmont Benefits Group in Charlotte, “I think it’s bad that we can’t have as many choices as we’ve had before. You’re having to pay more.”

Under the new law, all insurance plans must cover 10 “essential health benefits,” including maternity care and pediatric dental and vision care.

Plans must also provide services such as mammograms and colonoscopies.

Today, people who buy individual policies often choose plans without maternity coverage, for example, to reduce premiums.

That choice is gone, too.

That means men will generally be paying more than they did before.

Using Blue Cross rates, Blount calculated two examples: The premium for a “middle of the road” plan for a 25-year-old healthy male will increase from $124 per month to $240.

“The president shouldn’t have made promises he couldn’t keep. Consumers are able to keep the insurance they have if their policies were written before, and not changed since, the law went into effect in March 2010. That’s one thing that really bothers me about all of this,” Blount said. “He didn’t just say it once. He said it a lot.”




http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/10/06/4365331/insurance-premium-increases-shock.html#.UlMfuPJWLpc#storylink=cpy
 
Blue Cross spokesman Lew Borman said large premium increases will affect approximately 125,000 North Carolina customers who buy Blue Cross insurance in the individual market.

Some of their policies were canceled because they didn’t meet the new federal standards, he said.

Those who got notices about large increases should go to the insurance exchange and compare plans, Borman said.

In North Carolina, Blue Cross and Coventry Health Care of the Carolinas are offering a total of 51 plans from the least expensive “bronze” model to the most expensive “platinum” plans.

“We have 26 plans on the exchange and an equal number or more off the exchange,” Borman said. “They just need to take a look and do some research about what kind of plan is appropriate.”

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/10/06/4365331/insurance-premium-increases-shock.html#.UlMfuPJWLpc#storylink=cpy

Hard to do if the website isn't working. :palm:
 
the White House and the US Department of Health and Human Services announced that the cost for health insurance that uninsured individuals are required to buy under the Affordable Healthcare Act would average 16 percent less than before here in Pennsylvania.

That comparison, however, was made against what the Congressional Budget Office calculated rates might look like in 2016, not against the actual plans available prior to Oct.1 when enrollment began.

A rough comparison between those earlier 2013 plans and the ACA rates, made by the Manhattan Institute using the HHS data, yielded a different result with statewide premium rates for a 27-year-old male at a 279-percent increase in Nebraska. In this analysis, the average increase in Pennsylvania is 63 percent.

Pennsylvania is divided into nine Rating Areas. Pittsburgh is in Area 4.

Using the HHS rate calculator at http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2013/MarketplacePremiums/datasheet_home.cfm, one can see that in Zone 4, there are four providers offering a total of 41 plans: five Catastrophic, eight Bronze, 13 Silver, 14 Gold and one Platinum. You can plug in your age and find the monthly premium costs for least expensive policy in all categories.

For instance, a 27-year-old will pay monthly premiums of $103.69 for the cheapest Catastrophic plan, $119.19 for Bronze, $133.83 for Silver and $169 for Gold.

For a 40-year-old the costs range from $126.45 for Catastrophic, $145.35 for Bronze, $163.20 for Silver, and $206.09 for Gold.

For a 64-year-old, the monthly cost of the cheapest Catastrophic policy is $296.82, Bronze is $341.19, Silver is $383.10, and Gold is $483.78. If you lived in Area 8, that same Gold policy would cost $715.83 per month.

These policies also have deductibles and co-pays, which generally vary inversely with the level of coverage.

http://www.newpittsburghcourieronline.com/index.php/featured-news/metro/17948-here-s-what-obamacare-will-cost-you

Okay, I got a pay stub for comparison purposes. I have $248.93 out of every paycheck, $497.86/mo. Your chart for Pittsburgh doesn't say so I'm guessing their numbers are monthly, feel free to correct. Pretty clear I'll do better under Obamacare.
 
Teabaggers are stupid
My increase was less than 1 percent
Lowest in decades
As teabaggers are uneducated, they are bringing a butter knife to a gun fight
 
Okay, I got a pay stub for comparison purposes. I have $248.93 out of every paycheck, $497.86/mo. Your chart for Pittsburgh doesn't say so I'm guessing their numbers are monthly, feel free to correct. Pretty clear I'll do better under Obamacare.

Depends.

Women may do better than men, especially old women.

Not as if you have a choice, though, is it?

If your current plan isn't 'creditable' according to Obamacare, you lose it, don't you?
 
Depends.

Women may do better than men, especially old women.

Not as if you have a choice, though, is it?

If your current plan isn't 'creditable' according to Obamacare, you lose it, don't you?

I ran the numbers using every age ending in zero. The higher the age, the higher the premium. The chart didn't ask for gender.
 
I ran the numbers using every age ending in zero. The higher the age, the higher the premium. The chart didn't ask for gender.

Could that be because the Obamacare programs force men (as well as women) to have maternity coverage?

Anyway, you do have to disclose gender when you enroll.

Here's the relevant form:

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A retarded coward? Unusual but I do understand how intimidating my intellect can be to an ignorant conservatard such as yourself.

If you think what you have is intellect, then you truly are a dullard of epic proportions. Now run along and try to impress some third grader with your schoolyard nonsense.
 
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